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LEXX
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posted April 15, 2010 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Posting the following by request from starkiss1.

T-Cross of Death and Rebirth in 2010

This is probably the most difficult configuration of our time. Not since the Great Depression of the 1930's have Saturn, Uranus and Pluto been configured in such a challenging array. It will almost certainly coincide with a global crisis of previously unimagined proportions, most likely involving ecological upheaval bringing about economic collapse. However, the most skillful way to regard such an eventuality may be to see it as a necessary and inevitable consequence of our current trajectory, and quite possibly as the opportunity for a collective, global psycho-spiritual death-rebirth process, which we as a species must undergo in order that we might fulfill all of the prophesies in a way nobody could have foreseen, and be reborn as one. May we all prepare ourselves to act as midwives to that process. It will take great clarity to hold focus when all about us are in despair. http://www.gaiamind.org/aug13-2010.html

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posted April 16, 2010 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Ahhh I overheard a convo today, from someone who wasn't into astrology but going on with the bible, prophesising wars ( a la grand cross) where a fighter will die, and then return, and i thought how funny because later on we'll be having neptune in pisces. i hadn't matched those 2 before. not that i believe so literally, but it's interesting that it has its correlates.

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posted April 16, 2010 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for doing it for me, LEXX

There is another link about Astrological Similarities between 1930s and 2010s.
Part One. http://www.midlifetransits.com/blog/2009/11/11/the-2010s-and-the-1930s -astrological-similarities-part-i/

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posted April 16, 2010 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Astrological Similarities between 1930s and 2010s
Part Two
http://www.midlifetransits.com/blog/2009/11/12/the-2010s-and-the-1930 s-astrological-similarities-part-ii/

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posted April 16, 2010 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
LOVE IT LEXX.

Thanks for posting and your words are spot on, methinks!
Very interesting times...

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posted April 16, 2010 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
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Ahhh I overheard a convo today, from someone who wasn't into astrology but going on with the bible, prophesising wars ( a la grand cross) where a fighter will die, and then return, and i thought how funny because later on we'll be having neptune in pisces. i hadn't matched those 2 before. not that i believe so literally, but it's interesting that it has its correlates.


You think it could mean that the bible is talking about the planets like it was told in zeitgeistmovie ?

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posted April 16, 2010 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Belgz
Here,I believe you can find an answer to your question:
What is going on in the world?

The 2010s and the 1930s: Astrological Similarities Part II

Now let’s take a closer look at the parallels and differences between the astrology of the 1930s and the 2010s.

1929: Wide square between Uranus in Aries and Pluto in Cancer. Saturn enters Capricorn, setting off a wide cardinal T-square. Jupiter and Saturn are in a wide opposition in Gemini and Sagittarius much of the year. Signs of economic trouble are on the horizon, but no one does anything to avert it. In October the stock market crashes, effectively beginning the Great Depression.

2008: Wide mutable T-square with Saturn in Virgo, Uranus in Pisces, and Pluto in Sagittarius. Jupiter in the contraction sign of Capricorn. Signs of recession and economic trouble are all around, but no one does anything notable to avert it. In September, the global financial system makes a strong effort to melt down completely. Almost succeeds. Panicked worldwide measure are taken. World economy starts to contract significantly.

1930: Wide cardinal T-square continues. Jupiter is in Cancer, making 4 outer planets in cardinal signs. Drought begins in middle America farm country. The country is in a deep recession; the money supply contracts significantly, unemployment shoots up, and protectionist measures make things worse. Government tries not to do much; Hoover, following Saturn in Capricorn’s ethic, tries for a balanced budget. Doesn’t work, maybe makes things worse.

2009: Saturn opposes Uranus Virgo to Pisces. Stock market crashes again. Jupiter and Neptune are conjunct in the summer; things seem to get better. Saturn moves into Libra, squares Pluto. Sets up the beginning of what will be our own time’s cardinal T-square. Country is in deep recession. Unemployment shoots up. Government passes stimulus. Individuals, following Pluto in Capricorn’s ethic, worry about budget deficits, protest government growth. Saturn/Uranus opposition puts health care reform in the spotlight. War in Afghanistan deteriorates. Issues of terrorism and workplace violence become strangely mixed when shootings at Ft. Hood are interpreted as both. Economy seems to be recovering.

1931: Saturn in Capricorn opposes Pluto in Cancer and squares Uranus. One of the deadliest natural disasters in human history occurs when as many as 4 million Chinese are killed by floods. Jupiter squares Uranus and is conjunct Pluto. The European banking system collapses. The economy is still in a deep recession and unemployment has reached 16%.

2010: Saturn and Uranus will oppose each other again in April. Another chance for health care to arise as an issue. Or perhaps something else. Uranus will move into Aries in late May, officially creating a repeat of the wide cardinal T-squares of the 30s. Jupiter will track Uranus from Pisces to Aries. Saturn in Libra will oppose both Uranus and Jupiter in July. Jupiter will square Pluto. In August Saturn will square Pluto again. In September, Jupiter will be conjunct Uranus again, this time in Pisces.

An entire summer of rather close aspects, with Jupiter involved. Will another major natural disaster occur? The individual (Aries) and government (Capricorn) will again be in conflict. Saturn in Libra adds the possibility of war. Will the relationship between individuals and government be re-worked again, so that individuals and small groups are the agents of war rather than nations? That’s the current trend. It was when Saturn was in Libra and Pluto was in Capricorn that the American Revolution began. That was part of a pretty significant restructuring of the relationship between governments and individuals. We can expect something significant to happen in our own times.

Jupiter in Aries will be egging things on from the individual’s side. The betting money is still on governments, though. Governments may get more repressive, a la Iran and the opposition protesters. The possibility for sporadic violence is strong. Saturn in Libra also highlights the divisions between various elements of the public, so that internal divisions within nations become more problematic.

1932: Uranus finally makes an exact square with Pluto, actually two, one in April and one in September. Saturn starts to move into Aquarius. As Saturn moves out of the way, the economy starts to improve. The stock market hits bottom and then begins to recover. Unemployment and taxes are both very high. Roosevelt is elected. The violence of Uranus square Pluto makes itself felt. Deadly riots break out in many corners of the world, and authoritarian governments (mostly notably the Nazis) gain traction. In the US, thousands of veterans march on Washington, and President Herbert Hoover turns the Army on them, forcing them out of the city. Strikers are fired up and fired upon.

2011: Jupiter moves back into Aries. Saturn is still in Libra, Uranus in Aries, and Pluto in Capricorn. 4 planets in cardinal signs again. None of the cardinal planets make exact aspects. Will the governments and individuals be paralyzed, unable to take action? Parts of the 1930s were like that. Things were not good, but no one knew what to do.

1933: Uranus and Pluto make two more exact squares. A banking panic in the US causes Roosevelt to temporarily shut the banks. Adolf Hitler officially comes to power in Germany. The economy is both still terrible, with unemployment high, and beginning to recover, partly perhaps as a result of measures Hoover took in 1932. With Saturn out of Capricorn, the worldwide phobia about deficit spending finally gives way and economies willing to spend and to go off the gold standard see benefits.

2012: Uranus and Pluto finally make an exact square, two of them. The first is in June of 2012, the second in September. Saturn finally leaves Libra in October, marking the end of the cardinal T-square. Neptune enters Pisces. 2012 marks the bottom of the cycle and the beginning of the turnaround. The Uranus/Pluto square becoming exact should release some of the pent-up energy. Saturn’s official move out of Libra should reduce tensions toward the end of the year.

It takes until March 2015 for the Uranus/Pluto squares to resolve themselves, but in 2013 Saturn moves into a more harmonious angle with Pluto, easing some of the strain. Still, Uranus and Pluto will square each other 7 times in the coming cycle and that’s a lot of squares. In history, and in astrology, some conflicts take a long time to resolve.



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posted April 16, 2010 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message


That was THE BEST explanation so far. Thankyou starkiss and it all made perfect sense. I'm glad to end this "end of the world" theory in my head. Im happy with those answers

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posted April 16, 2010 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Belgz,

You are welcome! :

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posted April 17, 2010 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Hey cool article, thanks starkiss.

Belgz I dunno why I posted that yesterday I was caught up in the mania

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posted April 17, 2010 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Hee hee hee!
I like this fellow!
But what the heck is it?
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posted April 17, 2010 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

very interesting stuff!

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posted April 17, 2010 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Summersunshine     Edit/Delete Message
The empty leg of this T-Cross is in Cancer. By developing the qualities of it could be possible to allay the situation.

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posted April 17, 2010 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
perhaps that is why i iam feeling so optimistic about the upcoming t-square...because it forms a grand square with my natal uranus (ruler of my chart) which in turn is part of a yod w/saturn to my asc...which trines and sextiles sat in libra and uranus in aries...money is very tight but i am barely fazed. the aspects are pretty wide right now but pluto has already fully squared my uranus and retroed away...and since it is very early the saturn contact has been close "enough" too...

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posted April 17, 2010 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Summershine, such a good point!

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posted April 17, 2010 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Summersunshine     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks!

Everything's gonna be alright.

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