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metalbabe5000
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posted April 16, 2010 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for metalbabe5000     Edit/Delete Message
I have edited this post

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Got Gemini?
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posted April 16, 2010 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
Gotta see the natals lol post em up and block out the personal info if you are worried.

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metalbabe5000
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posted April 16, 2010 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for metalbabe5000     Edit/Delete Message
oh no I cant do that.....i just want people to tell me whos got the upper hand in terms of aspects...i hope I bloody win!!

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posted April 16, 2010 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
GotGem's right.. It's better to post the natals!

:edit: I just saw what you said... Ok well you don't have to post the charts - but honestly it isn't all that risky. You can delete the birth info. :edit:

Based on what you said alone.. I would go with you, because i have a personal aversion to semi-sextiles in romantic relationships. I am as attracted to them as the next person LOL because of personal planet conjunctions (such as the ones I noticed they have)... however there is something sweeter about the Sun2Sun trine. He may be a bit fascinated with her for now.. but long term he'll probably fall in love with you. It's a different feeling. I'm only going on the little I know from your post though.

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raspberri
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posted April 16, 2010 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
I think we need to see the charts because closer aspects have more weight.

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Lonake
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posted April 17, 2010 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
ooohh hard to say.
but her sun/venus conj his mars.
you have some competition here, girl!
post the charts.
or tell me his natal mars house/aspects.

but you win on the venus front.
loud and clear.

what qualities are the mars and venus of all 3 people?

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mintgirl123
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posted April 17, 2010 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message
you win hun

your aspects with him are better

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Lonake
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posted April 17, 2010 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
MetalBabe,
I love the obsessiveness here
You're absolutely insane but it's so hilarious.

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angel100
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posted April 17, 2010 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel100     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, we need more info to help here, a bi wheel for him and you and another for him and her...its the only way....we may spot aspects that you haven't and therefore can be more accurate. I know that he is sexually very attracted to this other girl, vneus conj mars and sun conj mars...hard to ignore really (sorry)....between you and him theres a lot of trines between your personal planets which suggests great compatibility suited to a more long term relationship...we need orbs of these aspects though....at least post the orbs...but if you posted the bi-wheels we could give you a more definitive answer.

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Ami Ann
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posted April 17, 2010 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I am a newbie so I say that up front.
If you really want this guy, I would respect the power of her aspects for pure magnetism.
I think from a magnetic advantage, she has that.
Magnetism and attraction do not last without deeper bonds.
There, you have the advantage,I think.
There are so many people on here who know about love and life.
I would take that wisdom and use it to go forward with this.


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comica23
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posted April 17, 2010 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
The composite aspects between you and him seems to show a nice affinity between you. Trines can be boring as they are too harmonious, but with those few Pluto conjunctions and Mars square Venus DW, things can still be heated. And in the composite, there's Mars/Venus conjunction too, showing that there's indeed potential attraction here. Sometimes, we can find a Mars/Venus conjunction in synastry, which shows a potential attraction, but it might not always really manifest in a relationship, simply coz synastry only show where two people can be compatible, yet this compatibility might not always mean that it would really be translated into attraction in the relationship.

The second case seems to share less affinity, and the Venus/Pluto and Mars/Venus conjunction can provide physical attraction still, but I would still think the first case seems stronger.
But well, how is their composite?

Personally, I would think that the synastry can show where the potential compatibilities are, but the composite can show how the ultimate outcome would be, when a relationship forms. And it's important to remember that compatibility might not always mean happy ending - it just mean that the compatibility is there, for better or worse.


*edited* By the way, we can't really just determine the whole picture with only a few aspects in the composite or synastry. Even with a Mars/Venus conjunction in a composite, the outcome might still mean nothing, if the rest of the aspects shows otherwise.

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Ami Ann
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posted April 17, 2010 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Can I ask a newcomer question here.
I understand how synastry works. The planets have obvious angles to each other.
In composite, you determine the midpoints between planets and THAT is how the relationship will be---right?
If so, why would that be the case?
What is the reasoning behind HOW that would work?
If it is too complicated--no problem. Just ignore me .


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raspberri
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posted April 17, 2010 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
^ Actually the composite isn't based on real time, the Davison chart is so it can be more accurate I guess.

The composite is very accurate too though so I'm not sure.

The composite is the signs meeting halfway and the Davison is when the 'times, dates' meet halfway.

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angel100
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posted April 17, 2010 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel100     Edit/Delete Message
Please metalbabe post the bi-wheels....we can tell you so much more.

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posted April 17, 2010 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
I asked to post the charts cuz I wanna see what the 3 of you are like. Some people with "triney" or "easy" charts don't like squares and vice versa.

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raspberri
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posted April 17, 2010 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
You should at least list the exact aspects you two have with him, then we can judge the attraction factors better.

Is the Venus/Mars exact?

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comica23
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posted April 17, 2010 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
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In composite, you determine the midpoints between planets and THAT is how the relationship will be---right?
If so, why would that be the case?
What is the reasoning behind HOW that would work?

The midpoints between each pair of planets represents the meeting point of their energies. So in other words, it represents how the general energies would become when two people come together.
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Actually the composite isn't based on real time, the Davison chart is so it can be more accurate I guess.

The composite is very accurate too though so I'm not sure.

The composite is the signs meeting halfway and the Davison is when the 'times, dates' meet halfway.



One can say that the davison is based on a real (existing) chart, but if we use the midpoints of time/space, wouldn't it make more sense to use the midpoints of actual existing physical positions between two charts? And besides, wouldn't discrediting a theory based on actual physical midpoints imply that a theory based on time/space would be invalid too, since we are discrediting the theory of midpoints itself?

But well, even thought astrology itself is based on actual positions of planets, its system is actually a "supposed" system, where we are attributing meanings to the positions of the planets without solid scientific proofs to say that it really works. But we are using astrology coz it seems to work, and it's just like composite, davison or any other method, that as long as it works, we could use it to reach a better understanding.

Each method depends on the skills of an astrologer to be as accurate as possible. So some are better with synastry, some are better with composite, while some are better with davison.

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posted April 17, 2010 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
By the way, this is just a curiosity, but it seems that certain aspects found in one chart can sometimes be found in another chart (between composite and davison). X3 Anyone noticed it?

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raspberri
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posted April 17, 2010 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
By planets I meant signs.

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Aya_and_baby
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posted April 19, 2010 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message
Venus conjunct mars in synastry certainly sucks. It's sexual attraction at it's best

Apart from that I'm kind of ethically against doing synastry in a "love triangle". So I'll just say let nature do it's course. Sure, women manipulate men into going out with them, but give men some credit. They really can think for themselves so if you and him are meant to be, you will get together. Regardless of his sexually attractive synastry with another girl.

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posted April 19, 2010 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
I had similar sexually attractive synastry with a semi-sextile Sun Sign man... (Sun conjunct his Mercury, my Venus/NN conjunct his Mars and opposite both our Plutos, his Sun square my Mars)

For me it really meant nothing at the end of the day. Attraction can only take you so far.

I find their relationship toxic - based on those aspects alone. And I think it will run its course and fizzle out (with fireworks - not amicably).

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posted April 19, 2010 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
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venus conjunct mars (AHHHHH this sucks lol)

It really doesn't suck..

This is one aspect you can rely on to cause HUGE friction between them long-term.. If there is nothing happening at Sun-Moon level.

She might feel hassled and treated harshly by him and he may feel she is being overly sensitive.. On the other hand he may also be highly jealous and be under the impression that she is "slutty" whether or not this is the case. Considering his Scorpio Sun (the co-ruler is Mars).. and her Libra Sun (the ruler is Venus)... this will be more emphasized in their synastry.

I'm almost sure.. unless there is more you haven't said (like a Sun-Moon trine or something to help.. Saturn trines?) -- that they will be over within a year, at most - two.

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posted April 20, 2010 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
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This is one aspect you can rely on to cause HUGE friction between them long-term.. If there is nothing happening at Sun-Moon level.

Such a good point.

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