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posted April 24, 2010 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Hey!!!

I thought I'd make our own thread to talk about our Moon sign.

For those who did not read it on the other thread, Staborgi and I both have Moon in Capricorn at 18 degrees.

Just quickly I wanted to tell you that my main relationships were with: Capricorn Moon, Aries Moon and NOW Gemini Moon (which I believe will possibly last a life-time).

I find the Cap Moon-Gemini Moon connection interesting. It is not usually mentioned as a "positive", but apparently it is not uncommon in relationships. I remember MVM (pretty sure it was you!) telling me a few days ago that her parents had these moon signs (her mum Cap - and her dad Gemini).

I have to run at the moment.. but I'll answer your question when I get back on LL.

Meanwhile, if you want to tell me a little about your relationship with the Gemini Moon man - I would really appreciate it!!

PS. My Sun is Aries & your AC is Aries.. so that explains the Aries Moon relationship.

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posted April 24, 2010 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
YES! I totally this Gemini and Capricorn Moons actually could get along really well although like you said, it's not really talked about as easily harmonious energy, and I guess it's not, but to me its quite constructive. We're still VERY good friends actually, one of my best and most unconditionally supportive and loving relationships even though in many ways we're so different. I've read a lot of negative stuff about sesquiquadrates...that I'm going to ignore. Lunarly speaking, we were both SUPER moody, up and down. One of the reasons we were interested in one another is because of this.

Going into our natals though, I feel like the aspects we both have to our Moons kind of informs this. Mine is sextile my Merc and square my Jupiter. His is sextile his Venus and conjunct his Mars, his Mars is also opposite his Saturn. Although the Saturn was too far out of orb to touch his moon, I feel like if the Mars is touching it, you can't ignore the Saturn influence that Mars is dealing with. Anyway my point is that both our Moons natally deal with the rulers of each other's moons and on top of that, other planets that are also prevalent in the other's charts. My Moon is sextile my Mercury (his Moon's ruler) and his is being informed by his Saturn (my Moon ruler) because of the Mars-Saturn opposition it touches. On top of that- my Moon squares my Jupiter and his Jupiter is in his first house, while his Moon is conjunct his Mars and sextile his Venus, and I am an Aries rising with Mars exactly sextiling my MC at the critical degree 0 ,and I have Venus at my MC. So it's really interesting- the planets each of our moons touch on natally, the other has kind of "on display" in his/her chart because of the 1st house and angle connections, particularly the AC and MC. I feel like this is super important in our attraction to each other which was so emotionally understanding and supportive- we met when we were both very confused and depressed and although we have kind of "cold" moons (I don't mean that harshly, I just mean we both tend to look at our emotions from an objective, rational place, which is why I think Gemini and Capricorn Moons do potentially get along and understand each other well, provided other aspects support this) we both just felt so sympathetic to one another and seemed to REALLY understand what the other was going through exactly. Mind you, this was way before we became more involved, it was literally like, the first times we spoke that this was apparent. As the relationship progressed, I found that although we had very different, strong moods at very different times (when I was happy, he was down and vice versa) and different needs for dealing with those moods, each of us is always ready to jump in and do what ever the other needs to get them feeling better. Moreover, we each seem to know very well what in fact the other needs, even if its not what we would need if we were feeling down. Again, I think this is because each of our Moons are natally dealing with energies that the other has well integrated in their personality. Mine touching on Jupiter and Mercury- we talk (Merc) and eat a lot (Jup) when I'm feeling weird, his touching on Venus and that Mars opposite Saturn- I share music and art with him (Venus), we go dancing or running (Mars), and plan what he needs to do from here (even if he doesn't stick to the plan, MAKING the plan seems to help him at the moment).

Since Gemini and Capricorn are 150 degrees away from each other (even if its an out of orb sesquiquadrate, I think the energy is still there since it's the Moon, so important) there's tension, but my experience with tense aspects is that they can create movement and evolution and that's been the case with us. I think the "tense" part is that our moods are very different and the timing is not always in sync, and we do need different things to feel secure and at ease. Sometimes we would make a plan and then one of us would show up totally in the pits about EVERYTHING FOR ALL TIME, and we'd have to stop, go back, and deal with all those feelings before we could go ahead with our plan, but we were and still are completely sympathetic and HAPPY to do that. Also again, I think Gemini and Cap moons see eye to eye in a way in that they deal with emotions rationally and objectively. Also I think mutable/cardinals can work well together because both involve movement and starting new things, which has been paramount to our relationship. We're always pushing the other to go after exactly what they want and this makes it a very inspired relationship.

Anyway, sorry this is so long, kind of writing as I think here! I hope this helped? I'm interested in what you guys have going on natally with your moons? I would not be surprised if you feel so connected and strongly for one another that your natal interactions and needs are being touched on!

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posted April 24, 2010 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
OK I'm inviting myself to the party @ 27 degrees
My p.Sun is @ 0 Aries, and n.Mc @ 25, so I'm in on that too

I have dated Gem Moons in the past and thought it was a really refreshing connection. I didn't feel smothered and really felt like they gave me space to be open and vulnerable. And I was really charmed by how expressive they were in telling me what they were feeling.

The Moons I've dated are, Aries, Libra, Cancer, Capricorn, Taurus, Virgo, Pisces, Gemini.

Guys, what do you think of, or have you had, any Capricorn Venus conj your Moon? What was that like?

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posted April 25, 2010 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message
this is way weird! my moon is also at 18 degrees of Cap?!!

I'm in a rush now but I'll be back later to contribute

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posted April 25, 2010 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel100     Edit/Delete Message
Damn! My moon is 17.25 cap..im a degree or so left out in the cold lol....I had a short liason with a man who had gemini sun, moon and venus...it was awful! He could talk 24/7 with no stopping.....absolutely frightening!! lol

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posted April 25, 2010 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message
Guys which thread is the "other thread" ? I'd like to snoop around

Which houses are your moons in? 10th? My AC is also Aries like staborgi

So far I've mostly had significant experiences with Aries moons, Capricorn moons and Sag moons (friends with couple of Scorpio moons).

A certain Gemini was making advances on me for months (Venus, Mercury, Sun, Chiron in Gemini Moon in Leo) but I found him lacking actual intelligence... and talking just to make sounds.. I suppose some of my frustrations with him (along with not accepting a polite "no" or a blatantly obvious "i'm not into you" ) might've come from major oppositions that contact triggered in synastry.

Venus, Mercury exact opposition Sun
Sun, Chiron opposite my Mercury exact

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posted April 26, 2010 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
oh wow Staborgi - Thank you for that looooooong and insightful reply!

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I feel like this is super important in our attraction to each other which was so emotionally understanding and supportive- we met when we were both very confused and depressed and although we have kind of "cold" moons (I don't mean that harshly, I just mean we both tend to look at our emotions from an objective, rational place, which is why I think Gemini and Capricorn Moons do potentially get along and understand each other well, provided other aspects support this) we both just felt so sympathetic to one another and seemed to REALLY understand what the other was going through exactly. Mind you, this was way before we became more involved, it was literally like, the first times we spoke that this was apparent. As the relationship progressed, I found that although we had very different, strong moods at very different times (when I was happy, he was down and vice versa) and different needs for dealing with those moods, each of us is always ready to jump in and do what ever the other needs to get them feeling better. Moreover, we each seem to know very well what in fact the other needs, even if its not what we would need if we were feeling down.

That's extremely true for us as well! We both analyze our feelings. We THINK things through rather than just feel them.. which is very very similar. Technically air and earth should be a bit different -- one is logical and the other practical.. But I think the similarities outweigh the differences for us. He is also extremely understanding (but he does have a Virgo stellium trine my Moon - so you are right about other aspects coming in to the picture). It's very easy for me to talk to him and express myself and I feel easily understood. We are also really good friends.

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Since Gemini and Capricorn are 150 degrees away from each other (even if its an out of orb sesquiquadrate, I think the energy is still there since it's the Moon, so important) there's tension, but my experience with tense aspects is that they can create movement and evolution and that's been the case with us. I think the "tense" part is that our moods are very different and the timing is not always in sync, and we do need different things to feel secure and at ease. Sometimes we would make a plan and then one of us would show up totally in the pits about EVERYTHING FOR ALL TIME, and we'd have to stop, go back, and deal with all those feelings before we could go ahead with our plan, but we were and still are completely sympathetic and HAPPY to do that.

I think you are right about the sesquiquadrate. The energy can be frustrating at times but we both have the desire to understand the other. We are both open to compromise and curious about the others' point of view -- when differences come up.

Like you said -- completely sympathetic to one another!! Well put Thank you!

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I'm interested in what you guys have going on natally with your moons? I would not be surprised if you feel so connected and strongly for one another that your natal interactions and needs are being touched on!

OK - I had a look:

My Moon is in the 7th house..

-- square my Sun - 6' orb
-- sextile Mercury - 0' orb

His Moon is probably in the 7th house.. (we are not completely sure about his AC)

-- square his Virgo stellium (Venus-Pluto-Uranus)

The only connections I can spot are.. the fact that my Moon is in aspect to Mercury (which may be similar to Gemini Moon at times).. Both of our Moons may be in the 7th house.. and it's likely that his Moon is in aspect to Venus (so that might be similar to a 7th Moon or a Libra Moon)

It doesn't sound like much compared to the aspects you guys have going on. It makes me wonder about his AC now lol

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posted April 26, 2010 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Lonake - You were already invited.. I thought you'd get my ESP memo Miss Pisces!!

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I have dated Gem Moons in the past and thought it was a really refreshing connection. I didn't feel smothered and really felt like they gave me space to be open and vulnerable. And I was really charmed by how expressive they were in telling me what they were feeling.

It really is a NICE connection and an unexpected one.. I don't like my Moon trines as much as Gemini it seems! lol
I love talking to him. I also feel like Cappy can be a bit depressed at times or gloomy... and his Gemini humour snaps me out of that

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Guys, what do you think of, or have you had, any Capricorn Venus conj your Moon? What was that like?

Actually .. no. LOL
I'd love to see what this is like but I have not (to my knowledge) befriended or dated a Cap Venus.

Online however -- Yourself, Jane and DD all have Cap Venus and I really like your style!

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posted April 26, 2010 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Angel and Evander - Cool!!! Two more Moon-Mates.

Angel you're close enough - it's OK! LOL

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I had a short liason with a man who had gemini sun, moon and venus...it was awful! He could talk 24/7 with no stopping.....absolutely frightening!! lol

OMG That's sooo funny.. My guy's Gemini Moon is his only air planet -- but sometimes he is still very chatty.
For some reason I like it!

Evander - I know a few Scorpio Moons -- usually it is a friendship for me as well, but it does have a slightly romantic vibe. Do you get that feeling?

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A certain Gemini was making advances on me for months (Venus, Mercury, Sun, Chiron in Gemini Moon in Leo) but I found him lacking actual intelligence... and talking just to make sounds.. I suppose some of my frustrations with him (along with not accepting a polite "no" or a blatantly obvious "i'm not into you" )

I can honestly say I don't have this problem at all. He is very tactful and respects my feelings. But (other than your synastry aspects) I guess there are positive and negative qualities to each placement.. So what you described could be the down-side of Gem Moon.

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posted April 26, 2010 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
Hey,
I have moon at 18 degree Cap. but the only serious relationship I have/had is with a Gemini Asc. He kept going away and coming back, just a lot of heartbreak and pain.
29 degree Scorp sun and 24 degree Pisc Asc.

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posted April 26, 2010 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I have two friends with Cap moon.
I love my moon(Cancer) BUT it has it's problems,for sure.
The Cap moon may seem hard in a sense cuz it brings the Cap energy to a part of you which should be a warm fuzzy,you could say.
However, I admire very much how the Cap moon can handle life
They can step up to the plate in life situations in a way that I truly admire.
They seem to know just what to do when I would put my foot in it and just regularly screw up.
I have seen it twice very clearly when *I* had no idea how to handle something and the Cap moon handled it like clock work.
My air(3 Gem planets) helps me but NOT in the same practical, unerring way the Cap moon has.
My two Cap moon friends are not "hard" as some people say a Cap moon is.
That seems silly to me by knowing them.
One is a male Libra sun with an Aqua Ascendant.
He is the softest touch for the people he loves.
It takes him time before he trusts. I think THAT is the Cap moon.
However, if you prove worthy of him , he will be there by your side like no other.
My other Cap moon friend is an Aries female.
She is not "hard" in the way people generalize about Cap moons.
She has lots of Pisces which makes her appear Piscean,if you had to guess.
I have seen the Cap moon work in her and it is an asset!
I really think you cannot generalize from any one aspect cuz the chart is so complex
I think it is all about balance.
If someone was ALL Cancer moon, they would be road kill lol.
If someone was ALL Cap moon, they would be hard as ice.
In accupuncture, you balance out the energies in order to heal a person.
I think it is the same thing for the chart.

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posted April 26, 2010 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HerWayofPraying     Edit/Delete Message
Funny, my Moon is at 9* Cap... (18/2=9)

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posted April 26, 2010 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ursa     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting that so many of you have an affinity for gemini moons. My cap moon is at 21 deg. My most beloved friend is a gem moon with venus in cap, I couldn't love her more. Gemini moon in women and gem venus in men are so charming, I love them. Too much gemini is much too chatty for me though, there have to be more grounded placements.

My two great loves were cap moon and scorp moon. I don't know if I could stand scorpio much these days, I don't like the fixed modality in very large doses.

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posted April 26, 2010 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know if I will be able to express this well.
Cap moon has a quality of being able to see the harsher realities of practical life on the earth that perhaps air, water and fire won't face.
I see this in my 2 Cap moon friends.
They can figure out what is actually happening in a real life situation--- the story behind the story.
The word"calculating' sounds bad BUT you need to have access to this ability as you go through life.
Gemini can have pure reason detached from emotion but Cap moon can calculate steps ahead in a purely practical way which is different.


Ami

The best way to express it would be a phrase from the Bible. Be as wise as serpents ,as gentle as doves.
Cap moon is as wise as serpents .

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posted April 28, 2010 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
hi vapor, sorry it took me a while to reply. I think given your Moon sextile to Merc is exact and his moon is in Gemini- that's seems totally like what I was talking about. Especially because sextiles are so easy. No wonder you guys are so sympathetic to one another! Did you look at his moon at all?

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I have a few questions for you Cap mooners:

1) How do you feel about people who are overweight? Honestly speaking, when you see someone who's overweight, do you find it hard not to judge them, to write them off as stupid or lazy? And if you're overweight, are you still critical about other overweight people?

2) How do you feel about homeless people? What's your first visceral reaction when you see a homeless person on the street?

3) How do you react when casually dealing with someone who isn't very physically attractive? Can you overlook that person's appearance or does it really make you uncomfortable and not want to deal with that person at all? Do you tend to "blame" other people for not being physically attractive to you, like saying or thinking things about them like "Why can't she wear some lipstick" or "Doesn't he know that he looks like a slob"? In other words, do you feel other people have some kind of responsibility to be attractive according your standards? And if so, do you yourself live up to those standards?

I ask this because these are the kinds of things I've seen in Cap moons, things that my Pisces moon has trouble dealing with. For example, my mom's Cap moon, but she can be very nasty about other overweight people, even though she's overweight and won't do the things she needs to do to lose weight. That drives me crazy.

Anyhow thanks in advance for your honest answers. I don't mean to be hard on you Cap moons, I'm just trying to understand why Cap moons can be like this.

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Im a gemini moon and I can't really date capricorn mooners unless they have some fire and air, but as friends I love everyone of course.

There is an exception as well, sometimes depending on other factors us gemini moons need earth. Honestly when im floating 50 feet off the floor and behaving / acting on impulse I need earth then and there to say "Hold on Belgin, WTF are you doing?" then I might actually stop and think So I know I love having them in my life and need them more than enjoy their company :P LOL

I also have saturn in first. I appreciate sensible people alot. Capricorn moon seems to have those sensible down to earth qualities more than most.

Also Vapor your built to get along with gemini moon. Your mother has a gemini moon and you have a great relationship with her so therefore you are automatically born compatible with us and we love you back :*

You have an Aries sun and your a great communicator. Your every gemini moons dream...


Oh and I am keeping in mind the capricorn moon/cancer sun I dated this January. He was boring and very sober. But I met a Libra sun with a cappy moon and he was so ...

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posted April 30, 2010 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
LOL Belgz -- I love my momzee I guess knowing her my whole life, you're right!!

The Moon represents the mother as well.. and I have Moon closely sextile Mercury.. so this is part of how I saw my mum growing up: a chatty friend. She is also the most sociable person I know which is awesome because her air draws me out of my shell. And she is very lighthearted in comparison to me. She takes things EASY, she can laugh at the not so pretty side of life -- So can my guy... They help me lighten up lol

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You have an Aries sun and your a great communicator. Your every gemini moons dream...

awwwwwwwwww thanks for that!
I LOVE communicating with Gemmy moons. They're really hilariously funny. Just like you Belgin!

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He was boring and very sober.

lol I think I remember him -- He's the one I didn't like - right? when I saw a pic...
He seemed really cold.


staborgi - hey! Thanks - It's really cool to have this back and forth compatibility. Cap Moon can shut down a bit if the person they are with does not know how to handle their emotions.
I don't know the exact degree of his Moon.. but it is most probably square his Virgo stellium (Venus-Uranus-Pluto).

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Cherle,

I should say in advance that I have a Pisces Mercury-Jupiter-MC, and Neptune in aspect to basically everything lol So it might not be the same for other Cap Moons!
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1) How do you feel about people who are overweight? Honestly speaking, when you see someone who's overweight, do you find it hard not to judge them, to write them off as stupid or lazy? And if you're overweight, are you still critical about other overweight people?

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NO. I never judge overweight people as anything negative. I would like to be a personal fitness instructor though because I enjoy motivating people (but that might be more my Aries side). My main judgment is that being overweight restricts personal freedom. I would like for everyone to feel *free* in their own body.. so part of me wants to wave a magic wand and give them that *feeling* of *energy*, the feeling that they could climb a mountain.
But there is a difference between someone who is a little overweight but *happy* with their weight and someone who is depressed and unhappy about it and having health problems as a result. I would try to help the second type of person, if I can. I think most of it is psychological.. Many people over-eat when they are having problems. Nothing to do with "laziness".

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2) How do you feel about homeless people? What's your first visceral reaction when you see a homeless person on the street?

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Sad. Extremely sad. It really upsets me to think that the person has no roof over their head - that I will have a nice bed to sleep in that night and they will be sleeping on a street somewhere. I feel like picking them up - taking them home so they can shower and have something nice to eat. Finding them a place to stay and a way to maintain themselves.
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3) How do you react when casually dealing with someone who isn't very physically attractive? Can you overlook that person's appearance or does it really make you uncomfortable and not want to deal with that person at all?

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I can overlook anyone's appearance. I always thought Capricorn, much like Scorpio could deal with just about anything. Even if a person had a horrible skin disease or anything that might put someone more squeamish off - It takes a *lot* to put me off. I have my depressed spells sometimes.. and when I am in those spells I look around me and see a funeral ground.. I see myself in a mirror and see a skeleton. Even when I am in a happy mood - I'm still very aware OF the transience of "appearance" over time and how insignificant it is in the scheme of things.
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Do you tend to "blame" other people for not being physically attractive to you, like saying or thinking things about them like "Why can't she wear some lipstick" or "Doesn't he know that he looks like a slob"? In other words, do you feel other people have some kind of responsibility to be attractive according your standards? And if so, do you yourself live up to those standards?

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You mentioned the word "slob".. I think there is a difference between physical attractiveness and neatness or personal hygiene. Hygiene is important for health reasons primarily and neatness is important "socially" - it sends out a particular image and message into the world.

On a personal level I don't care at all. From my perspective everyone can wear what they like. They can even walk around naked. I really don't mind. But I'm aware of the fact that social norms will not be as accepting as I am.

I don't believe people have a responsibility to be presentable though. The reason I don't - is because this is something that only affects *themselves* - and not others. Looking untidy or badly dressed, is something that affects the person because they will not be treated the same way socially. Since it only affects *them* - I feel like it should be their choice. But I would prefer for them to be aware of the outcome of that choice (some people are unaware). For example I know people who have been rejected after job interviews not because of their qualifications or intelligence - but because of the way they presented themselves. Some people are a little naive and they don't realize that they are being judged on *further* criteria, other than their degree and qualifications.


Hope this helped

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