posted May 04, 2010 05:07 PM            

http://khaldea.com/planets/merc_type.shtml

It breaks down Mercury's cycle into four phases, with articles on each phase (look at the bottom of the intro page):

Promethean Retrograde--when Mercury is RX and behind the Sun, moving away from it, in the chart

Promethean Direct--when Mercury is direct and moving back towards the Sun

Epimethean Direct--when Mercury is direct and has moved past the Sun

Epimethean Retrograde--when Mercury RX and begins moving back towards the Sun

What they do not clearly explain, however, is how speed influences the different types of phases.

--Mercury is at it fastest speed in the Promethean Direct phase, when it's catching back up with the Sun, slowly gaining speed each day until it is conjunct the Sun and reaches its max speed as 2 degree 15 minutes a day. This is the most mentally active and outgoing phase, eagerly reaching out for new data and new experiences.

--Once Mercury passes the Sun, its speed starts slowing down as it goes into the Epimethean Direct phase, and people with Merc in this phase often are more goal-oriented and focused, more interested in results than acquiring new data and experiences like those in the Promethean Direct phase.

--When Mercury first goes retro, it is at its slowest phase, the Epimethean Retrograde phase. People with this Merc will be more contemplative and take their time to collect data and think things out. Their thought processes tend to be very internal and private. These are people who like to think before they speak and don't rush to form an opinion.

--When RX Mercury is conjunct the Sun again, it hits its slowest speed at about -42.5 minutes a day and enters the second half of its retrograde cycle, the Promethean Retrograde phase. Here Mercury starts to speed up again, but because it's still in retrograde, it's at its most uncomfortable phase of the cycle. People with Merc in this phase tend to live more by their gut than by their conscious thoughts--it's like their Mercury is flying blind and so they just intuitively "feel" their way through situations. The article says they are also more rebellious in their thinking, perhaps due to Mercury's discomfort with trying to speed up again while still in retrograde. This is the shortest phase of Mercury, so the least common.

posted May 04, 2010 05:23 PM            

It has a travel rate of 1 degree,30 minutes

the average travel rate for Mercury is 59 minutes,14 seconds.

Therefore my Mercury is Epimethean Direct ,and its fast.

as for:
more goal-oriented and focused, more interested in results than acquiring new data and experiences like those in the Promethean Direct phase.

I can be

but

My Mercury has certain aspects as modifiers:

conjunct Heliocentric South Mercury Node with 20 minutes of arc and
conjunct Heliocentric South Node with 1'00 orb
which can be highly active nervous system and very quick

contraparallel Saturn with 38 minutes which can be goal- oriented and focused
the same with sextile Geocentric South Saturn Node

parallel Neptune with 33 minutes of arc can be the opposite of that and be possibility oriented.

the following aspects linked to the transneptunian dwarf planet can pertain to going well beyond what is considered the norm,being nonconformist,and so look a things from other angles which requires going more in depth.

square transneptunian dwarf planet,Makemake with 2'01 orb can be acquiring new data experiences
sextile Geocentric South transneptunian dwarf planet Pluto Node with 3 minutes of arc could be too
biquintile transneptunian dwarf planet Eris with 6 minutes of arc can be too, and can include a creative bent

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted May 04, 2010 05:45 PM            

My point, which myself did not make so clear, is that Mercury is so continually changing speed that this change, depending on where it is in the cycle, influences how we express our Mercurial energy. Mercury has such a short cycle that thinking of its speed as a static number relative to an average is misleading, I think.

Traditionally, it was thought if your Mercury was fast moving relative to the average speed, it was better than if it was slow moving. I think it's more insightful to think of Mercury as either speeding up or slowing down in relation to where in the cycle it's either speeding up or slowing down. If your Mercury is in the Epimethean Direct speed, then yes, it may still be faster than the average speed, but it's still slowing down and that slowing down influences your Mercury differently than if it was in the Promethean Direct phase when it would be speeding up.

posted May 04, 2010 06:05 PM            

I was just making a point that it's not so cut and dry. Things can modify.

Albert Einstein had an Epimethean Direct Mercury

It was fast with a travel rate of 1 degree,57 minutes.

His Mercury conjunct Saturn,and they contraparallel too.

what astrologers didn't know until the 2000's is that he had Mercury conjunct transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Sedna with 17 minutes of arc.

and if they look at his chart from the Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude) perspective,
His Mercury conjunct transneptunian dwarf planet Eris with 9 minutes of arc.

Both Mercury-transneptunian aspects can indicate the highly metaphysically oriented,nonconfirmist,far-reaching thinking of Albert Einstein.
...especially Mercury conjunct Sedna which has the greatest average distance of any object in our solar system,and that is 500 AU (Astrononimical Units).

I read about the Epimethean,Promethean stuff before.

I have his book, AN ASTROLOGY STUDY OF PSYCHOLOGICAL COMPLEXES AND EMOTIONAL PROBLEMS.

It includes the Epimethean,Promethean Mercury stuff.

It's a very good book.

Dane Rhudyar also used the heliocentric planetary nodes too. http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/aoft/aoft_c3_s7_p1.shtml#e_r

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted September 03, 2016 10:48 PM            

MermaidDreamz, your Mercury is also Promethean Direct. It is behind the sun and is moving up towards the sun, making it Promethean Direct.

posted October 21, 2016 11:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I have a Promethean Direct Mercury, and I am quite mentally active (as if being in Aquarius isn't enough). My mental speed is like a rocket ship lol.

MermaidDreamz, your Mercury is also Promethean Direct. It is behind the sun and is moving up towards the sun, making it Promethean Direct.

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