posted May 07, 2010 08:23 PM              

NN also squares my Libra 7th Sun.

I have a constant drive to BE something out in the world. What that something is, well you tell me & then we'll both know

posted May 07, 2010 09:28 PM            

my NN is in gemini in my 6th house. but it is right on the line between my 5th and 6th house. its tightly opposed uranus in sagittarius in the 11th, which would make it conjunct my SN. my NN is also quincunx capricorn venus and trine my aqua sun.

i think it fits quite well. i was raised very religiously (apostolic-pentacostal, speaking in tongues and the whole bit. but it was more conservative than most). i attended church several times a week. and my social circle largely consists of people that i grew up with in church. my great grand father started a large church in my home town and its where i grew up.

in college, i was still very dogmatic and into christianity. but i always had an interest in other religions and ways of expressing spirituality. it was in college that i found myself becoming interested in astrology, but it wasn't until a couple years afterward that i really got into it.

now, i am at the point where i no longer subscribe to any religion. but its a secret. my family doesn't know. they know that i don't go to church, but they don't know why. my family is very religious and attend church regularly. they are heavily involved in different church ministries and even lead some. my aunt is assitant pastor and my uncle is the choir director! but alas, no one knows my big-little secret.

i want to come out of the closet, so to speak; however, i am not prepared to entertain the questioning that would follow. i don't want to hear people say that they are gonna pray for me blah blah blah...

i am borderline resentful to the dogmatism and blatant dismissal of the other ways in which people live their spirituality. i loathe the judgmental way in which they attempt to "save" people. and i often mock the cliched ways that "church people" act. although, i appreciate some of the values that it instilled in me

i think i may identify with it more being in my 5th house as my creativity is a large part of my spirituality. my music talks a lot about my own spirituality but in a very uranian way. its kind of new age with my own twist.

posted May 10, 2010 03:31 PM            

@Kat...
Ha yeah I know who Obie was... your too cute
Interesting Kat...so do you have a preoccupation with justice?..you know the "my survival is dependent of everyone playing fair with me" type mentality....just curious seems like thats what the Libra SN would pull through in my studies of it.
Also what about the Libran energies influence on your relationships.
Have you always had a steady relationship or has it been a unending search for an ideal partner?...thats an issue im rapping up this lifetime, for me my Venus and Mercury fall in my 7th house, conjunct my SN in Pisces....talk about Karmic issues with relationships...
I guess what I am saying is there had to be some point where you learned to love yourself more in this lifetime...pushing from Libra to Aries.

You for sure are a true leader then too Kat. My NN is in the lst house...there is a strong drive in me to not necesarily lead but to do my own thing for sure...and that usually means I end up leading with my Aries Mars and Sun.
But you ARE a leader as well, the innovater, the pioneer. What is your profession? Im curious as it would have to be one where you are a leader. Unless there are other influences that curb this in your chart.

Its funny in my research of Aries NN I learned that they have many gifts from past lives as we all do, but essentially Aries NN people have the gift of being able to see another persons point of view and diplomatically find fairness...like no else...are you like that?

Sorry to be picking you a part but your teaching me alot with your honest answers and openness, so thank you.

You wrote:
" i still tend to do for others first, a very libra trait when you think about it) and often use that aries energy to do just that, which is not REALLY what it's about. but yes, it does come pretty naturally "

That is very understandable as it is said that Aries NN people have spent several past lives supporting others, so I can see where that tendency comes natural to you. Its like you guys were the people behind the scenes like assistants, housewives, secretaries and such. But basically you were the one giving others energy and support.
So basically you gave alot of your lifes prana life after to life, to making others better, bigger, safer, stronger, whatever was required, noble deeds for sure. But it gives you the tools that that situation would give anyone.
Love, reassurance, encouraging and kind words, and the ability to infuse confidence. You were always over there consistently giving others whatever they needed most of the time they didnt even have to ask...probably much as you still do today.
But that gives you an incredibly loving and generous spirit, a natural team player.
And amazing mother no doubt. Thats apparently how it works for souls incarnation with Aries NN, and Libra SN...the pattern clearly is that you lived vicariously through your partner, you know if they succeeded you succeeded....that gives near mastery over the Queen Archtype energy, should you ever chose to explore it. If your not one with it already.
The thing is it wasnt a bad thing because evidently you attacted the kind of partners that cared just as tenderly about you....hence the Libra SN...How does the rest of your chart interact with your SN?
As that will be very telling as to what you experienced in those past life relationships...but you for SURE have many lives like that Kat and the system worked well...but not now right?
Ha..
And you learned that at such a tender age..they say people dont start implementing there NN tendencies til they are 40...so you can see the fast track you are on karmically this incarnation.

Your destiny truly is to get in touch with your own strenth and power of your own frequency.
Have you noticed that everytime you try to rely on a partner to do something for you without you asking them directly it falls through and you end up dissapointed?

posted May 10, 2010 03:39 PM            

Here is a question I want you to answer very honestly:
Do you lack the instinctive ease of family relationships?

But do you see where that gives you a natural stability Cap is ruled by Saturn and your soul has spent many lifetimes learning the lessons he teaches...
So thats not wierd at all for an Aquarian to find they have manifested a life like that...stability = comfort for you..

posted May 12, 2010 05:55 PM            

When I first read this post, I thought for a moment I had already talked about my NN. Ours are similar.

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My NN/Mars/Neptune at 10 Sag in the 4th. Sextile Pluto 9 libra in the 2nd.

posted May 12, 2010 07:22 PM            

I probably also need to learn to be less critical and more accepting and indiscriminate.

I just wonder how all these piscean lessons could happen in a house that's all about the smaller picture (3rd house). Maybe I'm suppose to intellectualize this all? I dunno. The only part of the 2nd house interpretation that would make sense in connection with this is the issues surrounding self worth.

posted May 12, 2010 07:51 PM            

It seem like be good for you being a compassionate counselor. You could even be a psychic counselor.
Maybe you could even a metaphysically based talk show.

Pisces on 3rd house cusp interpretation could give some insights

Pisces
Pisces influences the third house in your Horoscope creating a curiosity in your mind regarding the underlying meanings in the words others speak. You seem profoundly aware of connections and have an innate ability to grasp the complete picture on an intuitive level. This position is associated with strong right brain learning ability, and you may have some difficulty with details even when the concept is clear. You are very private about your ideas, and you confide in only a few. In communicating, you can become over emotional and you may experience problems articulating, especially in your youth. You like to be alone when you are performing any type of mental work. When allowed this solitude, you are very creative and imaginative in your thinking and writing.
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/housecusp-3rd.html

here is Virgo on 9th house cusp:

Virgo
With Virgo influencing the ninth house, pragmatism rules the view on major issues, including religion and philosophy. You are very interested and in tune with foreign affairs and what is going on in the world abroad. Your view of life remains in a practical, cut-and-dried mode, and your thoughts and ideas are as orderly as your office files. Your insistence that what you "know" is absolutely correct can lead to an oppressive, closed-minded attitude on many subjects. This is not altogether unfavorable as you are intellectual in your approach and many of your views are based on careful analytical study and research. You hold to the letter of law, as you interpret the law. There is a tendency to fight change and maintain the status quo.
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/housecusp-9th.html

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted May 12, 2010 11:35 PM            

I've depended way too much on my South Node - I'm too scattered and curious about so many things. I feel so much better when I just get out there and DO something.

All my life I've felt tugs in various directions, but have only made it so far, due to my anxiety disorder (that first started to affect me when I was five). I recently told my Sadge mother, that I was glad she had my Dad has moved us around so much, otherwise I wouldn't have seen the small amount of the world that I have in my lifetime (parts of England, France, various states between Cali and Ohio, and New York State, on the way to and from Niagara Falls). If it hadn't been for the anxiety/agoraphobia, I have no idea what I would have done - there is so much that I want to experience (but I can also be a homebody - I only enjoy so much travelling, and have Mars in the 4th house).

posted May 13, 2010 04:52 AM            

Sabian says: "A Jockey Spurs His Horse, Intent On Outdistancing His Rivals"

I consider my competitive side one of my key characteristics. I have a lot of ambition in me

Now as to the Virgo vs Pisces antics. I consider myself rather rational and I don't enjoy religion, blind faith and oversensitivity

posted May 13, 2010 11:41 AM            

this is close but not really the way it works for me. in fact it is when i feel i NEED assistance enough to ask for it it almost always falls through - often thru no fault of the other person!! for instance my exhusband agreed to help me pay my taxes a couple of years ago. he lives in england - sent me a check which bounced around in my account for a couple of weeks. then replaced it with two smaller ones, which also bounced multiple times!! neither bank would claim responsiblity for the bouncing, but it ended up costing BOTH of us a few hundred dollars in fees despite my bank waiving the first bunch...

so yes, self reliance has been forced on me though it is also my natural instinct...

as far as being a leader, i identify more with pioneer and innovator...and maybe because of my heavy uranian influence in first and fifth houses this has often left me high and dry too far out in front of the crowd, to the point where things i have done have not been accepted by others till i have moved on!!

as far as the SN in libra, i have an obvious affinity for the arts and a tendency (not so pronounced since 40) to tailor my expression to jibe with the "others" in my life...

posted May 13, 2010 11:53 AM            

quote:

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north lunar node in pisces in 3rd house seems like your path involves idealistic,inspirational,spiritual,sensitive,imaginative,and/or compassionate in the areas of communications,sharing information,media.
It seem like be good for you being a compassionate counselor. You could even be a psychic counselor.
Maybe you could even a metaphysically based talk show.

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Aaaaah, that makes sense now! The way it involves sharing information clears it all up for me now....the counseling bit makes alot of sense for me. Its not a huge part of the field I'm going into, but it's a significant part. I don't know why I didn't think of looking at the interps for them on the house cusps, thank you for that, Glaucus.

posted May 18, 2010 10:01 AM            

You wrote:
"My NN is in Aries in the 10th house, conjuct Sun and Venus with a wide conjuction
to Mars and Mercury, trine Moon and trine Saturn.
I really don't know how it works, there is 4 planets in my 10th really a stellium that forms part of a grand trine in fire.
I am a very assertive person, very responsable I am always on the go, also very independent.
I have this book " Cosmic Love " by Jan Spiller one of the thing it says is Aries NN
people usually look happy, they have a smile
on their faces, but inside feel miserable.
Another thing is we tend to have a sense of being stronger than other people, we are also very forgiving and sometimes we take a parental role in our relationships we also want harmony. In my case this is true"

You must first look at where are you are moving from to see where you are going to. I always start with SN, because to me it is like starting at the foundation..We must know what it consist of before we can build the correct structure on top.
Aries NN tend to have preoccupations with justice...if you have this trait...be aware of it. IE: "My survival is dependent on everyone playing fair with me"...anytime you have these kinds of thoughts you probably have noticed or do notice that your on shaky ground...and again there is a trap like in many of the NN for a an ideal committed partnership....you know the "if I find the right person I will feel complete whole deal." Well that feeling can only come from within, it will not be a by product of the relationship no matter how "ideal" the partner.
The reason being is that you are moving from past lives that are "Libra" like, spent supporting others, always behind the scenes. And now you must support yourself. if you support others to much as you will have the tendency to do, you will notice that you are distinguishing your own identity. You must get in touch with the strength and power of your own vibration..and this involves learning who you are...and where you come from....Re-membering....as result everytime you rely on someone directly for help they will not come through....the Universe wants you to rely on yourself and it will answer you in abundance when you learn how to survive by means of your own power.

Does this resonate at all with you?

How do you feel about your identity?
Do you have any sense of who you are?
Consider this story:

posted May 18, 2010 10:17 AM            

Its not quite so simple...just as you are not a "simple" being.
What is it you are curious about exploring....what is not "right" with you life persay?
Do you feel like you are on your life path...or have you strayed as we all do..

posted May 18, 2010 10:55 AM            

"My NN is 17 Aries in my 5th house, sextile Chiron, trine ASC, Saturn, and Moon.
I KNOW that I need to assert myself and be more of a self-starter and be more motivated to ACTION. I have a really hard time doing this and it is hindering progress in every aspect of my life. I also already know that I LOVE creating art..visual, dancing, music, I love animals and I get along with kids. I live for romance, fun, adventure, and creativity. That's the 5th house talking. Thankfully my MARS is there, perhaps helping my Aries NN along but my Mars is in lazy Pisces!

Not sure what the aspects mean..perhaps I can use my personal resources and emotions to help me succeed? Who knows."

Lets examine the aspects:

NN is the 5th house is fun....its all about that creative Leo Energy...you already connect to it strongly I can tell. Consider to that you may work well with Children and can very well learn alot from them..."out of the mouth of babes"
You must of course give full expression to your loves...as it is the pursuing of it in every aspect of your life that you find the clues and reassurances that you are indeed on the right path from dating to friendships, learn to be comfortable as the center of attention...fun fun fun...I love 5th house NNs.

Sextile Chiron lending your the Energy of the Wounded healer in your endeavors to stick to your lifepath...This means that you can use your ability to learn how to work with your North Node Energy to better you life quality and in turn help others who have not seen the importance of doing this.

Trine Ascendant is a very favorable aspect...it gives you the ablity to get along well with others in all aspects of our life...domestic, social , and romantic relationships because it affords you general personal well being...who doesnt get along with someone like that! ha

Trine Saturn teaches you some tough lessons...but they are stabilizing because you learn and grow from them...You have no choice Saturn will keep making you take the test over and over until you finally "learn". But it is a Trine, and to me this lends an ease to the circumtances the lessons are learned in...making them not quite so harsh or unbearable, some may even be pleasant.....a good thing

And the Moon..this goes with out saying...Your able to approach your study of your NN energies much more natually than others...as implementing come natually to how you see yourself...helping you to adapt faster and easier to usually hard to intergrate NN qualities.

posted May 19, 2010 09:26 AM            

This just popped into my head, as I realized how many books I carry around with me, every day. My Dad only reads the newspaper, or the odd magazine (National Geographic - Taurus with Saggie ascendant that he is). He read one book, not long before I was born - Jaws, and another when he ended up in the hospital, not long after I was born (a book about a man who walked across America). I think his NN is in his 6th house.

My Dad's NN ruler is conjunct Mars in Aries, so that may be why he's more interested in doing, than reading (along with that Sadge South Node). The ruler of mine (Jupiter) in the 5th, is squared by Saturn and opposed by Pluto, as well as sextile my Moon/Venus/Sth. Node.

quote:

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My NN is in Sag in the second house. I NEED Taurus energy (2nd house energy) very much.
In a guy, I need to feel Taurus energy even if he is not Taurus, per se.
I crave feeling grounded.
Sag is on the house cusp so I need to be adventurous.
That is my worst trait--fear and wanting to hole up in a safe spot and never move.
So-for me to go forward--I need to ground myself (Taurus) and travel with courage and bravery (Sag).
I want to go to sleep and forget about the whole thing .
Ami
PS Yes---like Spanky--I love SN traits--Gemini. I could go to school forever and study and study.
I love to use my mind to learn new things.

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Ami, I missed this before. I have the same placement, and I know what you mean! I love learning new things, and get frustrated when I can't put into practice, something that I've learned; at the same time, I'm attracted to something new, so the other thing gets left in the dust, after a while (or I end up trying to do too many things at once).

I love to travel, and do other things, but like I mentioned above: the anxiety that I've dealt with for thirty years now, put a real crimp in that. I'd get all excited to do something, only to have a huge panic attack, that left me exhausted and afraid that I was never going to do anything, thanks to that. I read books, spoke with others over the internet - those who could relate - knowing that I needed to push through the discomfort/exhaustion, but it all felt too much to deal with at the time. It was really disheartening (and it still can be).

Ironically, I avoided talk therapy, partially due to being told that it wouldn't help with social anxiety or agoraphobia (hardly anyone was doing well with that, or meds), that CBT was needed, and the two therapists that my sister found, didn't help her. I was also uncomfortable with being put on the spot, and being analyzed. I say it's ironic, because of my Gemini South Node, and the fact that talking usually makes me feel *a lot* better. If I'd been able to find a good therapist, then they could have shown me how messed up my thoughts were (along with my self-esteem). :/ Also, had I gone when I was twenty (when I started to learn about anxiety/panic disorders), I would have received the PTSD diagnosis, a lot sooner, since that is what led to everything else.

posted May 19, 2010 03:22 PM            

Sextile Chiron lending your the Energy of the Wounded healer in your endeavors to stick to your lifepath...This means that you can use your ability to learn how to work with your North Node Energy to better you life quality and in turn help others who have not seen the importance of doing this."

I have North Lunar Node in 5th sextile Chiron too.

It makes sense to me.

mine is a polarity aspect though

I have North Lunar Node in Aquarius in 5th
and South Lunar Node in Leo

astrology-numerology.com signs on 5th and 11th house cusps gave me some good clues about that

Aquarius on 5th house cusp
The Aquarian influence in this house denotes affairs here are unconventional or in some way unusual. Creative outlets may be a way that you express rebellion and nonconformity. Unlikely romances and the possibility of sudden breakups mark this position. You are, nonetheless, cool and detached concerning romance. You're very sociable and enjoy recreational activities shared with the group. You have a general concern for your offspring, but your interest in improving their mind is the main focus. Your children are apt to display a rebellious nature, and they need to be taught discipline at an early age.

Leo on 11th house cusp
Leo is the sign influencing this house, denoting leadership qualities displayed within groups and organizations. The Leo quality associated with the eleventh house suggests a very deep need for friends and associations. In this setting you display your friendliest and most outgoing demeanor. You take pride in your friends and associates, most of whom are socially prestigious. Some may even be rich and famous. The influence of Leo here is not one of dominating friends. You may tend to draw strength from your friends as if they fulfilled a special need in your life. You are always careful to dress in good taste, and you tend to notice what others are wearing as well. You have a very wide circle of friends, most of who have much respect for you.

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.

posted May 19, 2010 07:57 PM            

I had a feeling this would be a good day, and lo and behold, jane shows up!