posted May 13, 2010 07:08 AM         

When I look at the synastry I have with this guy I know, he f ex have Venus and Mars in water. I don't have any personal planets in water, although I have Jupiter and Saturn in Scorpio as I mentioned before.
I know there are a lot of other factors etc, but do you think that me having ascendant and stellium rulers in Scorpio gives me some of the same traits as having personal planets like Venus and Mars in water signs? ie becoming more compatible?

My own Venus is in Sagittarius with ruler Jupiter in Scorpio, and my Mars in Capricorn has its ruler Saturn in Scorpio. Do that make our Venus and Mars'es more compatible?

He has Venus in Pisces, and Mars in Cancer by the way, and the only aspect formed between our Mars and Venuses in our synastry is a Mars to Mars opposition.

posted May 16, 2010 12:54 AM         

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My own Venus is in Sagittarius with ruler Jupiter in Scorpio, and my Mars in Capricorn has its ruler Saturn in Scorpio. Do that make our Venus and Mars'es more compatible?

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posted May 16, 2010 04:10 AM         

My Saggy stellium falls in his 4th house, so he might feel very at home with me. Right now I also noticed something Ive never seen in our synastry before; we have opposite Mc and Ic axis, and down to the degree! His Mc are my Ic and vice versa. What could that mean?
We have trining ascendants.
My ascendant and Mars falls in his 5th house.
He doesnt have a stellium, but 3 of his personal planets fall in my 1th house, and his Ascendant and Mars fall in my 7th house.
My Jupiter aspects to his chart:
square Sun, opposite Moon, square Venus (but comp. signs), trine Mars.

My Saturn aspects to his chart:
trine Sun (incomp signs), trine Venus.

posted May 17, 2010 01:11 AM         

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The elemental placement of the Asc ruler is in particular of such vital importance and has such a power of attunement in the individual's life that one should always regard that element as strongly accented. For example, someone with Libra rising and with Venus in Cancer, but with no other planets in water signs, would be strongly influenced by and would overtly express many of the qualities associated with the water element. In other words, such a person would be forcefully motivated by emotional needs, the urge to express sensitive feelings and affections, and the sympathetic nature of Cancer. This would be true even if the Sun, Moon as well as the Asc, are in air signs.

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An example of the strength of the elemental placement of the Sun sign's ruler can further clarify this method of procedure. [...] However, unless one paid attention to the fact that Aries' ruler Mars is in Pisces (and this is the only planet in a water sign), it would be easy to describe this person as insensitively self-centered in the typical Aries way. The fact that the dispositor of all the Aries planets is in a water sign, however, tempers the expression of the fiery Arian drive and colors the person's self-expression with a sensitivity not usually found in someone with all these planets in Aries (Sun, Moon, Venus, Uranus, Jupiter, Mercury).

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So from this text element of Sun, sun's ruler, asc ruler and moon and asc are the strongest, and if there are many planets constellated in one sign, such as yours, the direct dispositor of that as well (which is something i already saw).

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His Mc are my Ic and vice versa. What could that mean?

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My ascendant and Mars falls in his 5th house., his Ascendant and Mars fall in my 7th house.

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posted May 17, 2010 11:14 AM         

And it definitely holds true for me.
I do not have any personal planets in water signs (only Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus).

But Jupiter, which rules my ASC and is dispositior of my Sun, Mercury, Mars and NN, falls into Pisces (of course Neptune on top of my ASC ties into that, too.

posted May 18, 2010 02:38 AM         

1.Asc Sagittarius = Fire
2.Asc ruler Pisces = Water
3.Sun Sagittarius = Fire
4.Sun's ruler Pisces = Water
5.Moon Aquarius = Air

I was just going by these 5 placements, and when I looked at mine I saw that those who were closest to me despite the type of relationship tended to have most of their 5 in the same or opposite sign to mine.

So for you DD, you have,
Sagittarius x2, Pisces x2, Aquarius

My question is if you work out the same formula for people whose relationship is strong for you, I'm wondering if their signs were either the same or opposite yours across the board, so they would have in their 5:
Gemini/Sagittarius & Pisces/Virgo & Aquarius/Leo
It just would be one of the pair it wouldn't have to be both, but that person would likely have at least one sign from each.

Mine worked out to,
Pisces x2, Sagittarius, Leo, Capricorn,
by way of comparison, someone who I really like even if she weren't my family, which i can't say for most of them, works out to,
Pisces x2, Gemini, Aquarius, Cancer
which matches with all of mine being same or opposite sign.

This is a rough sketch of course but energy-wise I thought it was fairly interesting. I've also noticed a lot of us having Asc ruler in the same sign, people who I've felt 'like minds' with.

an ex of mine,
Aries, Capricorn, Cancer, Taurus x2
he only matches on one strong part of my chart which is my capricorn. and our relationship never really included a strong friendship element at the time (although i thought it did), or of being 'like minds', for example i couldnt match on his taurus/scorpio axis and found him quite possessive.

Although like you mentioned planets at asc and in 1st i would think count a lot toward element emphasis.

posted May 18, 2010 03:48 AM         

I would have 2xSagittarius, 2xScorpio, Leo, Capricorn.

posted May 18, 2010 12:29 PM         

Venus needs to be in a Yin sign (most often Taurus or Capricorn, sometimes Pisces) or in Sag.

But what I noticed as a really strong pattern (equally strong to the ARies/Capricorn one) is that the ASC is usually mutable, very often it is Pisces or Sagittarius (Virgo some times, and Gemini almost never).