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Topic: Sign 2 Sign Aspects
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vapor-lash
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posted May 19, 2010 03:07 AM
 
Howdy Flakes  How important are these, in your opinion? If someone has a 1 degree Taurus Sun... and they meet a person who has a 29 degree Capricorn Sun.. would that feel more like a trine, more like a square --- or like nothing at all? In a relationship.. if one person has an early Cancer AC and she looks "Cancerian" - traditionally feminine big lips, big eyes, nice breasts etc.... and the guy has a very late Cancer Venus 27 degrees... would that still act similar to a conjunction? My thoughts are that - because there are particular traits these people would have in common... and in the second example - she would have a particular appearance that he would find attractive -- the aspect would have to be similar to a conjunction. Please tell me what you think!
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MyVirgoMask
Knowflake Posts: 2469
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posted May 19, 2010 03:19 AM
Hmm. Maybe the closer aspects would be felt more if they were at angles.
I do think that even if signs are not conjunct by degrees then it still 'counts', but I know there are a lot of orb nazis out there 
But it doesnt take away from saying something very basic:
If my Venus is in Cancer and you're a Cancer Moon/Venus, then something in your core is Cancerian, period. That doesn't change. The actual degrees might say whether or not clicks but you know, I have seen plenty of example of otherwise so I am not going to get weird on that. Plus I have seen a couple of Venus/Venus conjunctions in exact degrees backfire so badly, you'd think they didn't have the same social values though they do 'on paper'. Just goes to show that there's definitely more going on that we don't know about. Does that make sense? IP: Logged |
belgz
Knowflake Posts: 1493
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posted May 19, 2010 03:34 AM
I believe that closer orbs only influence TRANSITS not synastry. Say for example there was a transit of uranus conjunct ones moon and the others venus was 20 degrees away the other person would feel the same type of restless uranian energy much later than the other person as opposed to feeling it together and going through it at the same time. I don't believe it effects compatibility at all cause as far as im concerned SAME SIGN = SAME TRAITS Why would orb matter in that instance? I don't think out of sign orbs work. As in say for example that one has venus at 29 leo and I meet someone with moon at 1 degree virgo I dont believe there is going to be that nice venus - moon comaptibility, why? because theyre different signs with different qualities. Though I have seen where ascendants take on traits of the next sign when in the last few degrees of a sign im still unsure on synastry. P.S I hope things are okay with you I haven't seen you on msn lately. xxx IP: Logged |
DD
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posted May 19, 2010 04:15 AM
I think signbackgrounds relate to basic compatibility, while close orbed aspects relate to attraction and "triggering each other".IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
Knowflake Posts: 1369
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posted May 19, 2010 07:43 AM
MVMOrb Nazis
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DD
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posted May 19, 2010 08:57 AM
WEll, I didn`t find the term "orb Nazi" especially funny. But I think that may be because I am German.IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
Knowflake Posts: 1369
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posted May 19, 2010 09:08 AM
Sorry, DD---icon with slumped head and puppy face 
Ami
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Benedict Moon*
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posted May 19, 2010 09:49 AM
quote:
I think signbackgrounds relate to basic compatibility, while close orbed aspects relate to attraction and "triggering each other".
I was thinking the same thing, I just wasn't sure I'd be able to explain it...haha.
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DD
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posted May 19, 2010 09:51 AM
Ami,no need to feel sorry about that. You found the expression funny, and I am sure, it was intended that way. It is just a very raw spot for me with our nation`s history, you know?
But that is just my individual, oversensitive reaction to that word, t hat`s all. IP: Logged |
amowls*
Knowflake Posts: 1170
From: richmond va
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 19, 2010 12:03 PM
There are many expressions of a sign/aspect. If for example you have one person with a 1 degree Taurus Sun and another with a 29 degree Cap Venus, the aspects are still square. The Sun person may exhibit all the traits that the Venus person does not like (ie laziness). Or in your second example, the person "looks like a Cancer" (which is dubious to begin with because I think we've proved over and over that people with their ascs in a certain sign don't look like that sign) with an early Cancer asc and someone has a late Cancer Venus, the Venus person may not be attracted to that individual because of that aspect, however, their Venus is in that person's first house so that could explain the attraction.There are some schools of astrology that don't use signs at all. For them only the aspect counts. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
Knowflake Posts: 2469
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posted May 19, 2010 01:45 PM
Oh jeeez, I am so sorry DD. I totally didn't mean it that way at all. (Inserts foot in mouth ) IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted May 19, 2010 01:49 PM
DD, I respect your feelings about the history more than you can know!!!!! Ami IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
Knowflake Posts: 2469
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posted May 19, 2010 02:18 PM
OK, I just realized that I have the perfect example of what you're talking about, Vapor:
My boyfriend has a Venus Capricorn 29 degrees, and I have a Venus Scorpio 1 degree. They square very closely. They are also our chart rulers (we're both Taurus rising).
In some ways it's difficult to pick apart this aspect alone because he is an Aqua Sun, Mercury, and Jupiter (though it's not a stellium), while I have a Libra stellium.
Anyway - I view him very much as a Venus Capricorn in his social expressions. Very cautious, very reserved at first. Takes a while to warm up to people in social settings. Even as far the love expression goes, he is all Cappy-like. Perhaps it's because his Venus also conjunct my MC? I don't know...but even with the Venuses sq one another it seems as though we have very similar tastes. And I like that initially reserved, thoughtful social quality in a man, with the Capricorn venus traits - it appeals to my Venus very much.
Similarly, my ex husband had Capricorn Venus to my own Venus and it also conjunct my MC...our Venuses didn't square BUT I see them having very similar traits in the way of social graces and expression. On a side note, my draconic Venus is in Capricorn @ 27 degrees. I always wonder if this has even more influence. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
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posted May 20, 2010 12:34 AM
Thanks!! 
MVM - I see that as well. I know a Taurus Moon man right now and I feel his Taurus energy strongly. My Venus loves it even though it is not in aspect to his Moon. I like his emotionally reliable streak.
It makes so much sense really - that you could connect with the person regardless of orbs.
Belgz - I used to think out of sign aspects -work- but I changed my mind. I think you're right, the signs are just too different for the aspect to really play out.
I'm having some problems with my internet connection at home, so usually I'm online at the uni library (but I can't use msn). I'll be back in about a week! You were right about a new man coming in because of something on DC (I forgot what it was)... very strange situation actually. His Mars is exactly conjunct my guy's Mars.. in Scorpio. You're the Solar Arc queen! DD - That's a great way to look at it. Amowls - hmmm I didn't think about the 1st house Venus - good point! IP: Logged |
jane
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posted May 20, 2010 02:29 AM
Hi Vapor. I think once you have some in-orb aspects with someone, you're able to more strongly feel *all* that you have together, including sign to sign (in)compatibilities. About out of sign aspects...I think they can work.  They work, imo, b/c our chart tells a story as a whole. Between 2 people one particular aspect may be out of sign, but the rest of their charts explain why those planets behave like an aspect (that is, how incompatible signs can merge like a cnj and compatible signs can battle like a square, etc.). Take, for example, my Juno that's very late in Cancer. It's often mighty fond of fellas who put their Sun or Mars (in particular) in early Leo. A planet there doesn't form an in-sign major aspect with any other planet in my chart. This out of sign cnj works for me because my Sun and Moon are in fire, so their fiery Sun and Mars give me the excitement and heat my fiery self needs. Meanwhile, that fiery affinity between us gives me the security my Cancer Juno craves. BUT what's also needed is that they have strong earth/water elsewhere in their chart. As long as they have that influence somewhere, that out of sign Juno-Sun/Mars cnj strongly attracts me. IP: Logged |
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