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Topic: Pisces Personal Planets ... True to Their Feelings??
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StelliumH6
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posted May 22, 2010 08:47 AM
 
Him and I's relationship evolved into good friends as I was going through a minor crisis in my life. We have become closer over the last six months. Talk with one another daily, share workday, family, just about everything and anything stories. The fooling around is good too.  He said, "You know how I feel about you." I told him that he has never expressed his true feelings about me. The conversation ended with me crying and he saying that, No, he does not feel more than friendship. He tried to get a hold of me about a half-hour afterward, and asked if I was o-kay. I did not return the contact message. I need time to think. What do you girls and boys think, are Pisces true to their feelings? He has Pisces Sun and Venus in the 9th house, although his Mars is Aries in H11. IP: Logged |
glamgem25
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posted May 22, 2010 11:35 AM
Well pisces being a water sign, I do think their feelings run deep. I would be glad for the honesty of him telling you the truth and not leading you on. Talking everyday can make it seem like it's something more to you but maybe you are just a "great" friend to him? IP: Logged |
la_sexorcisto
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posted May 22, 2010 11:55 AM
The Pisces sun that I dated broke my heart because he was not true to his feelings. First he told me how much I mean to him and how much he likes me and cares and literally the next day all those feelings just shut off.He does have Aquarius Venus & Mars though, so what did i expect? IP: Logged |
Diana
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posted May 22, 2010 04:11 PM
I don't think they even know what their feelings are, to be honest. They fly all over the place. This sign, it seems, likes the thrill of the chase even more than aries.
I like pisces, but I don't think I'd ever date one again. They only seem to want what they don't have: the dream, the fantasy. That has been my observation.
I should say it's seems to be the men that are this way, overwhelmingly.
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The Pisces sun that I dated broke my heart because he was not true to his feelings. First he told me how much I mean to him and how much he likes me and cares and literally the next day all those feelings just shut off.He does have Aquarius Venus & Mars though, so what did i expect?
It was the pisces. Google "pisces men" and you'll see they do this ALL THE TIME to women. Ask Venus De Milo about this or google lindaland: venus de milo.
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GypseeWind
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posted May 22, 2010 06:49 PM
Agreed.I have been talking to one for six months. One day we are "best friends," and another day he refers to me as "The Love of His Life." It's exhausting, so I just had to withdraw some.
I guess he'll figure it out, or he won't. Having said that, I think Pisces dudes really get into the "pining" thing.
I think they enjoy the drama of the lost love, unrequited love, whatever. Seems like when they have it right there, they don't know what to do about it, but when it's gone, then all the feelings come gushing out. Mine has Merc/Aqua, trying to get a straight answer out of him is an excerise in futility.
I've learned to go with the flow. Much easier on the heart.
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StelliumH6
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posted May 22, 2010 06:59 PM
Thanks ladies! I do think his feelings run deep. He will always put others' needs first. One time I asked him, "What makes you happy?" He said that no one ever asked that to him before. He thought about it, then responded with, I guess making other people happy. A real Pisces right there! Although it is apparent he has a hard time with, 'Love you' as I have witnessed various times.Interesting what you said about - THE CHASE. He said that when we were developing as friends, and I would hook up with his good friend that made him jealous. I truly want to continue our wonderful relationship. We have the understanding, communication, fun, attraction. But if I do, I am bound to get hurt with the 'great friend' syndrome.
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hippichick
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posted May 22, 2010 07:14 PM
in my experience pisces men with the aries influence are not true to themsleves.but, also in my 48 years of experience, men are not true to themselves in general. but that is a cynical statement coming from a scorned fish lady. pisces will say what he is feeling in the moment, then the next moment he will be elsewhere, true to our fish nature. really, tho, who can be truely true to themselves? no matter what sign or what gender. takes a very complete individual to be true. IP: Logged |
StelliumH6
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posted May 22, 2010 07:19 PM
Gypsee~ Astrology is so dang amazing! Your best friend sounds like my best bud. Mine also had Mercury Aquarius. My Sun is Aquarius. Together we are talkers.His favorite saying to me is - Go with the flow. Haha I have tried not chatting with him for a day and it was torture. I think I am going to try my hardest to withdraw for a (little) while and see what happens next. Isn't that game playing?? IP: Logged |
StelliumH6
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posted May 22, 2010 07:31 PM
Hippichick ~ I have read many of your topics/replies on LL, and you are an extremely wise woman.I realize you are proud of your strong Pisces influence. Do you have any advice for a 40 year old Neptune virgin? IP: Logged |
StelliumH6
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posted May 22, 2010 08:07 PM
I just read, Venus de Milo, what's your Pisces man story? It was what I needed. Thank-you!IP: Logged |
GypseeWind
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posted May 23, 2010 12:23 AM
Yeah, Stell, that is game playing, but find me a man that doesn't play some sort of game, of ANY sign, and I'll eat my bow and arrow.  Course I could just be jaded along with Hippichick!!!  PS. I learned 'game playing' from Scorpio men, so I come from the HARDCORE school. The Fish Man doesn't compare, even with his Sco Asc. His FB signature is: "You do your thing, and I'll do mine!" How Pisces is that??? The Merc is the only Aqua he's got though. He's got Cap Venus, Cancer Moon, and Leo Mars, so he's kinda all over the place, but he is always, always true to his fish nature! OH, and the pulling back thing works VERY well. When I am not chasing him, he is chasing me. That's just the way it goes.! IP: Logged |
hippichick
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posted May 26, 2010 07:10 PM
To allI was not wanting to come back here, but i did, I was embarrased by my last post and it took "some things" for me to view again... Gypsee, thanks, I you!!! Stell, I am not so proud as I am just wanting to speak up and admit my failures and my faults.... Proud?? hell no!!! Ashamed? maybe.... In reality, tis what we are and that is all we can be is what we are.. (as I am listening to Lennon, "Love" ) blessings, ladies!!! IP: Logged |
mermaid26
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posted May 26, 2010 07:21 PM
I'm going to guess in general you have to keep snagging and reeling in a male fish or he'll swim away. (which translates to the work keeping things going will fall upon you) You ladies are brave and courageous. I don't think I could handle a Pisces male and I'm a Pisces female.IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted May 26, 2010 07:36 PM
I don't understand Pisces men and that's fine. I've only loved one and that was 16 years ago and he broke my heart. But I was admittedly VERY young and I'm not about to hate on the Pisces lol....if you want to find more reasons to trash someone, then astrology will just be one more means to your end. I believe Pisces men are slippery but they need to have an idealized version of you. They need romance and the chase...or the swin, I should say lol
I have a 7th house Neptune so I get it. But the hell if I will worry where I stand with a guy. You're either committed or you're not. Pick or choose. Not making a choice IS a choice, as far as I'm concerned. Some women are able to deal with this kind of elusiveness better than I am, and more power to them. Just don't sacrifice what you want and say 'Oh it's because he's a Pisces.' .... if you didn't know his sun sign, would you still find such behavior acceptable? It doesn't matter what his sun sign is - if he's not giving you what you want or crave, then cut him loose, or learn to play his game and play it better than him IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted May 26, 2010 07:44 PM
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But the hell if I will worry where I stand with a guy. You're either committed or you're not. Pick or choose. Not making a choice IS a choice, as far as I'm concerned. Some women are able to deal with this kind of elusiveness better than I am, and more power to them. Just don't sacrifice what you want and say 'Oh it's because he's a Pisces.' .... if you didn't know his sun sign, would you still find such behavior acceptable? It doesn't matter what his sun sign is - if he's not giving you what you want or crave, then cut him loose, or learn to play his game and play it better than him
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enchantress299
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posted May 26, 2010 07:58 PM
I agree MVM.I have a very close male Pisces friend, and no, I have never wanted to date him. However, because I've never wanted to date him, I've seen how he treats women. He doesn't treat them badly, but if he's really feeling ambivalent about them, he'll simply let them hook themselves. That is to say, they will do all the chasing, and he'll let them chase him until something better comes along. I've always asked him why he does this (leads them on in a sense), and he shrugs and tells me that they're the ones that are putting in all the effort, and who is he to say no? And... What gets me is that HE'S RIGHT! Usually, at some point, he'll tell them that he doesn't want anything more than a friendship or a fling or whatever, and they still chase after him. This boggles my mind, as I am the type to require a man to chase after me.  In any case, I'm sure not all Pisces guys are like this, but I have heard that a lot of them have similar attitudes as he does. Many Pisces don't like being direct because to them, it is confrontational. Or, if they are direct, the other party, for one reason or another doesn't believe them because Pisces are generally so empathic to everyone that the delivery may seem wishy-washy. IP: Logged |
mir
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posted May 26, 2010 08:33 PM
My guy has his Sun in Pisces (which is also his chartruler) in the 9th.
Mars in Gem also in the 11th
Venus/Merc in Aqua.From day one it was clear that he wanted me, totally (I don't accept less). What's our secret that we are very close for almost 5 months now, without any slippery behavior?
It must be ME:
His Venus right on my Mars in Aqua (I'm definitely MARS!) My Sun right on his ascendant His Sun in a very close trine to my Moon in Scorp (hm... some balance)
Do I have to say more?
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hippichick
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posted May 26, 2010 08:42 PM
I might add...I recently adopeted a FIsh Kit...born on 3/4 and the brother of my most recent adoptee... He is the Metro Fish Cat eilte.. reminds me of so, so, many other (fish), men I have had in my life. Beautiful eyes, long, reaching arms (claws), very well groomed, and so, very, very attached to (the past) mommy. He loves me and he waits for me, for endless hours, then he swims and suckles away
t!!!
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teasel
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posted May 26, 2010 08:50 PM
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MyVirgoMask
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posted May 26, 2010 09:13 PM
Teasel, I'd think with your Mars in Pisces you'd know a little more about how to handle the elusiveness...like it's a built-in mechanism for you I might add that most guys (from what I've noticed), once comfy, tend to take for granted somewhat. But the difference between men and boys as far as I'm concerned is that a grown man will know that he's being this way...he'll be able to look at his own behavior and own it, and have the awareness to change it. It can't be all about us doing the work all the time, i.e. 'keeping them on their toes'...who the hell has the energy to do that ALL THE TIME??? Sometimes, okay lol.
But from what I have seen a good guy (in general) will come around and change his stupid behavior once he sees the imbalance.
That game-playing crap can get really old after a while, esp the older you get. I lose patience with it...and I always have even from a young age, I suppose.
No matter how badly a relationship has been going for me, I have never questioned whether I am in a committed one or not after a certain amount of time. Ok, it's happened once. But that was enough. Ohmygawd, I really don't think I can emotionally handle that kind of elusiveness. It can give me a heart attack. I already have an Aries moon and a Mars in the 1st. I don't have the patience for games, and any time I've tried, I swear I felt I was going into cardiac arrest or something!!! IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted May 26, 2010 09:48 PM
It's come naturally to me in the past, but not lately. *edit.I'm going to edit my posts out later on. I'm just annoyed tonight. IP: Logged |
mermaid26
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posted May 26, 2010 09:52 PM
MVM, good points.My Mars in Pisces has just recently gotten the backbone to finally be assertive about stating exactly what I'll put up with...it was a long time coming. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted May 26, 2010 10:17 PM
Teasel, I'm sorry to hear about your situation. I generally don't like Mars in Pisces for men as I've found it to be like extra high maintenance, but in women I've found it really amazingly resilient. Though I guess resilience itself comes with a price, right?Mermaid (and Teasel) do you guys think that Saturn's transit on your Mars changed the way you focus your energy? I remember when Saturn squared my Mars (and Venus) - it made me feel powerless at first, but then after it moved off, I seemed to get some super-duper dose of butt-kicking powers to inflict on whoever crossed me lol. It was like the transit restrained me and then after awhile I unleashed all this 'justice' on whoever I felt was holding me down/keeping me back. IP: Logged |
mir
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posted May 26, 2010 10:49 PM
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Mermaid (and Teasel) do you guys think that Saturn's transit on your Mars changed the way you focus your energy?
For my best friend, who has Mars at 28* pisces, this is absolutely true.
He's going through a very difficult time right now and he even told me about this new focus of energy that he needs to develop. He's very aware that his previous focus was too much full of anger and hate which comes out right now. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted May 27, 2010 02:09 AM
OK, that's interesting, Mir. I'm thinking of a guy I had a very brief (3 months) yet intense involvement with around the time of when Saturn was on his Mars in Pisces (incidentally, it was also on my Sun in the 5th, making me an extra hard-ass in the dating department ).
He's an Aries sun/Venus/Mercury and we recently made nice as friends (well, FB friends lol) after he came to some very similar realizations. He had SO much ANGER as well, but despite all the Aries it came out in occasionally passive-aggressive as well as blatant ways. He once disappeared on me for 3 weeks, and played the slippery fish game - once was all it took. I drop-kicked him to the curb so hard that he bounced, which I don't think he was used to. He took it hard and completely flipped out on me. I think in a sense *I* represented some of that Saturn energy on his Mars, which he was not used to dealing with being on the receiving end of such treatment, which was another reason why he was so damned angry at me, because I refused to take him back even though he proposed marriage (like that's going to make a bad habit go away?). But eventually, recently, he came around to apologize, and admit that his anger levels were warped at the time, and he wasn't sure why he acted like such an ass. He knew that something was going on with his anger and energy levels because he tried almost the same thing with another woman after me and got similar results, and he had also tried to marry HER since she had shut him out (it was almost like an aphrodisiac to him). And I think this has devastated him, though I also think it's put some sense into his head that you just don't do this to people. You don't. It's not acceptable. I don't know if your friend went through anything similar - this is a pretty extreme case - but in any case I think Saturn on the Mars can be very hard, esp for men. It's like they become aware (maybe for the first time?) of their own mortality or something. IP: Logged | |
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