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Lehia2 Knowflake Posts: 44 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 22, 2010 12:04 PM
Ok this was "inspired" by the topic that Belgz just opened. I've been also thinking about this for quite a while..but never really posted anything.Anyway...I've been reading about the Midheaven, and it seems to me that the traditional things it represents are career, public face, etc.. I was wondering if anyone else ever felt that the Midheaven is actually more important than it's been made up to be. I feel extremely identified with the sign it falls in (Aquarius), much more than with my asc (which by the way I don't feel it describes me at all). I don't have anything else in aquarius and I don't have much uranus influence (if any) I don't think that my chart looks like a freedom loving person, however you wouldn't believe how much I love it, and it's the first thing people notice about me: how "free" I am, (also a bit of an airhead) hehe. The only way I feel I "represent" my sun/moon/asc (can/cap/taurus) is when I say I like to be at home, I need a lot of space, and when I get a bit depressed (but that could also be my Moon sq. Saturn) I really don't want to make this post about me, but I'd like to know if anyone else feels as identified by the MC as I do, and what do you think it? Also, I'm also very new to astrology, so I apologize if it sounds very "basic".. also English isnt my first language so sorry for any grammatical/spellings :P IP: Logged |
amowls* Knowflake Posts: 1191 From: richmond va Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2010 12:15 PM
Uranian Astrologers focus a lot on the MC.Anyway, I have a Pisces MC (4 Pisces), I also have Venus in Pisces (29 Pisces). I'm not sure if I really identify with it. Why is everyone so hung up on being "free" all of a sudden? First of all, that word is so ambiguous, freedom can mean so many things. Second of all, I don't think anyone HATES freedom. IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 1050 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted May 22, 2010 12:57 PM
"Why is everyone so hung up on being "free" all of a sudden? First of all, that word is so ambiguous, freedom can mean so many things. Second of all, I don't think anyone HATES freedom."Free and freedom are a better word to use but I think when people ask they mean involuntarily free. People who ask they often want to be in a relationship. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 1401 From: US Registered: Dec 2009
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posted May 22, 2010 01:00 PM
I think freedom is finding out who you are and then being courageous enough to express it. For me, both parts are very hard. The harder one is finding out who I am cuz I find it very painful to look at my bad parts lol. Ami
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evander Knowflake Posts: 163 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2010 01:06 PM
i like the idea of MC being pronounced because I have a swarm of planets around it...We all live more or less withing the frame of rules our society forces upon us. Freedom is on the decline, more and more world is becoming a small place where we can't run from our past and/or mistakes. It;s a shame there isn't really a fresh start anymore I have some Sag and no Aqua. I work hard as hell to be able to earn money and make choices in my life. And I don't consider that any more or less Freedom loving . It's just what it is. I choose constraints and sacrifices now for sake of a happier tomorrow ------------------ my chart : http://i45.tinypic.com/2vnnyx0.jpg IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2010 01:42 PM
Uranian Astrologers and Cosmobiologists focus on the Midheaven as the following:authority and prominence, in particular to the career, the ego-consciousness and spiritual awareness, the aim in life,the brain proper In the Midheaven, all of the energies of the individual are brought together in a certain method. The Midheaven is not only the cusp of the tenth house, but also the point at which the real inner existence and spiritual direction in our lives is found. Cosmobiologists and Uranian Astrologers don't use the houses like we do. Therefore,they don't focus on the Midheaven as the 10th house cusp and as career like Mainstream Astrologers do. Also the Midheaven is not the 10th house cusp in both Equal Sign house system and Whole Sign House system. Midheaven can be conjunct or opposite the Ascendant. It can even be located in the bottom half of the chart. My Midheaven is in Gemini, but I don't really relate to it except for an emphasis on communications I have the following aspects to my Midheaven wide conjunct Saturn - discipline,structure,realism (Saturn is in a Gauquelin sector with it being in the 9th and less than 10 degrees from the Midheaven..in my case, it's less than 7 degrees... and so it's a strongly placed in the chart) oppose Jupiter - expansion,philosophy,optimism trine/sextile Lunar Nodes - connections,associations trine Uranus - unconventional,change,innovation biquintile Sun - ego,self expression,vitality minor planets: conjunct major asteroid Pallas in Right Ascension - creative intelligence,pattern recognition, social politics trine Dwarf planet Pluto in Right Ascension - Transformation,regeneration,elimination,nonconformist,evolutionary intensified lessons,experiences trine Hygeia (big asteroid) - health,hygeine square transneptunian Dwarf planet Haumea - fertility,creativity,regeneration,nonconformist,evolutionary intensified lessons/experiences sextile transneptunian Dwarf planet Eris - diversity,equality,nonconformist,evolutionary intensified lessons/experience sextile centaur Chiron - healing,teaching,nonconformist sextile centaur Asbolus - divination,nonconformist biquintile transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Ixion - second chances, matters dealing with gratitude,nonconformist,evolutionary intensified lessons/experiences parallel asteroid dwarf planet Ceres - nurturing,food Nodes of objects: conjunct/oppose Heliocentric and Geocentric transneptunian dwarf planet Ixion Nodes - collective second chances,matters involving gratitude,nonconformist,evolutionary intensified lessons/experiences oppose Geocentric South Uranus Node - collective unconventional,change,innovation sextile/trine Heliocentric Neptune Nodes - collective inspiration,imagination,compassion ------------------ Raymond
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Unmoved Moderator Posts: 1630 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 22, 2010 02:11 PM
quote: In the Midheaven, all of the energies of the individual are brought together in a certain method. The Midheaven is not only the cusp of the tenth house, but also the point at which the real inner existence and spiritual direction in our lives is found.
Excellent info, Glaucus! I identify with my MC. It is probably because my Moon is exactly conjunct it (MC). ------------------ Blog IP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 1812 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 22, 2010 03:51 PM
Freedom has nothing to do with being in a relationship. It's more of a state of mind. It doesn't equal fidelity or lack thereof, that's loyalty and fidelity. I've always thought the MC was hugely important, especially transits to it. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3871 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2010 05:09 PM
LOL freedom is only in one's head!! haha hilarious. It's a perception. A jailed man could be freer than all of us if his mindset is free. I love it when people perceive themselves as 'free' and then they talk about boundaries and boxes, metaphorically As for MC, it is very important methinks. IP: Logged |
amowls* Knowflake Posts: 1191 From: richmond va Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2010 05:33 PM
quote: A jailed man could be freer than all of us if his mindset is free.
Exactly. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2010 04:23 AM
'I identify with my MC. It is probably because my Moon is exactly conjunct it (MC). " That would seem like a very strong lunar influence, and so Cancerians have nothing on you. The Moon is so very prominent in your chart. It's like your very soul.
so lunar things like emotions,feelings,fluctuations,sensitivity,intuition,nurturing,women,dreams,unconscious would be highly major theme in your life
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with you being born in the Southern Hemisphere, I was wondering if you can relate to Sun in Pisces The tropical zodiac is based on the northern hemisphere seasons, but you were born in the southern hemisphere. Therefore, I do wonder if you can relate to the Sun in Pisces traits.
Some astrologers flip the tropical zodiac signs to accommodate for people born in the southern hemisphere. ------------------ Raymond
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Unmoved Moderator Posts: 1630 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 23, 2010 06:51 AM
I can't say that I identify with Pisces. I am too messy for a Virgo, although I do have some OCD tendencies. I am compassionate most of the times, but I will have to think more of this Pisces thing. I must say though, that my chart describes me pretty well. There aren't many, if any, things that I'd say I don't feel or relate to, when it comes to the placements in my chart. ------------------ Blog
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Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 1401 From: US Registered: Dec 2009
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posted May 23, 2010 08:34 AM
I have Pluto(chart ruler) conjunct MC in Leo. If I am not true to myself I get sick--emotionally and physically. That is how I got sick. When I was younger--I did not compromise my values for anyone. I lost my group of friends because of it but I was ok cuz I knew I had my values and my values made me "me" They were my identity--my anchor. When I lost my way--I gave up that inner sense of compass and inner sense of my own power. I might be wrong cuz I am new to Astrology but I think a strong Pluto like this would not allow me to weenie out of what I believed without exacting a price. Please correct me if I am wrong. I have an awesome regard for Pluto--natal, synastry, transit. Mr Pluto will get his way and not like a gentleman Ami
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staborgi Knowflake Posts: 222 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted May 24, 2010 01:43 AM
I consciously most identify with the planets at my MC- Neptune and my Venus/Uranus conjunction. I am also very aware of my Chiron which is in opposition to my MC. I also have an exact Merc semisquare to my MC and exact sextile of Mars to my MC that I also feel pretty readily, although certainly not as much as the conjunctions and opposition. My NN is also exactly square my MC, not sure what that one means though? Other planetary configurations in my chart seem to be a part of a fabric of myself that I can acknowledge if pointed out but am not necessarily consciously aware of everyday. I also feel like I tend to seek out experiences that are linked to the planets at my MC, so I certainly agree with Glaucus's post on it being the "real inner existence and spiritual direction in our lives." IP: Logged |
jacque Knowflake Posts: 164 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted May 24, 2010 06:18 AM
Hi Raymond, I have MC in Scorpio and Uranus in Scorpio. Could you tell me something this placement?Also I was curious about MC in Synastry: specifically my Pluto conjunct someone's MC my Jupiter conjunct their MC.
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Lehia2 Knowflake Posts: 44 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 24, 2010 10:11 AM
I think a lot of people are taking the word "free" with a way deeper and more philosophical meaning of what I intended to. If I was going to be "deep", then I wouldn't even ask a question regarding REAL freedom as, I think it doesn't exist. What I meant by "free" was: hating a 9 to 5 job, not wanting to be tied down to the point of not wanting to form a family, loving to meet new people, new scenaries, travelling, etc etc...I can't think of a better word that, superficially, describes that, so I chose 'freedom'. My bad. Anyway, I just put that as an example as I thought it'd be easier to make my point. Glaucus, that's awesome information. I'll try to find some more information about Uranian and Cosmobiologist astrology. I knew it existed but I didn't really know what it was about. I was also born in the Southern Hemisphere, so I wonder if that has something to do with it. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 1544 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2010 10:23 AM
Glaucusthat is a superb description! i have my MC in Cancer. Moon located in my 8th taurus. i do enjoy the security,comfort that comes from being with my loved ones,my family. im very sensitive and caring and i tend to protect people.i will love to be a Mom someday. my career aims pass through arts/Fashion but not without a touch of "take care of the clients!" in a very motherly way. IP: Logged |
amowls* Knowflake Posts: 1191 From: richmond va Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2010 10:55 AM
quote: What I meant by "free" was: hating a 9 to 5 job, not wanting to be tied down to the point of not wanting to form a family, loving to meet new people, new scenaries, travelling, etc etc
Hm. I would probably be severely depressed if I worked a 9 to 5. I don't like being scheduled. I also don't really want kids because they tie you down too much. I don't mind marriage, though. This probably has little to do with my MC. Except for the marriage thing, MC ruler is in 7th. IP: Logged | |