posted May 27, 2010 01:41 AM         

In my experience ANY Pluto is really never over...for better or worse. It takes much to pry those two people apart. And even if they are indeed apart then it will hurt like heck...and most likely end up in quiet (or loud) obsession or utter disgust, as ALL Pluto operates in an all or nothing manner.

I had the Conjunction in Scorpio with a double Sag ex and LITERALLY it took me two years to get over him. It was horrible. However other Pluto aspects can do this as well. I have a recent Aqua ex (and trust me you know Pluto is strong when you can get an Aqua with Virgo Moon, and Cap Venus/Rising to admit he doesn't want you to leave him and that he's obsessed with you) and we only have Venus Quintile Pluto...BUT we have a double whammy Sun/Pluto, Mer/Pluto, and Mars Pluto (which includes an Opposition from Mars.)

I'm having a VERY hard time letting go, and to be honest I don't want to. Even now both of us are playing games to even the score with each other (he blocked me on a website we go on because I made my posts private unless you're in my contacts, and he thought I blocked him...obviously I didn't lol). Well he proceeded to block me as well lol. So talk about trying to play a game. And we haven't even talked in like three weeks.

posted May 27, 2010 01:44 AM         

I had an exact sq of Venus/ Pluto with my ex husband (I was Pluto)... relevant to remember here that this is a generational aspect. EVERYONE in his generation will square his Venus, which you might keep in mind. Pluto/Venus is not really all that if you're in the same age range. It's highly overrated imo. Of course I still have problems with that relationship/past marriage. But it's an accumulation of things, not just Pluto alone. It was Saturn, Mars, and the B@stard himself.

We also had an almost exact sun trine. But things sucked. So it had to end. I say this because I don't really understand your question. What do you mean, how do you know if it ends? It ends. One of you ends it since both of you are in the relationship. If he and his ex are not over, it's got less to do with their astro aspects and more to do with maturity level.

PS - post the charts if you like, to get some additional feedback. Just good to keep in mind that the astro stuff will pick up on nuances but won't determine 100% who is meant to be with who, etc., or who's in love.

posted May 27, 2010 09:28 AM         

Her sun trine his merc
Her merc sextile his moon
Her merc trine his saturn
Her merc conjunct his uranus
Her merc trine his jupiter

Her way of communicating and her conversation lit up a lot of his planets?

As for the pluto contacts between them:

Her Sun conjunct his pluto

( I had this with a guy who was obsessed with me for years)..... His pluto on my sun also in libra....

Her pluto is trine his mercury and trine his venus both orbs are just over 3 degrees...to be honest...imo they're not tight enough to warrant much pluto intensity...plus trines are nice and flowing so that energy again wouldn't be as intense as the harsh aspects.

Regardless of their birth times they're moons are square and her mars is opposing his moon....good for sexual chemistry....she has the upper hand here that's for sure. But im doubtfull here because the orbs are not tight on any of there aspects......

As for you and him: Your moon is trine his pluto, Your mars is square his pluto, I would consider that 5 degree orb square between your mars and his pluto quite binding and obsessive.

You two have a lot of tight synastry which him and his ex don't have.

Theres a lot of uranus aspects leaping out there, tight orbs and hard aspects....sexual attraction a go go. lol

posted May 27, 2010 10:13 AM         

Even more amazing is his sun/moon midpoint at 11 cap is conjunct your sun at 12 cap....how nice is that...according to cafeastrology website, they consider hard aspects between the luminaries of one partner and the sun/moon midpoint of the other to hold the heighest weight in synastry analysis.

posted May 27, 2010 10:36 AM         

My sun conjunct his Pluto
My Pluto square his merc
My Pluto opposite his mars
My Pluto square his moon
My Pluto opposite his Chiron
My Venus semisquare his pluto
My asc sextile his Pluto
My Pluto conjunct his Uranus

posted May 27, 2010 02:24 PM         

"I was also curious about anyone who may have experienced Pluto opposite chiron and how it may have manifested in the relationship? Also Pluto opposite mars?"

I have that with a recent ex...oh boy I am trying soooooo hard to get over him. I miss him tons, and I'll admit it sucks big time lol. I'm actually thinking of calling him.

Cappy1277
"She wants all or nothing but he doesn't get it. (venus in aquarius)"

posted May 27, 2010 02:34 PM         

Well, okay, sometimes, but let`s get to the real core of it.
It is exactly as MVM said, so many people of one generation will make that aspect to someone`s Venus. Hardly an individual one.
Interestingly it would be more individual (rare) for the Pluto-person, as Venus moves a lot faster.

Anyway, I DO think that Venus-Pluto can be very significant, if

- in close orb (max. 2 degrees, rather 1,5 degrees)

- part of a closed circuit

- also tightly aspects by a natal planet in the same chart.

Example:
PErson A has Venus square Pluto natally
Person B has Sun square Pluto natally.
A`s Venus and B?s Sun are conjunct and t hus squaring both Pluto`s.

I would take such a case more serious as if there was just an isolated Venus-Pluto trine of 5 degrees.

Does it ever end? Well, does it?
On the outside, yes, probably there can be a "going separate ways".
Does it mean people are separated on the inside, too, meaning, not thinking of each other, not harboring any kind of feelings or even a fondness for memories?
I think it depends on each person individually, and their "relating style" and if they tend to hold on to the past or just move into the future.

posted May 27, 2010 06:41 PM         

him and her

me and him composite