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staborgi
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posted May 28, 2010 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
So I wrote this post because oneruledbymars asked me about my experiences with my own 0 Aries NN and it brought up SOOOOOO many issues for me. The post is really long, sorry, but maybe others can share their experiences with this placement if you have the patience to read through? Even if you don't, if you have this placement natally I would LOVE to hear your experience. Or maybe the more experienced astrologers here can help me figure out where the hell I am going with all this? Again, if you have the patience for my HUGE RAMBLE. Uranus is really setting off my concerns about all this I guess... but my NN placement, as I wrote about, is SO conflicted and confusing but is also really central to my life and consciousness. If anything, I hope it helps you understand your friend a bit more, seeing how I read my own NN in my chart, oneruledbymars!

To answer your question, I've had a hard time understanding my NN, it seems super enigmatic too me given what tends to be the general idea about what the NN represents...when people say anything like, it's your "soul's path" or "spiritual growth" it just feels like something very far away from me that I can't grasp. I've heard it mentioned that people with 0 Aries NN's are very close to their soul's purpose in this lifetime, which I will take these peoples' word for! But I really can't really relate to such terminology. I also have heard the NN is related to friends/associations...I'm not sure where that's come from? If someone reads this and can clarify I would LOVE to know! Anyway, to answer your question, here's my perspective on my 0 Aries NN. Sorry if this gets long but I have an IMPOSSIBLE time trying to isolate anything in my chart...

So I have a very very confused and conflicted time with my nodal issues, I might be a special case and maybe you shouldn't compare your friend to me but here's my situation and then maybe you can see how I've gone about looking at it and look into your friend? Okay, so, while I can't relate to notions of 0 Aries being special in some "soulful" way, I can relate to it being a critical degree, and arguably THE most critical degree in the zodiac since it's its very beginnings, cardinal, etc. Its in my 12th, conjunct my ASC by one degree. Even though I'm an Aries ASC, I think because my NN is conjunct it, I don't quite consciously relate to my Aries ASC. I am VERY Aries ASC though, but I only know this because of what other people tell me and in some spontaneous moments of third eye self observation, I can step back in an interaction with someone else and see just how Aries-like I act. I think this is the nature of the NN though, we're more comfortable with its opposite the SN. So even though I have NO planets in Libra, I feel VERY Libran, to my detriment though. What I just said, the notion that I can only be made aware of myself via interactions with others/what others tell me about myself- SO LIBRA. My SN ruler, Venus, is at my MC conjunct my Uranus. The MC among other things, is ego consciousness to me. This really amplifies things. Not only do I really tend to be inclined toward orienting myself towards others, but its a huge part of how I see myself. It's often to my detriment though, because as much as I tend to think of others and literally orient myself according to their energies, I do not find this satisfying. It's comfortable, but it stirs up a restless tension in me too, I can't describe it as anything but this feeling of like, "I did what I thought was right, so why do I feel dissatisfied?" Again, I cannot stress how big this is in my consciousness, and I think it must be the critical placement of my NN. I think that feeling of comfort but dissatisfaction is also typical of the SN.

One thing I do wonder about, is if your nodal placements are supported by the rest of your chart. My whole chart seems to be almost catered to dealing with my nodal placements. Maybe that's what people mean when they say 0 Aries is close to fulfilling what it "needs" to? So while my mind is totally oriented towards relationships- relationships (talking about romantic ones now) never work out for me! My SN ruler Venus, forms the most tight aspect in my chart, a conjunction at that, to Uranus. They are like 5 seconds apart or something, and again, at my MC and in freakin' Sagittarius. What could be more anti-committed relationships? So this manifests in a lot of ways (love weirdos!) but a huge thing is a stable romantic relationship is just not something I have ever experienced, is a huge part of my consciousness about myself, and is also a really easy pattern for me to uphold despite not being satisfying at all. Whenever someone wants to settle into a stable relationship with me, either I or some outside force (or both!) completely demolishes the whole thing and any possibility of that. I HATE romance and immediately am turned off by people that I sense might like me or be interested in me. Again, this is oddly enough supported elsewhere in my chart- by my Juno at 29 Aquarius (again a critical degree!) and the fact that that Venus/Uranus conjunction happens at my Sun/Moon midpoint. There is other stuff too...I wont post everything but you get the idea...

But that doesn't stop me from constantly thinking about relationships and from making a lot of decisions based on relationships- even crushes! I fall in love SO easily too, although again, as soon as getting close to the person comes up, or commitment/stability- I'm outta there. And yet, its so rare that I do something just because I want to. I barely know what it is to want something in a wholly autonomous manner. But again, this tendency, as easily as it comes to me, is not satisfying.

Here's the thing though- my NN ruler, Mars, is in the 7th house! Interestingly, its exactly trine my crazy Juno and sextile my Venus/Uranus (loosely though). The NN itself though, squares that Venus/Uranus (loosely again). EVEN WORSE and probably more significant, my NN is in an exact quincunx to its own ruler! YUCK. Its in a critical degree as well, but Scorpio (interestingly, Aries and Scorp traditionally share the same ruler of Mars). So I'm not entirely sure where to go with it...Mars also being my chart ruler again means a lot of my most vital energy comes from and goes into relationships (again to a detriment considering my SN Libra and the Mars quincunx action). I truly feel alive with someone else...but have all sorts of mechanisms that are strong but don't make relationships totally satisfying to me. I think I need to stop identifying to much with my Venus/Uranus and try to focus on the Mars? But Mars being quincunx to my own ASC and NN feels totally counterintuitive to me, I feel like my instincts about relationships are ALL inevitably difficult for me...maybe I need to focus on the aspects to my NN itself to deal with this? I have it trine by 1 degree to my Sag Sun in the 8th (seems like a loner position interestingly?), exactly quintile my Moon in the 10th, 1 degree sesquiquadrate my Scorp Merc in 8th, and again exactly quincunx its own freakin ruler, Scorp Mars in the 7th (there is also a square to my Sag Venus/Uranus in the 9th but a bigger orb, 4ish degrees). I don't know...maybe someone has thoughts on those placements and can illuminate me. But in any case, these issues are really central in my life and consciousness.

Okay, this is really long I apologize. But I hope in my tangents you get an idea of how I've found it helpful to make sense of my nodal placements, even though mine is a bit confusing- basically looking at its aspects but also, very very important, its "ruler" and where that lies in the chart. Also, CRITICAL DEGREES- these are huge too me and I really feel them! And look for pattens- I would be very surprised if your friend's 0 Aries node wasn't supported by other aspects/placements that might help you make sense of his chart. I can give it a look to if you want to post it, I'm actually quite curious as I've never seen anyone else's chart that had a 0 Aries!

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LanaofAugust
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posted May 28, 2010 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LanaofAugust     Edit/Delete Message
staborgi, my man has his NN at 1 deg Aries, so that's pretty close...

He's draconic chart is basically the same as his natal chart.

Hard to interpret all this in a way that would make sense to others but very intriguing...

~ Lana

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oneruledbymars
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posted May 28, 2010 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Star...
This thread should be very interesting.
I will come back later and read your full post.....got to hit the gym and pack for a trip...but I will catch up with you this evening when I get settled in there.

Thanks again!
XO

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staborgi
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posted May 29, 2010 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
I guess what I wonder about mainly is-
My natal north node falls in 0 Aries, in the 12th house, conjunct my 1 Aries ASC. This already feels kind of counterintuitive to me. How does Aries at a critical degree conjunct the ASC operate from the 12th house that is so behind the scenes?

My north node ruler- Mars- falls in the 7th house, at 0 Scorpio. Again, I'm a bit confused by this placement. The NN inconjunct its own ruler and the ASC which Mars also rules? I also wonder what to think about the NN ruler of Mars from Aries being in the 7th house whose energies are so opposite?

If anyone has any thoughts I would love to hear and really appreciate it

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iQ
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posted May 29, 2010 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
It is a superb blessing to have a Natal North Node conjunct Ascendant in Aries.

The Aries Ascendant honestly aims to be the best. Self Denial is not a strength.
NN Aries says that in the past you have been too Libran: Washy Washy, relationship oriented, too harmonious, and partner centric. To be fair to others, you have denied yourself.
So now improve by being self-centered in a positive way. There is encouragement in becoming an individualistic pioneer. You must learn to take decisions and take them fast. Aries Ascendant will help with that.
You must take calculated risks. You must try and own or run your own small business. In all these tasks you will be divinely guided.
The most important challenge for the Aries NN is to avoid complaining/blaming like a loser and slug it out to win. You are born to win and to have the mind pattern of a righteous warrior.

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enchantress299
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posted May 29, 2010 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message
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My north node ruler- Mars- falls in the 7th house, at 0 Scorpio. Again, I'm a bit confused by this placement. The NN inconjunct its own ruler and the ASC which Mars also rules? I also wonder what to think about the NN ruler of Mars from Aries being in the 7th house whose energies are so opposite?

I'll tell you what that says to me... It's similar to someone having their NN in the 7th house, but in Aries.

You DO need to work on relationships. However, what you need to work on in relationships is being independent WITHIN relationships. Sure, everyone needs to be comfortable while being single and alone, but that's not the primary focus with this. The primary focus is being able to stand on your own two feet within a relationship and not being afraid of expressing who you really are on the inside. Sometimes the reason people focus so heavily on the other person's needs and wants in a relationship is because they don't feel like they are worthy of the other person. They want to make sure that they keep the person around by being what they think that other person wants them to be.

Furthermore, and probably especially in your case, it's about SETTING BOUNDARIES in relationships. I say that this is especially true in your case because your NN is in the 12th house. The 12th house tends to make things diffuse, and though the 12th house is what you are working towards, because it is in Aries, there probably needs to be a balance between setting boundaries (or walls) around yourself that are too firm and ones that are too diffuse and enmeshed in the other person. You may be afraid to diffuse your own personal boundaries enough for your partners to see through to your true heart and soul. You may also diffuse your boundaries so much that again, you aren't showing them YOU, you are showing them what you think they want to see (which isn't your true heart, soul, and spirituality).

Anyway, I don't know if any of this is accurate for you, but I hope that it was at least helpful in some way. That's what I would probably think if I saw that particular placement.

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staborgi
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posted May 29, 2010 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks a ton iQ and enchantress299

iQ- thanks for the inspiring words!! Its funny because somehow I've attracted so many Aries into my life and they all kind of echo what you are saying. In any case, you are certainly correct about my Libran tendencies. I'm young though (fresh out of school) and not totally sure yet of where I want to go and how to kind of orient my Aries in a bigger sense (I also have Neptune in my 10th which seems to make me very confused about career/where I am going). Any tips on figuring that out? Should I look to the aspects my NN makes perhaps? Although maybe I have delusions about that and should think about it in an everyday capacity...

enchantress299,
I think you are TOTALLY right. Somehow, I'm scared of taking on a more marital role in relationships and always default to my Libran tendencies and my Venus- which ends up being a weird mixture of overly considerate but distant (my Venus is conjunct Uranus like I mentioned) and is not at all satisfying despite how comfortable it is. But when I take on Mars this feels more satisfying to me. I have some trouble mentally assimilating the 12th house energy with the ASC and Aries but I think you're onto something with the boundary thing, because my Libra tendencies, despite being so oriented towards relationships don't actually result in REAL relationships, there DOES always feel like there are boundaries there.

Thanks guys very helpful for me!

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posted May 29, 2010 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I dig your thread.

I have Aries NN and Chiron at 1' Aries. ouch!
I attracted a lot of Aries people in the past, (my father being a double aries) and i've learnt harsh lessons through them. Thankfully i seem to have passed these tests and moved onto greener pastures

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posted May 29, 2010 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
Lara- weird right? Aries are always all up in my face. Almost everyone in my family, if not an Aries, has some significant Aries placement and I always seem to attract Aries friends. Often I have some kind of iffy attitude towards their Aries-ness, I guess thats north node for you.

I'd be interested to hear your experiences with the placement, especially considering your Chiron placement! Sounds intense. My SN ruler Venus is opposite Chiron which sits at my IC. I've had a lot of trouble with it :/

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posted May 29, 2010 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
awwww Thanks for this guys my baby has 00'10" Aries NN, and I do have to push her to think more about herself since she pays too much attn to what others are doing. She's getting better though, Aries is so sweet I'm looking for Uranus @ Aries helping her to make a breakthrough....it rules her Asc so she should be sensitive to its transits.

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posted May 29, 2010 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
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I also have heard the NN is related to friends/associations...I'm not sure where that's come from?

Usually happens that important people you meet will have planets or lights conj this point in your chart to show you how to "do" your NN, in Aries how to lead the way, look out for #1, convey energy and enthusiasm, radiating innocence and bravery etc. With Aries the lessons can be harsh, with all the NN actually, because your Libra SN partnerships may be broken in ways that are hard for you to understand, but at the bottom of it is fostering your independence, ability to move on quickly from defeat, and start again. Aries is cardinal and the 1st fire sign, and the 1st sign of the zodiac, if nothing else it pioneers and gets the gears in motion. Depending on the rest of your chart will show how relatively easy or difficult these experiences might be. Condition of Mars is important, and the area that you will lead is shown by your NN house placement, too. Squares to the nodal axis are energies that will tend to work against you until you incorporate them and "do" them the right way.

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posted May 30, 2010 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
@Star,
I will try to look up his chart tomorrow and post it. And we can see how his chart is oriented.
Its about that time anyway its been 4 months and I need to see what he is all about.
Lonake, that's interesting what you wrote.
My Mercury is conjunct his NN...and my Sun and Mars are in Aries...so that's part of our connection.
I can see how he is enamored with my Aries traits.
He tells me all the time how special I am....and how he loves my drive.
He must have some Aries in his personal planets too though because he is very athletic, and I sense some fire in his Aura...he has a similiar drive but that could be that NN coming through...

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posted May 31, 2010 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message
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Somehow, I'm scared of taking on a more marital role in relationships and always default to my Libran tendencies and my Venus- which ends up being a weird mixture of overly considerate but distant (my Venus is conjunct Uranus like I mentioned) and is not at all satisfying despite how comfortable it is. But when I take on Mars this feels more satisfying to me.

That's good that you realize that. It will help you to balance yourself out.

It took me all the way until recently to realize that I was relying to heavily on my Mars in relationships. I've got the opposite problem; I rely too heavily on the strong Mars I have in my chart and and not enough on my Venus. It was only recently that I discovered that I was much more happy and satisfied when I was including my often overlooked retro Venus in Virgo into my relationships.

Anyway, good luck to you in figuring out your NN lessons. I've found that they are really valuable.

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oneruledbymars
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posted May 31, 2010 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
So here goes.....to funny Im sharing my first look at this chart with you guys....and as I suspected he is a very interesting soul.

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posted May 31, 2010 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
I love it my name Asteroid is conjunct his Psyche...I guess he wasnt lying when he said I am in his head! haha

Two things I love though...

His Saturn conjunct my Sun
My Saturn opposes His Sun

His Spirit is Conjunct My Sun
My Spirit opposes his Sun..

Wait.....

My Pluto opposes his Venus
His Pluto conjuncts my Venus

His Venus Conjunct My Mars
And my Mars trines his Venus

Our Auras are Conjunct

Moon conjunct Chiron
My Mercurly conjunct his Chiron

His Sun is conjunct My SN by Sign
And my Sun is conjunct his NN by Sign
My Mercury is conjunct his NN
His Moon trines my NN

AND his NN/Chiron are in my 7th house
His Mercury is in My 5th
And his Venus and Saturn are in my 8th,
I wont be able to fight this for very long
The blend of this appears to be that where normally Venus and Pluto would sweep you along there is enough Saturn to help us balance it and work with it realistically.

But all that Saturn is binding...and indicates lots of Karma...Im scared to look at the Draco! ha

His Sun Conjunct my Descendant

His Sun is conjunct my Venus and Mercury by sign
And my Sun is conjunct his Venus by Sign.

He also completes a Grand Water Trine with me twice...with his Mars and Neptune...it involves my Mercury and Jupiter...both at 29 degrees...so those are the intense emotions

**** !

And.....

His Angel Asteroid is conjunct my Moon
And Angel Asteroid trines his Moon

That is just a brief look at it....wow...
Im floored...I dont have this synastry with anyone!

How sweet though, his Moon/DNA trines my Valentine and his Aura opposes it..

Oh and I didnt post Valentine....but I just Checked because of what I just wrote.

By sign his Pluto is conjunct my Valentine
and My Pluto/DNA is exactly conjunct his...

*sigh*

How in the world am I going to deal with this...if this keeps going this man has the ability to touch me to the very smallest part of my being.....there is no way I will be the same...and the synastry says its not going to be a simple relationship.
It is as much Spiritual as it is Physical.

Its one thing to feel and daydream and its another thing to see it in front of you

Now I know why I never looked at this!
Thanks Star!

Excuse me....
I think I will go kill myself now....Im sure it will be easier than living through this...

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posted June 01, 2010 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Let's see the synastry, Mars!!!!

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oneruledbymars
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posted June 02, 2010 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
I know...I will get it, I promise.
I've gotta find out what time he was born.
Something is just telling me to go slow and I will know the right time to ask. Actually its saying he will volunteer it all.
Telling an Aries ruled Ego alter to go slow though is just wrong in itself...but I have to listen. So listen I will. When I get it I will post it in soul unions and you can post yours and I will do our asteroids....yay! Haha

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