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CrazyAquarian
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posted May 30, 2010 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message
Do these people tend to not see things to clearly when it comes to love and who they want. I know someone who has this and she is always thinking that these guys want her too and that they are doing things to show her it, but they don't. She thinks most every time it's so right as if it could be serious, when its nothing like that.

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posted May 30, 2010 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, this is my ex-husband. He had Sun/Venus/Mars all in Pisces. On the one hand, he was a hopeless romantic who was hurt and taken advantage of by his family and loved ones, but on the other hand, he was very manipulative and at best the truth was a large grey area for him (or you could say he was just a compulsive liar).

He was also an Aries Moon, so he was hyper emotional and unable to think clearly and objectively, and then you throw this Aries moon into the mix and any sliver of objectivity is throw out the window because all he cares about is how he thinks and how he feels and he could not put himself in anyone elses shoes to save his life. It was all "ME ME ME ME WHAT ABOUT ME???"... Anything emotional and he was demanding and petulant and angry and irrational. In my view.

He was very self serving and manipulative. he only ever did anything for anyone else because he had to to reach his own objectives. If he could get out of doing something or fulfilling promises and still feel like he would prevail, he had no conscience about breaking that promise or shirking that responsibility at all.

I'm so glad I'm not married to him anymore. He would often come up with ridiculous, subjective conclusions about things to which I would announce "NEPTUNIAN DELUSION STRIKES AGAIN!"... he just seemed to see life as thought it were through a fog of emotion. I'm an Aquarian too, it drove me nuts.

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Ami Ann
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posted May 30, 2010 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Venus,
Could I ask you a question a bit off topic.
OK-I see many people marry people with compatible charts--sometimes VERY compatible.
What happens that it doesn't work?
I know this sounds like a stupid question but it is real lol.

Thanks so much for any insights
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Venus De Milo
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posted May 30, 2010 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message
That is so funny -- I just answered that in your other thread!

Like, a minute ago, literally!

The answer is... I don't really know. My personal feeling is that you can't have something that wonderful until you've a) earned it b) until you're evolved enough to appreciate it. Which are somewhat similar states, anyhow?

The Pisces I was talking about in your other thread (not my ex-husband).... neither one of us trusted each other or the universe and for all the shenanigans that went on, i look back and realize in the beginning, if we had both blindly trusted one another, and took a leap of faith and believed in true love... everything would have been wonderful and we would not have let each other down.

So, in that way, we obviously weren't ready because we couldn't do that. And everything unravelled.

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posted May 30, 2010 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
venus in pisces=my aries mother...she also had mars in virgo and moon in taurus, so she was pretty grounded ... her pisces stuff came out in a love of the arts (a top priority in her life) and a desire to help the collective disadvantaged.

she could be very martyr-ish in fact in an argument that was her basic tactic, to go into a passive-aggressive protective shell and imply that you didn't appreciate her one way or another...

her venus was conjunct my moon so i didn't have a lot of problems understanding her. the passive-agressive stuff generally sailed past my left shoulder though she could incite me to rage too...!!

my saturn was on her mars though, so i probably sat on her more than she on me!!

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Ami Ann
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posted May 30, 2010 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Kat
Can you please explain, if you could how it feels to have your Saturn on someone's Mars.
Thanks so much!


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Benedict Moon*
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posted May 30, 2010 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
Yes and No.


My sister has Sun/Venus in Pisces but she also has a Gemini Moon and a Scorpio Asc. What happens is she'll have the inclination to put on the rose colored glasses, but in the end it gets messed up because she tries to either rationalize the situation or go into self-preservation mode.

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posted May 30, 2010 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I am interested in the Saturn on Mars thing myself.

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posted May 30, 2010 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone who know someone with the same situation, does that person get angry or resent the person who they thought had feelings for them?
Every time after she thinks they are assholes and goes on those "they are all the same" guy rants lol I don't know if that is part of it or if its something else.

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posted May 30, 2010 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubi001     Edit/Delete Message
couldnt resist this one.

the answer is YES

this guy was obsessed with me (ok maybe just really into me) and for some unexplainable reason thought i was into him too.
dont know where he got the idea. still trying to figure that out.
i swear he was delusional because he obviously saw something that was never there.

nice guy, but no matter how much i ignored him and kept it short, he just still thought we were meant to be or something.

had this happen with another guy too. long story but similar message.
i dont know why venus is considered exalted in pisces. i find the placement to be a handicap to anyone. sadly.
thankfully i dont have it *wipes forehead*

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posted May 30, 2010 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
I'm a Mars in Pisces, Gemini Moon, Scorpio ascendant - Benedict Moon's sister sounds like me. I can get swept away for a while, but I'm not comfortable there long-term. I need to know what's what, and will look at where I could easily have the wrong end of the stick.

I know a Venus in Pisces, who can be shifty when he wants to be. Not delusional, that I know of.

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i dont know why venus is considered exalted in pisces

When they're into you, and sincerely expressing themselves (or in another way, such as through music), it can be beautiful. I don't 'swoon' easily (the word itself makes me cringe), but one has had that effect on me (in the past, it was a fellow Mars in Pisces, or maybe it was his Taurus Moon, in my 7th). But, I do have that Mars in Pisces, so what feels good to me, might not feel good to you.

My Dad has Venus in Pisces, trine Jupiter in Scorpio (and my mother's Venus in Scorpio). He isn't afraid to show her how much he loves her ~ he writes the most beautiful things to those he loves (I can't read his birthday cards to me, until I'm alone, for that reason). When the actions back up the pretty words, it can be wonderful.

(Oops, sorry rubi001. I edited out the video, because I was worried that it might offend any sensitive guys out there. I love that movie, though. Liz Hurley was perfect as the Devil: "It's not easy being the Barbara Streisand of evil, you know." )

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posted May 30, 2010 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I agree with Teasel -- Venus in Pisces can be the most beautifully expressive sign.

My ex-husband did the same thing. He wrote the most beautiful cards, most beautiful emails and speeches, made wonderful promises he knew would make me happy.

(he bailed on every single promise as soon as it was no longer convenient)

We had a beautiful holiday in Australia and he put together all the pictures from the holiday in a book and narrated it and wrote how much he loved me and we would live happily ever after, yada yada yada.

It was really moving and precious. But he didn't back it up one iota. He was a terrible husband.

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posted May 30, 2010 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubi001     Edit/Delete Message
lol at that video Teasel.

and to answer CrazyAquarian's question about them getting angry at the other person who doesn't like them back, in my case its also true.

They both ended up blaming me.
Delusional #1- called me out on it and made it seem like I led him on. Never happened. I dont play games with people. Certainly never if im not even interested. So that was a bit awkward.

Delusional #2- tried to taint my reputation because i guess he thought i was playing games too (by completely avoiding him?) and maybe i hurt his ego when he realized i never was interested to begin with.

i try to stay away personally. this placement, i dont have good experiences with unless its friendship of the same gender in which case these problems never come up so its ok.

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Benedict Moon*
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posted May 30, 2010 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
I actually know of another Venus in Pisces who tends to be of the afflicted kind. I actually spoke of her in another thread: She has Venus/Mars conjunction there and is in love with this Gemini dude despite the fact that he's treated her like crap, abused their friendship, and even claims to be in love with someone else he met at work. The OP's description might explain to me why she still pines for him. She thinks on some level he's lying to himself and actually is in love with her too. I wish she would wake up.

(She's an Aqua Sun, Sag Moon, Taurus Ascendant.)


It's so weird how my sister and this friend of mine are two very different sides of the coin concerning this placement.

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posted May 30, 2010 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
Haha..
I guess Pisces Venus gets a bad rap doesnt it.
I can say that I have experienced the other side of the coin.
My Venus being in the 7th conjunct my SN and Mercury has been the bane of my existence til I learned to protect it. I have always gone into love blindly and I have never been able to control how, when or where my heart fell, it just fell...hard.
But this past 2 years I have learned to build boundaries and protect my heart. And it has been tough until I realize my greatest fear of being alone isn't so bad.
And now I can say that I don't need a romantic love...its definitely a theme in my chart...and I for sure was meant to do this with a soulmate but it is a soulmate relationship of very large Energetic proportions....but no worries, when the time is right it will happen.

For me its always been my heart that is what was broken though. I was always decieved...people have always pretended to feel the same til there actions proved they weren't....or they would say they weren't in love with me after 5 months only to pursue me after I left...which of course was to late by that time. A pattern of unwillingness to talk about there emotions has been the most noticeable trait.
I am very honest and forthright when it comes to love and commitment.
I usually get what I want and want what I get if that makes any sense.
But gosh I didn't know my fellow Venus in Pisces were so devious....I wonder why....I guess Pisces is two fish swimming in opposite directions. I guess its easy to detach from your shadow self and not see your actions for what they are.
But honesty first starts with being honest with yourself and acknowledging the shadow side. And I guess those rose colored glasses can be used to very easily decieve us if we do choose to.

I'm sorry to hear what you went through Venus de Milo....your heart chakra still seems damaged by that relationship...was it hard to heal from it?
So many people usually stay anyway...when was enough, enough?

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posted May 31, 2010 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
my sun is aqua but my venus is in pisces.

I'm thinking of Mr 1 as my "husband" everyday, although we are not in touch anymore and for a year at least.
I know for a fact he's got a GIRLfriend, he told me himself that he wasn't gay, and he lives in a foreign country...

am I delusional? don't tell me I won't believe you.

but, because I do come to my senses some times I look around too. now recently I met a nice guy, another straight. I need to change my behaviour with him cause I feel strongly and it shows I think.

but I'm torn, Mr 2 wouldn't be straight (big handicap I agree) would I give up my dream for inaccessible Mr 1 ?

I am aware of my delusion but it seems MUCH EASIER to live with them than without. delusion doesn't hurt. it is somehow a little bit better even;

edit: u know this moment u start to feel dizzy after a drink or two, you are euphoric and you just want to have fun, that is how I feel within. "love"
and I'm not THAT Bothered to love inaccessible men because on one hand I can dwell on the suffering and rejoice in it and on the other, I don't need reciprocity

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posted May 31, 2010 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
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i dont know why venus is considered exalted in pisces

Venus in Pisces = higher love, universal love, love that can only be felt through God/spirituality/the universe. It's love without superficiality. And Neptune is a higher octave of Venus.

I have Venus in Pisces and I hope I'm not delusional... although I do tend to get dreamy and daydream about people I care about.

Like Pire, I'm also an Aqua Sun (Libra Moon).

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posted May 31, 2010 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message
I also found she has venus square mars....don't think that will help.

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posted June 03, 2010 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message
Here is something I posted about Venus in Pisces in another thread...

I have an afflicted Venus in Pisces. My delusion was settling for the first guy to come along and not holding back. I also have Venus square Neptune for me is always rose colored glasses....I had to learn who is right for me and who is not and if I was in love with being in love or did I really love the person. was I swept away by my emotions at the start of the relationship - like a honeymoon phase or was I realistic and stable enough to see where the reality of things with a man was. Was I in a relationship just to have a family or did I want to truly share my life with a man.

I have questioned myself with relationships and where I stood and felt so confused with my relationship wants and needs. For a while there I prided myself on being successfully single.......

I find with my rose tinted glasses that I need to take a more realistic and grounded view of the man - woman relationship.

But on the other end of the stick with settling and sometimes rushing things I didn't always chose a man who was good and healthy for me and I stayed in a relationship for a long time cause I refused to realistically look at things. (I figure a bunch of it had to do with my upbringing cause I didn't have any healthy relationships with my family and attracted folks who were not good for me.)

well that was my subjective 2 cents....sorry I could be more objective....those were some ideas.....Venus square Neppy could be like the 7th house Neptune....The questions that I put down may lead to some soul searching insights with trying to put the pieces together. I'm just listing off my experiences/observations of it all.

Oh the thing with rose tinted glasses it's another way of being OPTIMISTIC about things instead of pessimistic....so for you the glass is half full! I think that is a good view to have!

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posted June 04, 2010 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
Cynnared, I don't have Venus in aspect to Neptune, BUT I do have Neptune in my 7th Rose colored glasses is right, but for me, I am always in a relationship. It doesn't matter how crappy the relationship is either.

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posted June 04, 2010 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message
You are very lucky you don't have Venus square to Neptune. Venus in Pisces is trippy enough with all the unconditional love and head in the clouds....

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posted June 04, 2010 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
my sun is aqua but my venus is in pisces.

I'm thinking of Mr 1 as my "husband" everyday, although we are not in touch anymore and for a year at least.
I know for a fact he's got a GIRLfriend, he told me himself that he wasn't gay, and he lives in a foreign country...

am I delusional? don't tell me I won't believe you.

but, because I do come to my senses some times I look around too. now recently I met a nice guy, another straight. I need to change my behaviour with him cause I feel strongly and it shows I think.

but I'm torn, Mr 2 wouldn't be straight (big handicap I agree) would I give up my dream for inaccessible Mr 1 ?

I am aware of my delusion but it seems MUCH EASIER to live with them than without. delusion doesn't hurt. it is somehow a little bit better even;

edit: u know this moment u start to feel dizzy after a drink or two, you are euphoric and you just want to have fun, that is how I feel within. "love"
and I'm not THAT Bothered to love inaccessible men because on one hand I can dwell on the suffering and rejoice in it and on the other, I don't need reciprocity


Your post gave me insight in to my LIFE--not the love part cuz I have hard bitten Venus in Gemini--unaspected--but the rest of my life.
I can look at a family member abusing me--right to my face--right IN my face--and not see it.
I have Neptune clouding my eyes to real life situations.
If someone hurts me I say,"No--that cannot be".
I make all kinds of excuses rather than simply push them away.
Neptune sees the world as a fairy tale.
I need to get my Pluto(chart ruler and conjunct the MC) and be ready to push back and push back hard.

Ami

PS I have Neptune in the 12th .Most of my planets aspect it.Perhaps, you can look at each planet getting rose colored glasses. That would make sense!

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