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belgz
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posted May 30, 2010 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
I am starting anger management classes on wednesday but i dont think its the best time since i have transit pluto opposing my natal mars now. I understand saturn in my first squaring mars as well is trying to tone down my anger but its a square. Could it have negative consequences holding my anger in? But as its compulsory i have no choice in the matter.

I want to stop getting moody but when i dont blow up i feel sick and even more angry with (whoever) and then i might hold a grudge. I am worse now that i cant exercise and use all my energy. So the question is when is the best time to start changing?

Pluto opp mars is my work controlling my anger.

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Diana
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posted May 30, 2010 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
I think it's a perfect way to deal with the transit, actually!

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MyVirgoMask
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posted May 30, 2010 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I had t Pluto opposing my Mars when I was 14...oh mah gaaahhhhd, I was a freakin' nightmare then. Teen hormones coupled with that transit = coo coo!
My parents literally put bars on my window and contemplated a padlock on my bedroom door.

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posted May 31, 2010 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurusvirgoleolady1974     Edit/Delete Message
im experiencing the same transit. It has really been showing, especially around that time of the month. to top it off, two natal planets in taurus.
But you know belgz i find it liberating in a dark way. I mean, i dont want to hurt anyone, but at the same time i have to say whats on my mind.
Im thinking of going to get meds to calm me down. i can be ruthless. i had actually stopped cursing, and i have started back doing it again.
I called my brother last week to tell him how unfair his destination wedding is last week. i have never really spoken up to him. it felt good. hes mad now but i dont care. he didnt think about my moms, my kids, or my feelings and income situation when making plans. its all about his fiance and what she wants. i dont even care if she doesnt like me anymore. he asked me while cussing at me if i had PMS. im like no, and thinking "i think its this transit!"
like i said, its liberating. mine lasts until Nov 2011...sheesh.
im glad i have matured because i have let a few arguments go; learned through maturity when to walk. and if i confront a person i make sure i dont cuss at them. i just cuss later.

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belgz
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posted May 31, 2010 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
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im experiencing the same transit. It has really been showing, especially around that time of the month

Exact same thing as me!! Mine all started a few weeks ago and it was the day my period was due. I sat in my ex bf's car but I had a feeling that morning that I was going to be destructive. I deliberately was nice to him and asked him to come pick me up and when he did I broke his console off and his rear vision mirror and threw out everything in his car.

I wasn't even relieved when I did it. It got worse than that and I started doing it in public and writing my work abusive emails that went into long detail about how stressed I am and that it's there fault, but these wern't the nicest emails either. I have stopped talking to anyone in authority unless they email me ( I don't take phone calls anymore) and now I have to complete a course of CBT and anger management. On one of these occassions I have been violent and my ex got 2 stitches on his forehead from one tiny wrong jerky movement of my hand and it scared me but I didn't want to back down either so I tried to maintain my anger and pretend I wasn't scared when he had blood dripping in his eyes.At that moment I couldn't just switch and say "oh baby I'm sorry" (as a normal person would) instead I got out of the car and walked an hour home with my heart racing thinking how evil I am, I'm scaring myself too and I feel awful but its not persistant it just comes out of nowhere and I can't help it.

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posted May 31, 2010 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Oh and how great is it that there is a lunar eclipse on my MARS that's coming up at 4 degrees cancer and my mars is at 6 degrees cancer.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted May 31, 2010 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Is it in Cancer or Capricorn? I though I read the June 26th eclipse will be in Capricorn.

I honestly would not work too hard on holding things in, Belgz. If there's one thing I've learned with these types of energies esp Pluto on Mars, it's that it's supposed to be cathartic and all about feeling things you never gave yourself permission to feel. The anger itself is not bad - anger is the reminder that a boundary has been crossed. Therefor being taken for granted is not something you will have to worry about!
Pluto says feel this OR ELSE. So give yourself permission to feel it

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Ami Ann
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posted May 31, 2010 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
With Pluto---He will take it all away if you don't reform first.
If you don't go way down deep and find out why and for what reasons you are so angry, Pluto will force the issue in the outside world.
Things will happen such as your hurting someone.
God forbid, you hurt someone permanently.
You would never forgive yourself.
I know your sensitive Cancer heart.
It would dwell forever in pain and shame.
Your anger is most likely childhood pain.
It is not your fault that you are angry.
However, don't let Pluto steal your life.
If YOU unearth it and deal with it---it will not manifest in the outside world.
When I read about what Pluto does, I get it cuz I did it wrong and did not unearth deep issues.
I thought I could make the outside work by ignoring the inside.
Pluto did his thing cuz he is an immovable force.

Ami


PS You are NOT evil. It is pain stuffed inside!

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posted May 31, 2010 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evanski     Edit/Delete Message
Are you sure it's not a hormone imbalance?

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MyVirgoMask
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posted May 31, 2010 04:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
lol

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posted May 31, 2010 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evanski     Edit/Delete Message
Seriously, it might be a hormone imbalance.

This is part of a testimonial from a 28 yr old for 30PLUS® ...

'Some months I just wanted to hide in the corner and cry and then the next month, I too just wanted to punch my husband’s lights out'.

I know you're under 30, and you didn't mention being sad, but it could be worth checking.

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posted May 31, 2010 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
The best Med for calming down is Meditation.

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Diablo
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posted May 31, 2010 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
I had really bad, Pluto type anger issues in my teenage years thru to my early 20s, being cancerian my emotions can be intnse and violent when I'm hurt, frusrated or angry enough.
I don't know what tansies were happening during those times but my volatile emotions brought on plutonian type changes in my life.
I'm glad I went through this when I was very young cos now i have a handle on most situations without losing it.
What helped me was getting into trouble and losing ppl, getting diagnosed with depression so I knew what my issue was and learning how to deal with it , learning how to listen to my internal gps, learning how to ask for help when i needed it, studying psych put everything into perspective for me as well as learning communication and how to do it effectively. Also, like iq said meditation helps a lot with the understanding yourself process as does any form of spirituality, astrology being one of them

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evanski
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posted May 31, 2010 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evanski     Edit/Delete Message
'I know you're under 30, and you didn't mention being sad, but it could be worth checking'.

By checking I meant checking hormone levels, not the product.

Okay, it's not the astrology advice you asked for so I won't post on this thread again.
Just thought it could be important and not saying something would be wrong.

Good luck with the classes

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belgz
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posted May 31, 2010 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Evanski,


What do you mean by hormones? What should I get checked out? I had a blood test for my pschiatrist a month ago which apparently tests for everything that makes people crazy LOL..
He said he was testing my blood cells to see if any illness was making me depressed. Everything came back normal.

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taurusvirgoleolady1974
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posted May 31, 2010 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurusvirgoleolady1974     Edit/Delete Message
belgz, i just think the transit intensifies hormonal issues, whether its PMS, or whatever. i dont think its just hormones. the fact that you said your blood tests came back normal just reiterates that. its the transit, i believe.

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posted May 31, 2010 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

It seems that transiting Pluto in opposition to your Mars indicates a time that you are being forced to deal with any anger that might have been repressed but is coming out because of things from your past being triggered.

From what you told me, you had a history of abuse at home.

I went to stress/anger management/coping skills classes when I was in the US Navy because of my problems with stress and anger, and I had a history of verbal and physical abuse too.


I think transiting Pluto oppose natal Mars is a good time for therapy. The hard Pluto aspects tend to indicate times when a person is going through evolutionary intensified time that involves undercovering deep,hidden material that might include history of trauma,abuse,and/or betrayal. With Mars, it involves passion,anger,violence,and men.


This is what Solar Fire says for transiting Pluto oppose Natal Mars:


It seems that someone else, or an insurmountable obstacle, is standing in your path right now and you are in danger of losing your temper. You are determined to continue with your goals and ambitions, but may have to clash with someone close to you in order to get what you want. You are forceful and determined. You may indeed find yourself doing battle with loved ones or taking inappropriate risks. You need to beware of hurting those that you love.


I will give you interpretation for it from Robert Hand's transit book too.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted May 31, 2010 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Raymond, I totally agree and can attest to this. At only 14 years old, this transit was sheer HELL to go through. And yes, partially hormones but the amount of resentment I had was almost unrecognizable. I was always this very sweet, quiet kid and then all hell broke loose.
I think had I felt more heard, I would've been able to better deal, but this transit triggered some hellacious issues for me which my teen brain was barely able to fathom.

Belgz, at least you're a grown woman and have knowledge of what you're going through...that counts for a lot!!!

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belgz
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posted June 01, 2010 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Well I guess I hope this works because I have become ruthless in the last few weeks I don't even feel any fear right now.

I don't know if they are past issues or present. I think it might be present because I am fed up really with everyone. I feel a bit better about starting now.

I have transit uranus exactly square my natal moon too. I feel under attack LOL

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posted June 01, 2010 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Um, Uranus on your moon is what to look out for because if you're not familiar with that energy it can bite you on the a$$!
As someone with this aspect, I can just offer you the advice to try something new often, and don't let yourself get into any ruts...because if you get bored, you will act out and Uranus/Moon tends to demolish whatever feels even remotely threatening to its freedom...

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