posted May 31, 2010 08:56 AM         

However, in books I've read and what I've found to be valid is up to 5 degrees for sextiles and trines and 10 degrees for conjunctions. However, the more planets involved the stronger I see it and more importance I place upon those aspects.

For example, I have Sun/Mars conjunct in my chart, tightly opposed Jupiter, all within 2 degrees. I tend to allow a wider orb for anything aspecting that in my chart.

I was very heistant to use wider orbs, but something that stood out to me was an acquaintance that I was always madly attracted to. Every time he walked into the room I would think "OH MY GOD NOW THAT IS A MAN!!! HE IS EXACTLY MY TYPE!!! PHEEWWWWW!!!"... (he was married and thus off limits, hehehe).

About two years later, I found out his birthday and quickly drew up a chart.

Not much going on there except Mars at 12 Aquarius loosely conjunct my Sun/Mars at 4 & 5 of Aquarius. Totally convinced me that the wider orbs count.

posted May 31, 2010 09:25 AM         

So therefore, each DUAL WAY (both people are attracted and in a relationship) partnership is unique and thus all aspects should be considered. Yes, the tighter aspects will probably be felt more, but to negate the wider orbed aspects i think, is wrong.

So if you are in a relationship with a person where the tightest aspect is 6 degrees, it should definitely be counted because there is something that brought the two together and there was something there that made them continue on and form a relationship.

posted May 31, 2010 10:37 AM         

Personally I would never consider a conjunction of 10 degree, even though I would check if there might be a rolling conjunction or a midpoint p icture involved or even a declinational aspect.
Those may be cumulative effects to the wide orb.

posted May 31, 2010 11:03 AM         

I say this becuz this would prevent the likelyhiid of self deception. So people aren't like, I met this new guy/girl yesterday and the synastry is sooooo amazing. But in reality, there is no relationship and the person doesn't even know if the othe person is even interested.

posted May 31, 2010 11:14 AM         

I actually divide my orbs into basic categories (of course their strenght depends also on the fact if there is a closed circuit for example).
For synastry and natal.

0-1 degree (90%-100%): very insistent;
probably felt so strongly, that there is an instinctive, immediate reaction, you just cannot NOT react

1-2 (80%-90%): very strong
this aspect resonates through your whole being

2-3 (70%-80%): strong
you still feel that aspect very clearly, but it has lost some of its intensity; it`s like you have more of a choice to react or not react (with the very tight ones you sometimes react or feel something BEFORE being conscious about it)

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3- 4 (60%-70%): medium strong
a "normal" aspect, but still pretty clearly to feel

4- 5 (50%-60%): medium
absolutely average

5-6 (40%-50%) medium weak
you probably still weakly feel this one, but it is not as strong as the others, and the closer aspects will take more of your attention

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6-7 (30%-40%): weak
it has weakened, but is still there, humming like a background melody

7-8 (20%-30%) very weak
a very quiet distant humming

8-9 (10%-20%)

9-10 (00%-10%)

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It all fades into the "sign-background", that you will still feel no matter where the planet is located in that sign. But that energetic response may not be there, or not be immediate.

posted May 31, 2010 11:22 AM         

Ami

posted May 31, 2010 11:33 AM         

well i can't agree on 8/9' being a distant humming cos it is absolute glue for some people!

posted May 31, 2010 11:49 AM         

If there's a stellium, let's say with 3 planets or more, and the outside 2 planets have a fairly large orb to each other, but they have a third planet conjoined in the middle, I will still consider them all conjoined.

posted May 31, 2010 11:52 AM         

I agree with all the way!

but

in synastry,

I do believe in using much tighter orbs for the outerplanets and the transneptunians due to their generational effects.

the same with the centaurs, but it depends on the centaur.

Sedna is the object that would get the tightest orb of all because its orbit is over 11,000 years.

I also believe in using smaller orbs for asteroids including dwarf planet Ceres which I believe could use a slightly larger orb than all the other asteroids. It stands alone as the only asteroid that is a dwarf planet.

natal, I would use 1 to 3 degrees for minor planets overall.

Small transneptunians would probably get a maximum orb of 1 degree compare to the transneptunian dwarf planets/candidates that would get a maximum orb of 3 degrees. This especially goes for Eris,Pluto,Makemake,and Haumea which are the 4 largest dwarf planets.

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Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted May 31, 2010 12:31 PM         

I know that there are many people who will agree with you on that.
Personally, I donīt. It all gets too arbitrary and inconsistent for me.
But different opinions are fine.

posted May 31, 2010 12:34 PM         

I agree with you.
That simple categorization system was only for personal planets and the main aspects conjunction, opposition, square and trine.

posted May 31, 2010 12:37 PM         

Yeah

We are on the same page when it comes to orbs.

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.

posted May 31, 2010 03:54 PM         

How about if those certain planets have a larger impact in your chart? Me for example, Mars in the most domimate planet in my chart, and I also have alot of Cap and Aqua influence. Would you use looser orbs with my mars, saturn, and uranus? And for the sun and moon are naturally strong as well. Or if that planet is in your 1st house.