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belgz
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posted June 06, 2010 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Ok so I have been reading and reading and have come to a conclusion that I don't want Saturn and Mars in my SR 6th house this year.

I don't normally believe that I could change my destiny by simply being somewhere else in the world but I am going to give it a try and see how it goes.

There are 3 places I am willing to go for a holiday on my birthday. Which one do you guys think looks the best. I don't care about love relationships or money. Just good health... and not because I'm planning the operation lol I was reading that Saturn and Mars in 6th is the worst position in a solar return chart and can show pathologies to do with bones and teeth etc.

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posted June 06, 2010 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
This one is for Istanbul..

http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_31gw_01_belgin_colak_201066.14638.19169.gif&res=100&va=&cid=582fileWEP0zi-u1065325146

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posted June 06, 2010 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
This is for Sydney where I live now.

http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_31gw_01_belgin_colak_201066.14799.21135.gif&res=100&va=&cid=582fileWEP0zi-u1065325146

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belgz
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posted June 06, 2010 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Actualy there is either one or the other..

I looked up Egypt and its almost the same as Istanbul.

I then tried New zeland and its not very different from Sydney. I tried all the states in Australia and they just bring my SR chart AC to my 6th house.

I even tried Russia but even Moscow was similiar to Istanbul.

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A_L_F
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posted June 06, 2010 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for A_L_F     Edit/Delete Message
It's an interesting concept. I wonder if the effect, if any, lasts only as long as you're in the new place. And does it revert to what it would have been when you're back in the place you normally reside. Like all the potentials are 'rained down' to all places on earth based on where the places are, and by moving around from place to place you're effectively moving through contrasting solar return manifestations.

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Ami Ann
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posted June 06, 2010 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
It is am amazing concept that you can change your solar return chart by going to a different place on your birthday.
It reminds me of a Twilight Zone episode .

x o x o Ami

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amowls*
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posted June 06, 2010 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
Have you tried the Americas? The farther you go, the more different it is.

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posted June 06, 2010 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
When I changing my SR chart I in time go mad. I work in one country and live in another country. Sometimes I go by train on my birthday and another time I'm going to holiday. My birthday on the summer. Nowadays I always use my birthtown. The town my chart be intended to be.

I can't think noone should move to another place to get a better life. I cant think that's noones meaning in this life.

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Diana
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posted June 06, 2010 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
People have tried this and it made no difference. Unless you stay there, it will revert back to your current town.


You can try it.


Don't feel bad. I have t. sat in my natal 6th for well over two years, not just for SR.

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posted June 06, 2010 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ohmybaby     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the help, I think I'll try it. How can one get out of their current town?

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staborgi
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posted June 06, 2010 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
Have you felt a difference changing location before? In my experience my birth place solar return usually manifests somehow, maybe less so than if I am in a different location on my birthday though...anyway I'm curious about your experience with this because I used to try and move around on my birthday and my aunt SWEARS by it, she almost never stays in her hometown during her birthday...but I've had mixed feelings about it?

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Writesomething
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posted June 06, 2010 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
Ive traveled for my SR change...and it didnt do sh-t. I think it only works if you STAY there...not just visit for a few days..so unless you plan on hanging out for at least a month, I dont think it makes a difference IMO.

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posted June 06, 2010 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
Also I can't seem to access those photos to see what signs and aspects those planets are making but I have a great book on solar returns by Mary Fortier Shea and it talks about the health problems of Saturn in the 6th but stresses that as a rule its usually health problems from long term issues- i.e. if you've been stressed for a long while, eating poorly, smoking, etc. now is the time a long term habit or stress will tend to strain your body and require you to make long term life style changes. Likewise, in assessing Mars in the 6th she mainly says that if you have healthy habits it probably wont affect your health- only if you are doing something to work against your own health/something self destructive. Don't forget the 6th house is also work! I guess other aspects/sign placement might make the manifestation clearer, but I wouldn't necessarily immediately worry if you don't have any pre-existing bad habits.

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posted June 06, 2010 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
Saturn/Mars in the 6th is really good for LOSING weight...Mars for the energy, and Saturn for the hardwork. This would actually be perfect for weight loss, and breaking old habits.

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posted June 07, 2010 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
I've pluto in house 6 2009 and start on gym and get one new body because that. Everone thought I lose weight but not..only more training

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posted June 07, 2010 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
2010 saturn conj mars are in t-square to many peoples SR also in my SR. In my SR I've a stellium saturn,mars,valentine,eros,vesta,venus in t-square to uranus/jupiter and pluto.

I've nept and chiron on DC in house 6. I think this one could be more dangerous to have in house 6 if you not use it on a good way. mars conj saturn is better. I think mars conj saturn could be a good one to have as they say before here. That brings more strength and capacity to make the life better.

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posted June 07, 2010 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
@belgz,

If you go somewhere for one day or one week for your birthday, you can't change your destiny. Believe me, anybody who writes about going for holiday somewhere far away to change the next year, this one is very wrong. There are also Transits and Progressions and they are everywhere the same.

About Mars and Saturn in the 1st: I had it 2002 and all what happened to me is that I fell down on the street (Mars - accident) and have broken my teeth, only half of them (Saturn - teeth’s and bones).
If you don't have it in your Natal Chart, it is not so much important in the Solar Return.

I think that some people have too much money and they can go anywhere. In other country for SR can be worse, you never know.

B.

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belgz
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posted June 07, 2010 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
LOL I like the part where you say ONLY! ...
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I had it 2002 and all what happened to me is that I fell down on the street (Mars - accident) and have broken my teeth, only half of them (Saturn - teeth’s and bones).

I mean that's a big deal and I will have saturn and mars in first of my solar return chart in 2012.

I did go see a specialist today and I am 100 percent getting the operation done for gastric banding and he said to me there was possible risks but it was a very simple procedure and I WOULD NOT DIE from it. He asked me how I felt about eating fluids for a while and not eating as much and I said I was okay with that in fact it even fixes things like reflux as well. So about weight loss it's going to come fromt his operation I will have after the eclipses.


In regards to work I haven't worked since last year June because I wanted to take a year off to travel but last Friday I decided I will look for a job and might return to work. For now I'm going to keep going for impossible to obtain interviews and jobs so if I get lucky I will get a high paying job in a very good position.

So it could be the job?? Or it means this operation...

Today I also found out I have Polysistic Ovarian Syndrome or something everything is coming out of nowhere and I am a very healthy person.

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posted June 07, 2010 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
@belgz,

I have my Natal Mars and Saturn in 10th house and only Saturn squares my ASC.
To break one tooth is not so bad as long as I don't have really accident with some worse consequences.
My accident with teeth’s was with 24 years of age, when dentist pulled my four healthy teeth’s, because he thought my pains on the right side are from the teeth’s. That is tragedy!

Later I had to fight not to loose all teeth’s on the right side. The reason: my teeth’s have nothing to do with my pains.

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bonadea33
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posted June 07, 2010 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
@belgz,

I don't see your SR. The picture disappeared.

You remind me on one female member in other Astrology Forum: she was pretty boring always writing (Horary and Read my Chart): I want to marry and have a child. Somebody told her, it is good to go for SR in some other country. She did. The things stayed the same (since four years). She is still asking: when will I marry?

I am not better, neither. I always ask:
When will I relocate?
When will I get the right therapy?

Somebody wrote: why you always ask the same questions? Why?
As long as doesn't happen one or both of my questions, I will ask. To ask for something is no SIN.

About your surgery: I wouldn't be afraid.
About the job: if you look for the job, you will get it.

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belgz
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posted June 07, 2010 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Bon,

Well I like to think I'm not boring but thanks anyway.

I am going to look up the year I had 4 teeth pulled out I wanna see what my solar return looked like that year too.

EDIT: And does it really matter what i talk about on here? I mean why is it a problem for you if I talk about marriage and babies? I haven't spoken about marriage or babies at all this year LOL... I was fixed on it for a while because that was all i cared about but if thats relevant to my life then of course that's going to be the only topic I talk about.

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belgz
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posted June 07, 2010 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
It was 2003 and I had SR saturn conjunct venus in 12th..(conjunct my natal mars 0 degrees) That year they pulled out 4 of my teeth and I had braces put on..

I also had sun and mercury in first showing improvement I guess in my image.

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posted June 07, 2010 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
@belgz

I don't think about you, to be boring. No way!
You are kind and friendly person. I am just talking about changing place or country for Solar Return that some people did it and there was nothing better.

For the female person about asking the same questions I can also understand, like other people should understand me.

There is aphorism:
Sick people have only one problem: to become healthy!
Healthy people have many problems (money, house, good job ect).

About pulling teeth's, I am not sure was it then or later? I only remember how 5-6 dentists in Dental Clinic were laughing around me.

B.

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belgz
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posted June 07, 2010 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Well I had a very significant year in 2003 and my solar return for the country I celebrated my birthday in doesn't match the events that happened. So I doubt it works either.

Sorry if i misunderstood you.

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posted June 07, 2010 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A_L_F     Edit/Delete Message
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I had it 2002 and all what happened to me is that I fell down on the street (Mars - accident) and have broken my teeth, only half of them (Saturn - teeth’s and bones).
Cutie.

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