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posted June 07, 2010 06:25 PM         

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one thing i do not see discussed often is how people can learn to handle, and manage aspects.

particularly strong aspects, squares, conjunctions, opositions, but mostly squares and oppositions.

both natally and in synastry.

my question is, for example, i have venus & moon square saturn natally, Can i consciously handle the unconscious patterns in dealing with these aspects that produce negative habits/tendancies??

is it possible to consciously handle unconscious things in astrology like this?

including synastry too, has anyone here tried to 'consciously' work with aspects both natally and in synastry? does it work?

any advice on the example i gave? anyone with experience trying to handle them?

thanks for reading

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posted June 07, 2010 09:50 PM         

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Hi Letram
I am reading a book "The development of Personality" By Liz Greene which discusses just what you are asking.
For me ,personally, I try to work on my Mars in Cancer .
I try to be more direct about my feelings particularly anger but any drive.
I ,also, am working on my Neptune aspects which make me want to live in a world where everything is nice and kind.
It hurts me to face the not nice and not kind parts of myself and those of others .
I am trying to access my Pluto conjunct MC. This is a strong aspect. With it, I should be able to deal with whatever comes my way.
I think so, anyway, if I understand it right .
I think you would like the book.

Ami

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posted June 07, 2010 11:49 PM         

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my question is, for example, i have venus & moon square saturn natally, Can i consciously handle the unconscious patterns in dealing with these aspects that produce negative habits/tendancies??

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Yea, this square relates to you not having an accurate perception of reality. Venus Moon square Saturn tends to feel automatically uninvited and rejected. With Saturn the best thing to do is to confront the fear head on. You may want to stay clear of, though, certain people who are not good for you being that you're Saturnian, which are people who are obviously not very deep and who cannot keep pace with you as you're likely mature for your age, likely your peers, you won't understand their values and they will not feel you fit into their social strata. That's fine just inventory what is good about you and look for people who are the same as the traits you like about yourself or who are complementary.
To consciously work with Moon/Saturn you have to nurture yourself in the way that you would have loved your mother to do, but for some reason somewhere you feel that she didn't, if you felt she was critical you have to often practice praise for anything that you do no matter how small if it's a step forward then it deserves good mention. Take care of yourself when sick, look after others too since it's not all about your inecurity, so don't forget to nurture friends and family, be the mom you wish you had and want to be. Spend some time if you're not a mom thinking about what you'd say how you'd be what you'd want to teach and be that for you. You can definitely re-program yourself.
Venus/Saturn, don't be so quick to feel rejected, keep in mind maybe the other person is having a bad day, once again since you're likely to be sensitive to this don't automatically assume it's about you, give em some space and then come back and try to talk with them again. If you're insecure about your looks it's helpful to get a personal style, make a collage with beautiful actors/actresses, colors, fabrics, patterns, clothing styles, quotes, any kind of item can be an inspiration piece, it's actually called an Inspiration Board, and you can do it for any time you want to make something new or want to get a handle on what it is you're trying to express, even for writing a book or designing furniture or decorating a room, anything creative you can
use an inspiration board to clarify the kind of statement you want to make and how you want it to look/feel.

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posted June 08, 2010 03:24 PM         

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Good post , Im always trying to manage my saturn opposite my mc...I always feel like Im not good enough, always doubting myself and comparing myself unfavourably...Im trying to work on that, have been for years. I have jupiter quincux my ascendant and I have to scold myself regularly to step away from the fridge....I have so many more harsh aspects that I try to tame but to no avail....I think its all sunbconcious....unless your into astrology and check out your chart that is lol

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