posted June 12, 2010 10:23 AM         

Maybe cause they are so sensitive and being a Fish myself, I pick up on their sensitivity and their (all 3 of them) discomfort with being so sensitive.

I dont know, just wanted to put it out there incase anybody else has experienced tiptoeing over proverbial eggshells with water men.

thanks.

posted June 12, 2010 08:44 PM         

I have deeper connections with water boys then with any other signs.. The water hits important houses for me..
My H4 is Cancer
My H8 is Scorpio
My H12 is Pisces.

Fire guys= I feel challenged by, as if they are trying to control me.. I'm so outta there. It's rare for me to even get to a first date with a fire guy, usually after talking on the phone a few times. Its over.. LOL....

Air/Air Guys= I've dated few of each, even Married one, but just can't relate. Cant get that sincere deep connection..

One thing that I have noticed though, is no matter what sign they are, most of the time they have Pisces placements..

Probably my Eros.... I cant spot those Pisces from across the room... HAHAHAHAHH..

posted June 12, 2010 10:33 PM         

I have a male Pisces friend, he always shows me attention and then splits faster than lightening striking for no apparant reason...........I am always left so confused "what did I say or do now?!"

posted June 13, 2010 12:30 AM         

I think you get what I am saying, afraid to do anything wrong to, god forbid, "hurt" them or offend them or....when I finally was totally and completely myself, when I expressed MY needs the Fish swam...

Psycho Cancer, could not wear what I wanted, talk to who I wanted, could not relay a day at work for fear of saying something that would not settle well with him...

And my grandpa....another Cancer, has always made me feel uncomfortable, is why I write here, I find myself tip toeing around him too!

dunno.

Seems to me, the earth men in my life could take it, the air men just dealt, never been any fire men, but cant see them wilting away either, but those water guys...just cant deal.

posted June 13, 2010 01:19 AM         

I know why that happens though.

It's because they are not sharing everything with you, they can't be blunt, so they find weird ways of hiding most of their thoughts from you, and end up leaving you puzzled.

posted June 13, 2010 12:00 PM         

insulted Piscean I AM ONE!!!!

posted June 13, 2010 12:51 PM         

The particular one I mention also has Cancer Rising!!! Holy geezzz.......(forgot to mention that)

If you go to Sasstrology.com and click on Pisces, then read all of the contributions people wrote, you will totally be able to relate!!!

posted June 13, 2010 01:49 PM         

And whatever, I think it's conditioning. American Culture doesn't encourage things like straight men being soft or emotional so obviously the waterdudes here will have problems. But if you go into a culture where its okay for EVERYONE to be histrionic and emotional, then wow...watch how the watch how the 'eggshells' magically dissappear! And also: look at the rest of the chart, por favor.

posted June 13, 2010 02:11 PM         

conditioning maybe, but that is why i have started this thread.

i think not, i think it has a basis for our sun signs, however, i mentioned my pisces love, who had a HUGE influence in aries...

you would think fire would just burn it away and according to him that is exactly what he did "shine it on..." as b used to say..

sitll, and i will not repeat myself with examples, H2O prevailed, and STILL, from what i have seen being a water man has everything to do with it.

re-member i started this thread with just be-ing with my 87 yr old Cancer grandpa for several days....American condtioning was quite different "back then."

posted June 13, 2010 02:21 PM         

So why blame the victim when you have the source of the problem?

posted June 13, 2010 03:02 PM         

no intention to agrue, just an observation..

from a Fish

posted June 13, 2010 04:13 PM         

I agree with you 100 percent as a male with strong water chart (Sun,Mercury,Venus in Scorpio and Moon in Pisces) as well as strong in Neptune and Transneptunian energy. It's hard for me to express my sensitive and emotional nature. As a little kid, I was the "crybaby" type,and I got teased for it by other boys. My being an ultrasensitive,emotional person is connected to both my neurodivergence and my having higher than average estrogen levels.

I grew up with a mother who is very strong in water (Ascendant,Mercury,Venus,Jupiter,Uranus in Cancer and Moon,Saturn in Scorpio), and I feel the eggshells applied to her a lot. She was always the type that would get upset easily. When she would get very emotional, it would be hard to reason with her. She also has Orcus only 10 minutes on the Ascendant which is like having Pluto on the Ascendant. She is also a neurodivergent.

Her birthday is today. So she has Sun in Gemini, but that longitude placement is in 12th house trine Neptune,and so her Sun is very Pisces like. She also has Sun sextile Pluto,and she has Sun parallel Pluto. Therefore, she has a Sun-Pluto bilevel,and so she has affinity with my Sun in Scorpio.
so her Sun is even watery.

She told me that my father was an ultrasensitive,emotional type. He was also a neurodivergent type. He had Moon in Pisces like me ,and it disposited by a stationary retrograde Neptune. There are other things too.

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Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.

posted June 13, 2010 11:07 PM         

I hope you are doing better and moving on from your Pisces ex. You deserve someone wonderful who knows what he's got.

As to your question, sometimes I feel that way about scorpio men. Just some of them, and only some of the time.
Like my father, for example.

It's like I have to weigh my words with him (hard for Sag's sometimes) because I know his little "triggers."
But, yet, on the other hand, I'm always so very drawn to Scorpio.
A huge portion of the men that I am close to are water suns.
Pisces and Cancer are just so easy for me to talk to, and the repoire (sp?) is instant.

Having said that, I think the best water sun men have some Earth to them. Just my opinion of course, but Water with fire seems to make a man that reacts too hastily to emotional or sensitive subjects.
Water sun men with air seem to be a bit baffled by their own emotions, and it's hard to read them, at least for me.

Right now I've got a Water/Water/Water. lol. Yeah, wowzers, he's a trip.
Definetly not of this world!!

posted June 14, 2010 01:26 AM         

so

if a person has Sun in a water sign in Geocentric chart, Earth will be in an earth sign in Heliocentric chart

I have Sun in Scorpio,and so I have Earth in Taurus.

Heliocentric chart is said to be about the higher self.

another thing to keep in mind is if your Sun is conjunct a heliocentric node, the Earth is conjunct the opposite heliocentric node

for example:
I have Sun in 5'20 Scorpio conjunct heliocentric South Eris Node in 5'30 Scorpio, and so I have Earth in 5'20 Taurus conjunct heliocentric North Eris Node in 5'30 Taurus.

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.

posted June 14, 2010 06:31 AM         

I would have earth in Virgo, and that does not please me....however my Pisces ex would too and would explain his over-pickiness, critical side, etc.???

Gypsee, what Pisces ex??? I would not say I am "over him" but I am, had to work good and long at it, from trying to hate him, plotting to bring him down, financially, which I could do to an extent, to finally admitting I love the man, he was my one and only true love, and loving him enough to bless him and send him along the way on his path...Took me a while to get there, but I am there!

blessings