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Glaucus
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posted June 22, 2010 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"you think my carefree/rebellious nature has more to do with these guys??"

Yeah...without a doubt!

Eris makes Uranus look normal. It's far more of nonconformist than Uranus, especially if you consider that Eris orbits well beyond Neptune and orbits well off the ecliptic unlike Uranus. I think Uranus goes against the status quo, but Eris not only goes against the status quo but is a threat to it with its potential to smash it down. Eris' discovery led to redefining of planetary boundaries which led to Pluto being demoted and Ceres promoted with them being both classed as dwarf planets along with Eris.


In the dictionary, eristic means the following:

Noun 1. eristic - a person who disputes; who is good at or enjoys controversy
controversialist, disputant
individual, mortal, person, somebody, someone, soul - a human being; "there was too much for one person to do"
contester - someone who contests an outcome (of a race or an election etc.)
accuser - someone who imputes guilt or blame
arguer, debater - someone who engages in debate
denier - one who denies
hairsplitter - a disputant who makes unreasonably fine distinctions
logomach, logomachist - someone given to disputes over words
obstructer, obstructionist, obstructor, resister, thwarter - someone who systematically obstructs some action that others want to take
quarreler, quarreller - a disputant who quarrels
crusader, meliorist, reformer, reformist, social reformer - a disputant who advocates reform
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/eristic


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lechien
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posted June 22, 2010 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow, i knew nothing about Eris before. now i'm proud of my Eris.

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posted June 22, 2010 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awesome thread! I like how I can ask just about anything on here and get so much information. Thank you Raymond!
I'll go through it all and come back later

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Glaucus
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posted June 22, 2010 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucifer being discovered on October 29th which is also my birthday and Adolf Hitler's nazi propagandist Joseph Goebell's birthday means that The Lucifer Discovery chart has Sun conjunct the South Eris Node in Scorpio. It also means that Earth is conjunct the North Eris Node in Taurus in the Lucifer Heliocentric Discovery chart.

For some reason,every 28th-30th of October
the geocentric and heliocentric nodes are aligned with each other within a few minutes and they align with the Sun,Earth within 1 degree.
Sun conjunct Geocentric South Eris Node in Scorpio
Earth conjunct Heliocentric North Eris Node in Taurus

for some reason, every 25-27 of April,the geocentric and heliocentric nodes are aligned with each other within a few minutes and they align with the Sun within 1 degree
Sun conjunct Geocentric North Eris Node in Taurus
Earth conjunct Heliocentric South Eris Node in Scorpio

With Sun,,Earth aligned with Geocentric,Heliocentric Eris Nodes, Lucifer can be connected to the collective Eris energy dealing with diversity,equality,controversy,and discord
which can be linked to going against the status quo.


It seems that when the Sun conjuncts a Geocentric node of Jupiter or an object beyond it,Earth is always conjunct the opposite node of the object from the heliocentric perspective, and the geocentric and heliocentric nodes are in convergence within 1 degree. This seems to be the case for the geocentric,heliocentric nodes of transneptunians like Pluto,Eris,and Sedna.


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Cardinal Arbiter
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posted June 22, 2010 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cardinal Arbiter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got Lilith Asteroid square Lucifer exactly. Lilith at 0 Scorpio retrograde, and Lucifer at 0 degrees Aquarius.

Is it always square like that? I'm looking around and people are assuming their lilith based on their lucifer. but they're not guessing squared signs they're guessing opposites.

Alright no it isn't. Just insecure, because it wouldn't be the first time I made a fool of myself like such.

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iQ
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posted June 23, 2010 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LUCIFER T-Squared Saturn and Uranus during the horrific 20th April 2010 Gulf Coast explosion.

100% nasty record for a Lucifer T-Square in event charts, though in personality it is a mixed bag.

Oh, and one more point for Asteroids: CALDERA and VULCANO in exact square on 20th April, with South Node conj CALDERA exact. Things were worse in the 26th April chart though, had the oil rig not been exploded on 20th, it would eventually have exploded by 29th April 2010.
This year, CALDERA conjunct Saturn will be a very serious event, last week of October because Mr POSEIDON will still be in Capricorn, opposing VULCANO.
LUCIFER will manifest its exact quincunx with Uranus.

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posted November 15, 2010 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for britterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucifer is at 22 degrees Taurus in my chart.

My north node is at 22 degrees of Taurus as well.

I feel a strong need to get in touch with my dark side. rrrrrrooowr...

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DiandraReborn25
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posted November 15, 2010 01:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
althoug it means bearer of Light,to those who have hard aspects in dark archetype asteroids linked with lucifer..it is probable that goes strongly to the negative side of the asteroid.

from personal experience,both from the past as well as the present,i know how bad people can be,those that have nasty lucifer placements.

it has only to do with one thing: personal choice.

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DD
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posted November 15, 2010 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucifer`s greatest downfall is arrogance.

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britterfly
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posted November 15, 2010 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for britterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are the asteroids associated with Lucifer?

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DD
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posted November 15, 2010 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is an asteroid LUCIFER. Its number is 1930.

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Lara
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posted November 15, 2010 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have lucifer is 12' capricorn.
Sabian: A Fire Worshipper Meditates On The Ultimate Realities Of Existence

It conjuncts my
tropical Destinn and Atlantis
secondary pluto

It opposes my
secondary DNA

My draco Lucifer cj my dr nephthys/atlantis/destinn and opposes my tropical transylvania. I wonder sometimes if Lucifer (Latin for LIGHT BEARER) shines a light on past life locations. I say this because part of my family is from the Carpathian mountains that make up Transylvania.

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posted November 15, 2010 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for britterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks DD. What are the asteroids *associated* with this asteroid you call "Lucifer"?

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DD
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posted November 15, 2010 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don´t understand the question. Sorry, I have no idea what you mean.


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Lara
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posted November 15, 2010 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
btw DD did you know that Archangel Lumiel is known as the light bearer and his egyptian name is Osiris?!
Not sure how true it is.

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DiandraReborn25
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posted November 15, 2010 04:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i found this too about Lucifer,by wikipedia

Joseph Campbell (1972: pp. 148–149) illustrates an unorthodox Islamic reading of Lucifer's fall from Heaven, which champions Lucifer's eclipsing love for God:

One of the most amazing images of love that I know is in Persian – a mystical Persian representation as Satan as the most loyal lover of God. You will have heard the old legend of how, when God created the angels, he commanded them to pay worship to no one but himself; but then, creating man, he commanded them to bow in reverence to this most noble of his works, and Lucifer refused – because, we are told, of his pride. However, according to this Muslim reading of his case, it was rather because he loved and adored God so deeply and intensely that he could not bring himself to bow before anything else, and because he refused to bow down to something inferior to him (since he was made of fire, and man from clay). And it was for that that he was flung into Hell, condemned to exist there for eternity, apart from his love.
This interpretation of the satanic rebellion described in the Quran is seen by some Sufi teachers such as Mansur Al-Hallaj (in his 'Tawasin') as a predestined scenario in which Iblis-Shaitan plays the role of tragic and jealous lover who, unable to perceive the Divine Image in Adam and capable only of seeing the exterior, disobeyed the divine mandate to bow down. His refusal (according to the Tawasin) was due to a misconceived idea of God's uniqueness and because of his refusal to abandon himself to God in love. Hallaj criticized the staleness of Iblis' adoration. Excerpts from Sufi texts expounding this interpretation have been included along with many other viewpoints on Shaitan (by no means all of them apologetic) in an important anthology of Sufi texts edited by Dr. Javad Nurbakhsh, head of the Nimatullahi Sufi Order.[20]

The Sufi teacher Pir Vilayat Inayat Khan taught that 'Luciferian Light' is Light that has become dislocated from the Divine Source and is thus associated with the seductive false light of the lower ego, which lures humankind into self-centered delusion.[21] Here Lucifer represents what the Sufis term the 'Nafs', the ego.

makes sense to me,if i associate it with the person i was talking about..its all the ego wantins and needs,not about the highest manifestations of love and generosity and all positive that is associated with love.

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DD
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posted November 15, 2010 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I had no idea. But that sounds interesting.

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racole12
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posted November 15, 2010 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought this was funny...

One of my closest friends/ex of mine has his Lucifer conj my Moon, exact. He has always said, and still says... I am the light at the end of his tunnel... LOL.

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marssquarenep
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posted July 07, 2012 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for marssquarenep     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
29th OCT is my birthday too!Would u pls explain what does lucifer in leo 7th house mean?it's opposite my jupiter in 1st house,square sun/pluto/SN in 10th scorpio,n square moon/NN in 4th taurus.But i don't get what does it mean very well.
Thanks

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