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Ruben Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2010 02:50 AM
I've recently developed a fascination with the concept of reincarnation. I know that there are several indications of karma from past lives, and signs of past life connections in synastry. But I was wondering, apart from the usual indications (Saturn, the 12th house, South Node), are there other significant aspects?Have you ever had an experience that seemed like a past life connection or related to a past life, and had it confirmed astrologically? IP: Logged |
Deliverance Knowflake Posts: 207 From: South of the river Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2010 02:55 AM
I have no idea about synastry, but look at the ruler of the south node, it's sign, house & aspects for clues about your own past life in the natal chart.IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 2806 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted June 23, 2010 02:58 AM
Yes, like Deliverance says. 4th house too, IC or IC ruler, or South Node, maybe add a dash of the Moon or even Neptune with that stuff.IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 2806 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted June 23, 2010 03:00 AM
".... had it confirmed astrologically?"i'm sorry, but how can you 'confirm' past lives astrologically, or any way otherwise? it's all speculation. no one will be able to 100% confirm anything with past lives. IP: Logged |
Ruben Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2010 03:33 AM
You're right MyVirgoMask, I didn't mean confirmation in an actual sense, but rather confirmation of suspicions. I think there are other ways to confirm past lives, but astrologically, it would be very difficult.IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 3605 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2010 03:51 AM
Jeffrey Wolf Green is an evolutionary astrologer, and he's really big on the geocentric planetary nodes. He believes that the geocentric south planetary nodes can be indicators for pastlife experiences.I watched his Planetary Node DVD. He talked about the geocentric planetary nodes of Jupiter,Saturn,Uranus,Neptune,and Pluto. It's possible that the geocentric south nodes of the planets,asteroids,centaurs,and transneptunians can be pastlife indicators.
I'd pay most attention to geocentric node conjunct the Sun for it also means that there is a conjunction of Earth and the opposite heliocentric node in the heliocentric chart. This pertains only to the nodes of Jupiter and beyond. for example, I have Sun conjunct Geocentric South Eris Node in Scorpio, and my Earth is conjunct Heliocentric North Eris Node in Taurus. The zodiac signs of the nodes of Mercury,Venus,and Mars have some personal significance. The nodes of asteroids do too. That's not the case with the nodes of Jupiter and beyond. Those are collective influence. Only the house placement of the nodes of Jupiter and beyond have some personal significance.
I'd use only the Ptolemaic Aspects with the Geocentric Nodes 2 degrees for conjunction,opposition,square,trine 1 degree for sextile minor planet nodes 1 degree for conjunction,opposition,square,trine 30 minutes for sextile The dispositor of the south node of an object,its sign placement,house placement,and aspects could also give clues to pastlife insights. I like Evolutionary Astrology with its emphasis on reincarnation,pastlives,and karma. I just don't like to use Astrology to speculate specific pastlives. I also don't want to use it to speculate pastlives as important people. I also don't want to use Astrology to speculate how spiritually advanced a person is either.
I just like to look at themes and patterns. Here is some stuff from an article that has on Chiron's Geocentric Nodes:
The information provided through the nodes of the outer planets (including Chiron) will reference the interweaving of historical threads – that of both key personal tapestries and of the larger collective imprints. Chiron’s south node and its ruler will represent what has come before – a composite of the deepest wounds housed within cellular memory that remain at a vibrant and readily accessible, albeit primarily subconscious, level. The south node memory imprints represent the echoes of our most intense and peak emotional histories, those that have shaped our current conditioning (subconscious needs, fears, security patterns, and expectations) and which subsequently perpetuate our experiential realities through Chiron’s chart position (house, sign, ruler and aspects). The north node represents the compass point of the intended evolutionary direction, while the ruler of the north node is indicative of access keys, or in other words, “where and how tools” that can be employed toward the successful achievement of this intended evolution. The south node content represents an accumulation of stand-out memories (critical points). Revisiting these memories is like restocking the warehouse – as they are replayed, they are also relived. As these memories are (re-)woven into the current life experience (Chiron and its ruler’s chart placement), the north node potentials evolve. Restated, present experiences (the Chiron chart position) simultaneously recreate the previous experience (the memory imprints of the south node and ruler) and reshape the future (the evolution of the north node and its ruler, which lead the way to Chiron’s polarity point intention). Thus, the journey continues with an endless array of experiential possibilities. Chiron’s planetary north and south nodes describe the collective influence on the individual, while the location of rulers of the nodes in a natal chart gives further details regarding the personal journey. Chiron’s south node is located in Aries or Taurus for all of us. The north node is located in Scorpio or Libra. The rulers of Chiron’s nodes will further describe specific key influences, people, and circumstances that animate the personal evolving story. Archetypically, what is begun in Aries seeks to survive and thrive, and becomes the new status quo through Taurus. Choices reconciled through Libra’s evaluations (the balancing act) pave the way for a new social order through Scorpio’s “survival of the fittest” resurrections. When planets aspect Chiron’s planetary nodes their magnetism and expression become greatly amplified. Exceptional experiences and capacities are ignited through the planet’s signatures. Thus, a Sun contact will single the individual out in some way, igniting special talents or exceptional life circumstances. A Moon contact can bring difficult emotional or mothering experiences, a wounded self-image, problems with fertility, or can display an exceptional capacity for nurturing, caretaking, healing, and so forth. Transits and progressions by Chiron to the natal chart, or transits and progressions that activate Chiron, Chiron’s nodes, or rulers, will provide key or highlight moments, exceptional opportunities, teachers and teachings – generating painful and/or healing experiences. When Chiron’s planetary nodes are in contact to specific points in the natal chart, that planet, angle, or sensitive point will be a feature vehicle through which particularly intensified themes or experiences will ignite in order to prompt accelerated growth and healing. http://rosemarcus.com/astrolink/chiron-the-evolutionary-perspective/ ------------------ Raymond Andrews, President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 3605 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2010 04:10 AM
In synastry:Soul Mate Indicators in Astrology (Part 1) By Stephen M. Smith What some students of astrology are not aware of is that all of the planets have nodes because one can determine where their orbits intersect with the plane of the ecliptic just as one can do with the Moon. Some astrological software programs like Solar Fire, v. 5, include the planetary nodes in their computations. What all of the nodes show us is the development of the Soul over time within its current cycle of experience so that the South (Lunar) or Descending (Planetary) Nodes reveal the Soul's evolution up to the beginning of this lifetime and the North (Lunar) or Ascending (Planetary) Nodes reveal the intent the Soul has for its direction in the future. The Moon represents the emotional center of one's personality, its instincts, habits, and unquestioned existential assumptions; the raw, unformed ego-state of personality that serves as one's initial selfhood until (and unless) one can grow into one's individuated Sun self. This is the realm of reaction and untested, visceral perceptions of reality. Its nodes generate emotional impressions of where the Soul has been and where it is going. Aspects between one partner's planets and the other's South Lunar Node stir up distant memories of feelings and instinct past, indicating either an actual karmic connection from a previous lifetime or something terribly reminiscent of one. The hard aspects especially produce patterns of energy and curiosity between two people, as do conjunctions by the Luminaries, by excitement-producing Mars and Uranus, and by the ultimate indicator of karmic obligation, Saturn. Aspects to the partner's North Node are not so easily felt, representing what could be should the two decide to join forces over a considerable period of time. My uses of the planetary nodes have been inspired and influenced by the brilliant pioneering work of eminent astrologer, Jeffrey Wolf Green. Strong aspects, especially tight conjunctions, oppositions, and squares, of one partner's planets and/or angles to the Descending Nodes of the other's personal planets (Mercury, Venus, and Mars) are significant indicators of soul mate connection and likely involvement in previous lifetimes. The actual pre-incarnate contact between the two parties strengthens the experience of soulfulness in the relationship exactly because the source of that contact lies outside one's current bodily perimeters. This works in much the same way that meeting an old and close high school friend after an absence of some twenty or thirty years evokes not only the feelings and memories associated with those years together but also an enhanced sense of life's meaning in general through comparison of where we were then and where we are now. These contacts put us in touch with a deeper dimension of life than we could experience within either of those points in time by themselves. The reason we use only the nodes of the innermost planets is because those of the planets from Jupiter on out move too slowly to be of much use in analysis of personal relationships. Contacts to those nodes do indicate prior life overlap but more in the impersonal sense of membership in the same tribe, village, society, or era. Angular contacts to the nodes describe a potential (and potentially powerful) karmic connection between two individuals but they must be activated by strong transits and/or progressions (preferably some of each) or they will lay dormant and never generate even a single spark of interest. Even then the relationship must typically be held together by other chart factors for this contact to fully manifest. Contact by aspect between the two sets of lunar nodes are much like the angular contacts, also requiring activation, but the involvement, while still karmic, tends to be more impersonal in nature, an indicator of two people working together on a common project. By itself this does not indicate soul mate contact although it may reinforce other chart factors that do. So far in my experience, I have not been able to ascribe much significance to contact between planetary nodes; perhaps in time. All contact between planets and nodes or between the nodes themselves can have their particular meanings for their particular relationships better highlighted by locating their place within the quadrants and houses of the other party, thus clarifying their relationship to the angles. http://www.synastry.us/soulmate_indicators.asp The geocentric asteoroid nodes could be used too. The orbs should be smaller than the orbs with planetary nodes. ------------------ Raymond Andrews, President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 1615 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2010 04:30 AM
Dear Ruben, Past lifelines have been confirmed 100% accurately in some cases, though we cannot attain this in all cases. One of my most esteemed clients who is also a Knowflake has confirmed several past lifelines with stunning accuracy both through regression and through astrology. Here is another wonderful case, a Testimony of an Astrologer's Success from a Gnostic recaller: http://www.metahistory.org/Lydia/Recapitulation6.php So much wisdom on that website in general. The recaller is not making a single buck from these revelations. It is not possible to make this stuff up. ------------------ http://tamsoft.co.in/articles.html Readings IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 3605 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2010 01:28 PM
"4th house too, IC or IC ruler"How do you tell indicators for domestic environments,roots,family background and pastlives? some people believe that people could have pastlives as ancestors of themselves or roots in the
I look at my own chart
I have Jupiter,Mesopotamia,Atlantis conjunct the Imum Coeli I guess that this indicates that I have pastlives that involve being very religious. I could have had pastlives in Mesopotamia. I could have pastlives in Atlantis.
but This could also be having a very religious background. It could also mean that I have ancestral roots in Mesopotamia, and this is very likely. Mitochondria DNA testing shows that I have ancestral roots in the Middle East. I have share many of the mutations with ethnic Jewish people who are thought to be descended from Abraham who was thought to have been born in Ur which was located in Mesopotamia. Maybe I have Atlantean ancestors even though Atlantis hasn't been proven to exist yet. geocentric south nodes of objects are supposed to be about pastlife indicators too. If that is the case, then what does my Geocentric South Uranus Node conjunct IC mean? Does it mean that I have pastlives that involve being strongly involved with collective independence,innovation,change,unconventionality.
or Could it mean that my domestic environment,roots involves those things? What about Jupiter being the IC ruler. What does IC ruler conjunct IC mean? Does it mean having a strong pastlife history?
or does it mean a strong emphasis on domestic environment,roots family background the IC,Jupiter,Atlantis,Mesopotamia,and South Uranus Node being in Sagittarius that could be about religion,philosophy,other cultures,freedom
of course, I do have a multiracial,multicultural background that was also influenced by religion. Maybe I have a strong pastlife family history that involves being of many races,cultures as well as strongly influenced by religion also my IC ruler Jupiter is in 3rd house - so strong pastlife history involving communications,learning,siblings or domestic environment life strongly connected to those things? as for aspects to the IC ruler my IC ruler Jupiter opposes Saturn in Gemini in 9th squares Moon in Pisces in 6th so is this about pastlives where I was restricted,limited in communications and religion that was in friction with my emotional nature,important women in my life that involved emotions,feelings,nurturing,dissolution,idealism,mystical in the areas of work,health,and service or is it more about my domestic environment,roots which really strongly apply to me. What about other aspects to Imum Coeli which are also aspects to the Midheaven IC trine the transneptunian dwarf planet Eris - evolutionary intensification,highly metaphysical orientation as well as diversity,equality square the transneptunian dwarf planet Haumea - evolutionary intensification,highly metaphysically orientation as well as breaking off into branches,creativity,fertility would those things involve my pastlives or would they involve my domestic environment what about my South Lunar Node trine Imum Coeli, could that be about pastlives that include pastlife associations
could it mean my family involves pastlife associations or i could it mean that my family just involves emotional associations (after all....we're talking about the nodes of the Moon) It could be that they are all connected any way. I also have the asteroid,DNA conjunct the Imum Coeli,Atlantis,and Mesopotamia. How does that pertain to pastlives? Could it mean that have pastlives of having Atlantean DNA. What about the asteroids, Apollo and Aesculapia that also conjunct my Imum Coeli. How does that pertain to pastlives. Pastlives as a priest of Apollo and Aesculapius/Asclepius? what about them being conjunct DNA,Atlantis, Mespotamia,and Geocentric South Uranus Node. What about fixed stars? Beta Draconis Rastaban (Alwaid) is also conjunct my Imum Coeli by projected ecliptic longitude
"Impulsive, honourable, good for astrology, government, writing, sports, finance, the arts, accidents, wounds, blindness, criminality" does my pastlives involve those things or does my family do.....or both? I just don't see how we can differentiate pastlife stuff from family,domestic environment,roots if we focus on 4th house,IC,IC ruler as pastlife stuff when it also pertains to domestic environment,roots,and family. ------------------ Raymond Andrews, President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement
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Nephthys Moderator Posts: 255 From: California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2010 02:15 PM
I believe that we have had dozens and dozens of past lives. I really think that we are at a point in time where we are meeting up with many of our past life "soulmates" (friends, family, love relationships) and that the Internet has really sped that up, and of course enabled it. We are meeting many soulmates that don't live in our direct geographical area, by way of online communication, via internet forums of similar interest like LL, and/or social networking sites such as myspace and facebook. Imagine 60 years ago, there was no Internet.....we would only be meeting soulmates that we came into direct contact with by way of direct vicinity or travel. I do believe karmic relationships and reincarnation show in charts and such, it is based on the interpretations that we all know and discuss. I also have gotten to a point where I know when I have met a past life soulmate - it's always a stronger bond than normal, you have common interests, the planets pull you together and there is that special rekindling of of the tight bond/oneness, you just "know". (Friend, or love interest.) Sorry, kind of swayed off topic, just felt like mentioning that. IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 1615 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2010 04:54 AM
Dear Ruben, Past lifelines have been confirmed 100% accurately in some cases, though we cannot attain this in all cases. One of my most esteemed clients who is also a Knowflake has confirmed several past lifelines with stunning accuracy both through regression and through astrology. Here is another wonderful case, a Testimony of an Astrologer's Success from a Gnostic recaller: http://www.metahistory.org/Lydia/Recapitulation6.php So much wisdom on that website in general. The recaller is not making a single buck from these revelations. It is not possible to make this stuff up. @Nephthys and Raymond, good and pertinent points. ------------------ http://tamsoft.co.in/articles.html Readings IP: Logged | |