posted June 26, 2010 07:20 PM         

I mean a birth chart can show so many possibilities. This guy could easily be a teacher, a writer, a journalist who travels around the world, an ambassador, a politician, a gambler, con-artist - and many other things.. if we go by "inclinations" his chart shows.

(Actually he has a pretty impressive chart.. Very charismatic - someone you would take notice of in a crowd - and someone who has something to *say* to the world.
I wouldn't be surprised if the theme of what happened - was something like "being idealized at first and falling from grace or being publicly humiliated for his actions")

It's more about the choices he makes and also the opportunities presented to him throughout his life (these can show up in transits/progressions sometimes).

I think that if this guy had an opportunity to make money in a relatively easy way that he enjoys... he wouldn't have been convicted. But sometimes we "make" our own opportunities materialize. Maybe he didn't know how to - or felt he couldn't find a way out (other than an illegal way).

posted June 26, 2010 07:29 PM         

You can't tell morals and ethics from looking at an astrological chart.

I even tried to stress that point in another thread about selfishness.

I am also the son of 2 ex-convicts. My father spent time in prison for selling drugs for his uncle in Los Angeles back in the 1960's. He was an ex-convict and recovering drug addict when he met my mother.

My mother went to jail for a drug-related stuff when I was 2 as well as an attempted robbery with a gun lighter in a bar when she was drunk when I was 9 at a time when she was unemployed and on welfare with my stepfather away.

I don't think that people that spend time in correctional facilities are necessarily bad people.

I believe that what they did was bad, but I wouldn't necessarily say that they are bad.

People can change and can deserve 2nd chances.

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Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted June 27, 2010 11:11 AM         

Could you explain your answer please? I'm curious to see what lead you to your conclusion.

posted June 27, 2010 11:22 AM         

Ami

posted June 27, 2010 11:40 AM         

Its hard to explain but I believe if you have a good heart with good intentions and have a strong personal moral code and ethic, well that to me would count so much more than someone's past.

I've done lots of bad things and probably do have a "past" (according to other people) but I'm not ashamed because it made me the good person I try to be everyday.

posted June 27, 2010 07:42 PM         

I wish that I knew his birthdata, I'd checked his Ixion and his Geocentric Ixion Nodes

Ixion is a transneptunian dwarf planet candidate/plutino that has to do with 2nd chances, matters involving gratitude,lust/sex

as a transneptunian dwarf planet candidate, it has to do with evolutionary intensification

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Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted June 28, 2010 11:01 AM         

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Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted June 28, 2010 06:47 PM         

Thanks very much,
Ami

posted June 28, 2010 09:13 PM         

The whole lazy factor and the "being take care of" can be the case many times when you have a Jupiter-Neptune aspect, but I think that he experienced that on the most extreme level by being imprisoned, but I think that Mars being conjunct Jupiter and square to Neptune, this gives him more energy to work with than if Mars wasn't there.