posted June 26, 2010 02:24 PM         

Lately I feel like I'm Majoring in Pluto and I'm wondering if the intensity is going to turn down a notch. I use to not take things so seriously, I'm constantly craving relationships/friendship that have a deep nature to them (no superficiality to them), been going through a deep transformation on how I look at relationships and life in general (I have been taking transformational life classes and also been a life coach) and I'm a part of other people's transformation as well...

BUT sometimes I wish the intensity would just go on vacation. My Sag planets don't really like being in this constant state... a lot of times I feel like I'm in my own mental prison!

Over the last year and now this is what is going on in my chart...

Progressed Sun and Mars entered the 8th
Prog Sun squared Natal Pluto
Prog Moon will be squaring Natal Pluto coming up soon (really concerned about this one)
Transit Pluto was conj my DSC and Mars (@ 29 Sag) and now traveling thru my 7th
My Progressed Mercury has been traveling together with Transit Pluto for the last couple years and will continue this for some time...

I have a Stelliium in Sag with a couple planets in Scorpio so I have felt the present of Pluto in my life as it has transit thru... plus, my 8th house ruler (Saturn) is Natally squared my planets in Sag.

So, can anybody shed some light what I should be learning during this time/ what I should be doing with all this Pluto energy?

Plus, I would love to hear some personal stories that relate- it would be greatly welcomed!

posted June 26, 2010 03:17 PM         

Ami

posted June 26, 2010 03:31 PM         

Mars on 5 Sag
ASC on 7 Sag
Neptune and NN on 10 Sag
Mercury on 25 Sag
Sun on 26 Sag
and Venus on 6 Cap

I can say that I am not the same person I was before these transits started.
BUT that actually was a good thing. It made me come out of my shell.
It knocked me off my feet, sometimes knocked me down, was grimacing and grinning into my face saying: "Your little attempts of selfdenial and escapism into `reality` are a joke! I`m going to show you!And when I am done with you, you will be completely changed and you will be free, even though scared and scarred before."

What happened?
Well, when Pltuo was transiting my 12th house, I was opening up spiritually, then some things happened, and I completely shut down, blocked everything, even feelings.
I withdrew into a "real world", fitting in as well as I could, and completely denying the truth I already had seen and sensed.
Why did I withdrew?
I thought I couldnīt stand the pain, w hen my world shattered I didnīt think I could survive other than cutting off vital parts of myself.
It was actually nothing really big, but it felt big to me.
It had to do with me getting lost in a dream, a fantasy world, and yet at the same time discovering the spiritual world, it somehow overlapped during that time, when Pluto was marching through my 12th house, and my directed Neptune was on my Sun and Mercury.
I was having spiritual experiences, and I was building a whole lot of expectations and dreams on them. And then when I had to realize that these expectations would never be fulfilled in the "real world", my own world just shattered, leaving a whole lot of confusion, bitterness, selfhatred and selfcontempt behind.
When I eventually picked myself off the mental and emotional floor, I shut the door to all things spiritual completely, as I thought I had just been living a lie. I moved on, but my soul stayed behind.
BUT I somehow managed to "fit in" into the world, well not really, but I coped living in it, no, existing in it.
I had lost all belief and faith though, and life was empty and greay and dull. But I thought that was what it really was.
And on the plus side, life seemed to be "safe" this way.

And then Pluto hit my Mars, ruler of my 4th house, still in my 12th house. And then shortly after hit my ASC.
That was the time when my Granddad had a stroke, and that night, when my parents were in hospital and I stayed with my brothers at home to care for them, I faced for the first time in my life the fact that he would die (my great grandma had died before him, but that was a sudden death, at least to me); I did not think he would survive the night, and I was worried sick about my parents, cause I knew they were with the car, and my Dad sometimes has problems to stay awake if he has to drive in the middle of the night. Actually he once fell asleep in his car as a young man, had an accident and luckily survived. Well, he was being rescued by a stranger. But knowing something like that did not calm me.
I think it was the first time in my life I really, realistically experienced the fear of losing people I loved. At the same time it was only then that I really realized HOW MUCH I loved my family.
My granddad did not die this night, he survived, by a hair, and was in a coma many days and weeks, and when He woke up, he couldnīt move his left side. We rebuilt our house and he moved in with us.
Life completely changed. Being the eldest I had to really grow up.
He died two years later, and of course it was really hard on me.
Tr Pluto at that time was exact conjunct my Neptune and NN.
It made me shut down even more.
Why letting people close to your heart, if everyone you love is going to be taken away from you?

Then in 2001 something happened; I started reconciling with some minor parts of me. Actually I started realizing that I am allowed to dream (which I had been beating me up for some years for).
And my creativity came to life. A really creative phase started, the musical theatre conquered my life again, and I was really happy. I met friends online and then later on in physical life, I made my first trip alone, to Paris. I really conquered some fears and hesitations.
No Pluto, but Tr Uranus was conjunct my Moon at that time.-
It was a feeling like falling in love with life again.

Then the year after, only because of some positive experiences I made in that phase, I gathered my courage and spoke to that performer, that I had had a crush on for years, it was a very good talk. It was actually so great, I still get goosebumps thinking about it.
But then a month after that the boyfriend of my eldest friend died in a motorcycle accident. He would have been 25 years the month after that.
No Pluto action.
BUT Tr Saturn was conjunct my SN and opposing my Neptune.
Well when I had met that crush of mine Tr Pluto had been exactly conjunct my secondary Venus. But anyway back to the sadness.

I was devastated. Really frozen. And all spark of creativity died in me. There was also a LOT of anger inside of me at why something like this was to happen. On top of that some weeks afterwards the boy I had been playing with as a kid was killed in a car accident, and my brother was also having a car accident (but luckily stayed unharmed - our family has some good guardian angels, I tell you. And I am very thankful for them. .

But in that time of deepest grief two things happened.
First of all I FINALLY understood that it doesn`t help to not let people close, cause it only means that you rob yourself of good memories, the pain will still be there. So we could as well enjoy our being together as long as it lasts, and as I had to learn, it can be over in an instant. Nothing is safe, the only thing constant is change. (tell that a 2nd house Moon in a fixed sign).

The other thing was my friend. I adored her grace and her strength in that time, and more of all her faith. How she really believed that it was all for the good and how she just surrendered to what was happening, no matter how sad she was. She was the one telling me about the "grand plan" and that probably his life, as short as it had been, had been fulfilled. There was nothing left to do for him on earth.
It was strange. Years ago I had been the one, using great words about reincarnation,s oulmates and spirituality, but she was the one who proved spirituality and faith in her darkest time. I am still full of admiration for her.

I realized that that was what I had lost, and what made my life incomplete and empty. This complete loss of faith, nothing to believe in.
Well, knowing what is lacking, does not mean you get it back so easily. I didnīt. I coudl not force myself to believe. No way.

But then a lot of things started to happen 3 years later. I met a woman online, and we became friends (we still are 6 years after that); Jude somehow "fell" into my life / dreams, and that woman, well, she was open to spiritual things, but pretty much unknowing. NOt that I knew that much.
BUT she was suddenly having spiritual experiences, and telling me about them, and even though I had NEVER told anyone about it before, because I thought I just had made that up all these years earlier, and that things like these do not happen, and that you do not connect spiritually to other people, anyway, so this woman was telling me the EXACT same things I had experienced, and despite trying did not forget, and she had no idea about these things, as I did not have either. It was only then that I started to "investigate". It was such a shock to me that at least big parts of my dream actually had been TRUTH. A hard to digest truth for a "realistic" mind I admit. Well, Inever was realistic, even though I tried to evoke that impression.
But that was a BIG change for me, that was huge.
Tr Pluto was conjunct my Mercury.

The year after that I joined LL and suddenly the synchronicites seemed to just fall into my path, over and over again, dreams, telepathic knowledge, sensing of auras, everything that happened from then.
Tr Pluto was transiting over my Sun, and it did it for very long.

Actually I LOVED this transit, it gave me back my faith, it gave me so much, I can`t even being to describe. It brought my "dreamworld" into reality, at least parts of it, and made me realize that every kind of separation is nunsense.
Spiritual and physical are part of the same world, just different expressions / manifestations.

I am still on this path though, as Tr Pluto is not done with my Venus yet.

Well, that were my experiences. Did you mean something like that?

posted June 26, 2010 03:53 PM         

I am glad that I could touch your heart.
Actually I was feeling these things again (to a degree) when I described them.

posted June 30, 2010 02:19 AM         

same here

I will be happy to find an ADHD gal to settle down with. heheheheehe

seriously

Pluto is no joke

There is no discounting Pluto's influence. It's an evolutionary intensified object.

Transiting Pluto is currently in a separating conjunction to my Sun/Moon midpoint in 4'18 Capricorn and Moon/Ixion midpoint in 4'18 Capricorn as well as approaching a sextile to my Moon in 3'11 Pisces in 6th.
In Right Ascension, Pluto is in applying conjunct Sun/Moon midpoint

Transiting Uranus is opposing my Pluto in 0'51 Libra in 1st.

I am now doing my main life purpose, and I believe that Pluto is definitely involved.

On March 16, 2010, I founded the nonprofit organization, Developmental Neurodiversity Association (DNA) when transiting Pluto in 5'18 Capricorn formed a yod transit with my Sun in 5'20 Scorpio,transneptunian dwarf planet candidate/pluto Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio, and retrograde Saturn in 5'08 Gemini.
That's definitely a time of fate,destiny.

On June 3, 2010, I started Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. It already has 236 members that include neurodivergents, neurodiversity advocates, and authors of books about neurodiversity/neurodivergence. I am grateful for friends (including Lindaland pals) and relatives joining too. One of them is a biomed advocate,and I talked with her. She and I share some things in common. She is also a neurodivergent ,and she is open and receptive to neurodiversity. She told me that she knows a lot of people and has a lot of connections that she agreed to share with DNA. I am going to see her tomorrow to discuss more about the hyperbaric oxygen chamber treatment and neurodiversity.

When DNA was founded, transiting Pluto was in 4'38 Capricorn forming a minor grand trine with my Sun in 5'20 Scorpio,Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio in 2nd trine Moon in 3'11 Pisces in 6th. Transiting Pluto also conjunct my Sun/Moon midpoint in 4'16 Capricorn and Moon/Ixion midpoint in 4'18 Capricorn.

In the DNA facebook chart that I planned out, retrograde Pluto in 4'58 Capricorn conjunct/oppose Ascendant/Descendant axis in 5'25 Capricorn/Cancer which sextile/trine my Sun-Ixion cazimi.

So I'd say that my Pluto transits play a part in my living my main life purpose.

I had voiced my concerns to my vice president/secretary about my wanting to avoid controversy. It was in response to his comparing neurodiversity to civil rights for blacks. I didn't want to go there and cause controversy with blacks. I want to avoid antagonizing people. He told me that I am going to be controversial any because Neurodiversity is a very controversial concept. I said that this stuff can get us shot, and he agreed.

A few days after on June 18, 2010, I was called "nigger" while walking home by a guy driving by. It was the first time in person since the 9th grade, I was called that. It was the first time that I was called that since 2006 when I angered a former friend by refusing to lend him money in the hundreds of dollar. He was supposed to be this spiritual healer type of person. He and I shared Moon in Pisces and being born on the 29th.

Any way, being called a "nigger" that day didn't make me angry. It didn't bother me. I just thought of him as very ignorant. It also made me realize that I cannot avoid controversy because I am now part of a highly controversial movement. There is a strong possibility that my neurodiversity advocacy will get me called names worse than that. That experience helped me realize that I can't have a thin skin as a neurodiversity advocate. I felt that my reaction to my experience was a good sign that I can deal with the adversity.

Transiting Pluto was in 4'16 Capricorn exactly conjunct my Sun/Moon midpoint in 4'16 Capricorn as well as conjunct Moon/Ixion midpoint in 4'18 Capricorn.

Transiting Lunar Nodes in 12'01 Capricorn direct (lunar nodes regularly have retrograde movement)
square my Eris in 12'14 Aries R in 8th

Transiting Venus was in 5'30 Scorpio
squaring
my Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
my Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio
my Geocentric South Eris Node in 5'29 Scorpio
my Geocentric North Eris Node in 5'30 Taurus
(In my heliocentric chart
Earth in 5'20 Taurus conjunct/oppose Eris Nodes in 5'30 Taurus/Scorpio.....so Sun/Eris strongly aligned with heliocentric/geocentric nodes)

The exact Venus square to my Geocentric Eris Nodes to me is significant,especially with my Sun strongly aspecting. With Sun strongly connected to the Geocentric Eris Nodes, I am strongly connected to collective diversity,equality,discord,controversy.
The Sun conjunct Geocentric South Node could indicate that I was strongly connected to collective diversity,equality,discord,controversy in the past, and it could include pastlives.
Transiting Venus triggering the Eris Nodes is about the conflict of diversity,equality matters involving values and social matters.

The transiting direct Lunar Nodes square my Eris also indicate conflict involving diversity,equality matters.

Before Pluto's fellow transneptunians were discovered, I thought that only retrograde Chiron was in my 8th house and I wondered what manner of death would be for me. It only seemed to be death in connected to wounds.
Then I found out that Eris is conjunct my Chiron in 8th house. It could indicate that my death could be connected to matters involving diversity,equality,discord,and controversy.
If Pluto is powerful in 8th house, then there is no doubt that Eris which is a larger transneptunian object than Pluto is also powerful in the 8th house. It seems that the strong 8th house that I've experienced in my life wasn't really Chiron in 8th. It was the transneptunian dwarf planet Eris in 8th.

Eris in 8th house and my Sun conjunct North Eris Node in Scorpio and oppose Eris Node in Taurus in 8th seemed to show a strong theme connected to transformation,regeneration,death connected to diversity,equality,discord,and controversy.

The dispositor of my Sun-Ixion-South Eris Node conjunction, Pluto is in Libra which indicates the themes of equality,fairness. Using co-rulerships, Mars is also my dispositor. It is in Aquarius which indicates the themes of humanitarianism,unconventional,independence. That's my natural activist nature that gets angry about injustices and mistreatment of others as well as be rebellious. Mars is the ruler of my 8th house and is the dispositor of my Eris in Aries in 8th. That means that my activist passion can be linked to a possible death involving diversity,equality,discord,and controversy.

Just today, I was reading about death threats and neurodiversity. There are neurodiversity advocates that get death threats by people that don't share their views. There are people that believe that neurodiversity advocates should be executed.

Being part of the neurodiversity movement will attract me to danger from people that don't share my views, and there are some serious extremists out there.

My plan is to approach neurodiversity in a way that doesn't antagonize people. I am not anti-medication, anti-curing, ant-disorder, nor give people a hard time for what they do with themselves and loved ones when it comes to how they view and treat their ND conditions prefer a middle approach. I am a believer in interventions. After all, I benefited from early interventions myself. Without them, I would be low functioning. I also believe that good nutrition and supplements can help neurodivergents function better. However, I don't believe that interventions nor treatments should be pushed on neurodivergent people. I believe that they should have the right to choose how they deal with their neurodivergence. There are gray areas to consider like children having rights not be treated while parents want them to be treated. That's very complicated matter. I will not against the biomed approach to dealing with neurodivergence.

In other words, I am for a Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. approach to neurodiversity and not a Malcolm X approach to it.

I have Eris in 12'14 Aries in 8th sextile/trine Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius and sextile/trine Lunar Nodes in 10'30 Aquarius/Leo in 5th/11th which I believe reflects that my Neurodiversity Advocacy has the opportunity to be accepted as long as I am not over passionate about it and not infuriate people that don't share my views about neurodivergence.
The main thing is that to avoid the approach of "I am right and others are wrong" which is the main theme of Eris. I am always going to attract people with that type of mentality. There will be many people with that mentality that will confront me as long as I am neurodiversity advocate. My goal for Developmental Neurodiversity Association is to be an international organization that promotes neurodiversity all over the world and help make a positive difference in the lives of neurodivergents all over our planet. I want the nonprofit to be a big part part of the Neurodiversity Movement,and I believe that it can and will be. It takes both neurodivergents and neurotypicals to make that happen.

Solar Arcs involving Pluto and fellow transneptunians that I have going on right now

Solar Arc Venus is in 0'45 Capricorn square Natal Pluto in 0'51 Libra - valuing transformation, transforming relationships
Solar Arc Moon is in 12'09 Aries conjunct Natal Eris in 12'14 Retrograde - feeling the need to advocate diversity,equality , diversity,equaltiy involving women
so I have both Solar Arc pictures around 5 minutes of arc applying

Solar Arc Pluto will soon be squaring my Lunar Nodes within 30 minutes of arc that is used for solar arc (just 9 minutes away) - transforming associations
Solar Arc Eris will soon be opposing my Venus within 30 minutes of arc solar arc (just 3 minutes away) - valuing diversity,equality, diversity,equality involving relationships
Solar Arc Sedna in 11'04 Gemini is conjunct/oppose my Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius - strong emphasis on environmental awareness,compassion, dealing with abuse,betrayal,victimization
Solar Arc Quaoar in 11'20 Sagittarius is oppose/conjunct my Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius - strong emphasis on inspiration,creativity
Solar Arc Orcus in 1'26 Virgo is square my Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius - oaths,promises involving idealism,inspiration
Solar Arc Varuna in 11'59 Cancer is square my Eris in 12'15 Aries R - judgment,justice involving diversity,equality,controversy ...... judgment can lead to controversy,discord

Right now

I also have major transits involving Pluto's fellow transneptunians:

Transiting Haumea is in 15'27 Libra conjuncting my Uranus in Libra in 2nd. - fertility,creativiity merge with my independence,innovation,unconventionality
Transiting Ixion is in 15'34 Sagittarius in my 4th sextiling Uranus in Libra in 2nd - that conjunction. - second chances,understanding karmic wheel working with my independence,innovation, unconventionality
Transiting Varuna in 21'08 Cancer is trining my Venus in 21'47 Scorpio in 3rd - judgment,justice in harmony with my love nature,values
Transiting Orcus in 0'22 Virgo square my Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius in 3rd - oaths,promises in friction with my idealism,inspiration

I am going through a highly intensified period, and it's all about my life purpose as a neurodiversity advocate.

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Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement