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belgz
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posted June 28, 2010 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
My friend Nikki lost her engagement ring and shes pregnant and really upset..

Just wondering if this horary chart tells where she lost her ring or where it is...

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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted June 28, 2010 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message
I think her ring - would be a "possession", so it would be represented by the second house.
Scorpio is on the cusp..

Pluto is in the 3rd house conjunct IC.
Maybe it's at home (IC) - somewhere around books/papers (3rd house)..

However - some people think that only the traditional rulers should be used for horary.
In that case Mars rules Scorpio (her 2nd).. and it is in the 12th. If I went with this - I'd say it's lost forever. The 12th house is not a good sign.

But I'd rather go with Pluto.
Could she have lost it around the house?
Does she have any idea where she lost it?

:edit: The other thing is.. Her significator is Venus (I'm assuming she asked the question herself). Venus is in a minor aspect to Pluto (at least that's something!), but it's a negative aspect.. Maybe she will find it but it will be difficult.

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posted June 28, 2010 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
i think the lost ring would be a 2nd house issue as it is a valuable/possession. taking mars as the house ruler, mars is in the 12th house making a trine to the NN which doesn't count in this case. mars is also making a trine to the part of fortune. this may be the only hope but i'm not sure what this aspect means.

just based on the house placement i would say that it is gone for got. both of your friend significators (venus and the moon) aren't making any aspects.

even if this is a 7th house issue, mars is still this questions significator.

i could be wrong, but it doesn't look to good for your friend.

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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted June 28, 2010 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message
lol electric we said similar things.

But I'm not really on board with traditional rulers. I disagree with that whole idea in horary.
So Pluto means more imo.

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belgz
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posted June 28, 2010 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Doesn't the 12th house just mean that it shows it is "lost"?

Maybe it is explaining the situation??

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posted June 28, 2010 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
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belgz
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posted June 28, 2010 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
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electricmind
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posted June 28, 2010 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
@Dy-na-mi-tee yea hear you. if we take pluto as the ruler its conjunct the IC from the 3rd house. so maybe she lost it somewhere around the house, but outside. and pluto is only making hard aspects, and a whole lot of them at that. so, imho, its tsill not looking good.

@belgz
perhaps mars being in the 12 house shows the item as lost. but, the fact that mars is making no significant aspects, the chart is not giving a great outcome for this lost item.

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posted June 29, 2010 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
I figure since its belgz asking the question for her friend, mars is her friend bc dsc is in aries, the second house from dsc is the 8th in libra, so its a mars/venus affair. Venus is in the 5th from the dsc. So... What part of the house does the 5th rule? Nursery?

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posted June 29, 2010 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Im a bit confused. I was on the phone when i asked her if i should do a horary chart. I thought of doing the horary chart but then she said yeah i wanna know where it is.

So i did the chart. So who technicaly asked? LOL


I told her it could be in the nursery or near entertainment like a TV unit or something.

Mars is also in virgo should i look up virgo? She does have a study room as well. Im confused now.

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posted June 29, 2010 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
ok apparently virgo also rules nursery. So im assuming it is in the nursery???

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posted July 01, 2010 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message
Is this question asked by you or her? If it's asked by you the ruler of the 11th house represents your friend and the ruler of the 12th house represents the ring.

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posted July 01, 2010 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Let's just say I wanted an answer. so I asked the question. She still hasn't found it and I told her to look in the nursery

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posted July 01, 2010 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Let's just say I wanted an answer. so I asked the question. She still hasn't found it and I told her to look in the nursery

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posted July 01, 2010 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message
Your friend is the Sun and the ring is Mercury, her second house ruler. When you turn the chart Mercury is in her 12th house, Cazimi. Mercury is in Cancer, so the lost object can be in a dining room, in the kitchen, or near a sink or shower. If she has gone out near a sea or a pool she may have left it there as well. It's near the colors green, silver or cream.
The ruler of the ring is in her 12th house, so the ring is probably somewhere that she cannot see from the outside, it's hidden, like under a furniture. Mercury is conjunct her ruler Sun, so it's very close to her, but as I said it's not very easy to find as she has to look under, inside or behind things to find it.

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posted July 01, 2010 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Jupitersgirl,

You gotz MAAAD SKILLZ, GIRL!!! Beautiful to witness.

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posted July 01, 2010 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Winged Leo     Edit/Delete Message
Belgz,

Impersonal friendships are ruled by 11th, close personal friendships are ruled by the 7th house. So if Nikki is one of your best/close friends, then the 7th house represents her in this chart, not 11th. 7th house ruler Mars is in 12th house, she is feeling very depressed about losing her engagement ring and is angry with herself. Mars is also in Virgo, so she has a lot of nervous/anxious energy in head.

Her 2nd house (movable possesions) ruler is Venus, it rules copper, bronze, jewelry, cosmetics, clothes, etc. Very appropriate for your friend's case. Venus is in the 11th and in the sign Leo. I think her ring could be in a part of the house where she can invite her group of friends and have entertaining moments. And if there is a fireplace in that room or a source of heat, I suggest her have a look at those places. It could also be somewhere in her wardrobe, or in a pocket of one of her clothes.

Is she certain that she lost her ring in the house?

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jupitersgirl
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posted July 01, 2010 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Geocosmic Valentine! I'm trying to improve my horary skills!

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belgz
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posted July 01, 2010 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
She is a close friend but we don't see each other all the time. She has baby brains right now and can't remember anything. I'm going to send her a link to this post maybe it will help her better so she can see where everyone thinks it might be.

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