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Topic: Is it really over? CASE STUDY
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belgz Knowflake Posts: 1962 From: Planet love :) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2010 09:54 AM
I hooked up with my ex 2 nights ago.. There was nothing there between us and he said the same thing. But I just don't believe it... He has SA Saturn semisquare his Venus and we're both going through some Neptune transits that are probably making things worse and obviously our previous problems are the cause of a break up BUT!!!! I mean I have been doing Astrology long enough to know that he's the one that my chart keeps pointing to. I know you guys are saying stay away regardless but look...Here is my progressed chart next to his... If you look you can see that my progressed Sun is 1 degree from an exact trine to his natal Venus in 13 Aries. PLUS my SA Venus is exactly trine his natal Sun at 25 Taurus. Sun and Venus are both pointing at him and are aligned almost exact with one another. I have SA Jupiter almost exact on my IC which can show changes in family circumstances maybe an additional member?? Or significant move/change... It doesn't stop there. I looked at mine and his SR charts. I have SR 5th house ruler (pregnancy) in 4th (conceived). Plus Venus in 5th could show happy times or joy from 5th house matters and he happens to have SR ascendant in Cancer in 2011 and the ruler in the Solar Return 5th house! It's crazy but he's never loved or dated anyone other than me and Astrology is messing with my head.
As you can see I have SA Venus 1 degree away from my ASC which is the most obvious tell tale sign of either a pregnancy or marriage or even both. It is very unlikely I will meet someone and I don't care how crazy I fall for him I won't marry him unless I've known him a good few years. Our solar returns match up as well. Look at both our SR charts for next year. On my chart you can see that I have Pluto and North node in my 7th house which shows a transformation in partnerships and Noth Node implies it is a fateful union. Combined with Mars on the Ascendant and Venus in first ( SR 5th house ruler ) and Neptune in 9th which can signify weddings (spiritual union etc.) Not to mention Uranus in 7th and Jupiter passing by not long before this particular Solar Return.
He is going to go through his first Saturn Return which happens to be in his 4th and ruler of his 7th. We're both going through major changes that involve the 4th and 5th houses. My 5th house ruler is now in my first.
This is our ***Composite chart***
This is next year as well in JAN 2011.... The tradtional ruler of Aquarius.. 7th house.. (Saturn) is trine the Chart ruler! It is also trine Venus and Mercury and the Sun. Transit Jupiter in 3 months after this date will sextile the Stellium in Gemini. It's almost foolproof...
Someone please tell me I'm wrong and to quit Astrology altogether...
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PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3959 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2010 09:57 AM
I'd be looking at your own chart to see how and when you outgrew him. It's not about him. I'ts about you afterall. Maybe karmically it's just all done and that's just that?EDIT: I'm not a fan of looking at too many charts. I like to keep astrology simple. IP: Logged |
belgz Knowflake Posts: 1962 From: Planet love :) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2010 10:09 AM
Maybe not right now but next year which is only 6 months away shows a different story looking at a combination of charts between me and him. I don't think I really outgrew him because hes "grown" on me after 11 years and 10 years of being intimate.There's just too many years and too much history and I still can't trust anyone the way I trust him. IP: Logged |
racole12 Knowflake Posts: 410 From: Cincinnati, OH, USA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted July 04, 2010 10:29 AM
When I got together with one of my best friends of 12 yrs (which was amazing at the time)... and to make a long story short... it burned and crashed within a short time and right now we aren't talking. It all started in Feb so the astrology aspects are still happening...We had 6 Venus aspects going on between with using our Prog to Natal and and rulers of the 7th and 5th getting triggered like crazy... I think there was like 14 major aspects happening in all. (everything under 2 degrees) Then our charts by themselves where being triggered too- I seriously thought this was it. LOL There is even a lot of things popping up in the SA charts as well... EDIT: also with our composite, at the time we had Transit Uranus and Jupiter Sextile our Cappy Sun, Venus and Mars with Transit Saturn Trine those points too... Kind of lost some faith with astrology with this one. Sigh... IP: Logged |
belgz Knowflake Posts: 1962 From: Planet love :) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2010 10:55 AM
Well I guess it is likely I'm wrong. I don't want to sitting around waiting till next year waiting to find out lol. I think I will know my September because in July, August and September I will have a major focus on my fifth house in my lunar return charts so I guess that should show something.. Or maybe he finds someone else and moves on. He told me he met a girl at the casino older then him (typical Capricorn descendant) but he never called her but I know better and that men lie. IP: Logged |
A_L_F Knowflake Posts: 94 From: Registered: Jun 2010
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posted July 04, 2010 10:57 AM
quote: I'm not a fan of looking at too many charts. I like to keep astrology simple.
I totally agree with that.I'm not sure Belg cutie. I have always been impressed by your analytical ability and intelligence. You were the one person a long time ago that made me think i hardly knew anything about astrology afterall, and needed to learn more because i found you knew so much. And the first ever female to turn me on with your mind. But as Peaceangel seems to point out i think you can look too far into it, and look far enough to find whatever you want to convince yourself of. I think some areas of astrology are a little 'wooly' and adding progressions to SR's and natals, and overlaying composites etc etc is moving away from accurate astrology in my opinion. Again, i hope i'm speaking out of turn. It's difficult for anyone else who is outside your relationship with this guy, and is therefore dispassionate about it, to see the things your seeing because you've created them yourself to justify an emotional connection you have, and which i feel is possibly clouding your judgement. What i do know is he's one lucky guy to be the subject of your infatuation because you couldn't find more mind body and soul in a person, than you. Not once have i ever come across a better example of a total woman. But then maybe we ALL have slight biases, towards the things we find special. ------------------ Lack of Earth. Lack of Bu11shit.
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racole12 Knowflake Posts: 410 From: Cincinnati, OH, USA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted July 04, 2010 11:26 AM
I agree with keeping it simple... I usually look at secondary prog first and usually everything just echos the same theme. IP: Logged |
Nine Knowflake Posts: 533 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted July 04, 2010 12:09 PM
His pMercury goes direct with the next 12 months or so. With a 5 Lifepath, this points to a major life event. My grandpa, also a 5 Lifepath, got married during this influence.IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 818 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2010 03:45 PM
Belgz,Trines don't count in Solar Arcs. They are not strong enough to make an impact. IP: Logged |
racole12 Knowflake Posts: 410 From: Cincinnati, OH, USA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted July 04, 2010 05:11 PM
Sorry i'm going to ask a question on your thread...Hey Geo Valentine I have a question about SA what about Natal Saturn square SA Venus?... Natal Saturn rules my 8th and Venus rules my 5th... IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 818 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2010 06:41 PM
Hello Racole,The proper way to say it is SA Venus square natal Saturn. Venus is the planet that's moving, not Saturn. SA Venus=Saturn usually suggests some kind of grace brought to power and ambition, it can be the arts introduced into ones life, but it can also suggest lost love. IP: Logged |
belgz Knowflake Posts: 1962 From: Planet love :) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 05, 2010 11:53 PM
OK I guess I was being too "Virgo" with the details I am going to BOOKMARK this thread and refer back to it one year from now. I'm just convinced I'm right
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belgz Knowflake Posts: 1962 From: Planet love :) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 05, 2010 11:55 PM
GV,I was referring to my SA Venus and Sun in comparison to his chart. My SA Venus and Sun is making a trine to his Natal Sun and Venus. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 5435 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 06, 2010 02:20 AM
Belgz,maybe you ARE right. WE cannot tell you what is going to happen in your life. But still I don`t believe we will get involved with everyone with whom we share Sun-Venus aspects, neither in natal, progression nor SA. There has to be a little bit more than that. I have been having that with a colleague of mne; DW Sun-Venus-conjunction in progressions and some other things., But no we did not get involved, he was getting married and having a child, and I was not romantically interested a little bit.
BUT the Sun-Venus progression did have an effect in creating some kind of sympathy and affinity between us, which made it easier to work together. IP: Logged |
belgz Knowflake Posts: 1962 From: Planet love :) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 04:56 AM
quote: BUT the Sun-Venus progression did have an effect in creating some kind of sympathy and affinity between us, which made it easier to work together.
We are getting along like never before right now. According to Astrology we will marry in the period of July 2011 and July 2012 during which will also mean I would've fallen pregnant. Our first child shows a girl and it seems to be a long lasting marriage/union based on Magi Astrology. Same time all this is going on both my parents have SA Venus in aspect to their MC and AC. This represents a new addition to our family around October 2011. I am sometimes sceptical or want to be sceptical of Astrology because I don't like everything I see but this is something I do see and wanted to put it out there before it happens so I can validate whether my astrological predicting techniques are accurate or not.
Overall.. Sun/moon midpoint has a grand cross from 4 angles showing CHANGE.. Solar arc aspects VEN=ASC and JUP=MC shows new home/marriage/new addition to home (Child) Solar Return period 2010-2011 shows child being conceived (5th house ruler in 4th) Solar Return period 2011-2012 shows birth of child with SR 5th ruler in first and Mars conjunct ascendant could possible show a C section for birth and the first planet rising after SR ASC is N.N and Moon which represents the home and pregnancy/parenthood. Same period in SR chart Pluto and North node in 7th shows change in marital status/marriage. I've been doing this for 10 years now I am sure of myself LOL Though I did fall pregnant in 2008 there wasn't anything to show the actual birth of the child the following year, this time its very clear. IP: Logged |
acousticbob Knowflake Posts: 1 From: UK Registered: Aug 2010
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posted August 12, 2010 06:07 AM
I am only a beginner but I think that it is nearly impossible to analyse your own relationships objectively. There are always so many positive and negative connections and the importance of each one is highly subjective. Sorry I've not been more helpful but I can only really understand basic synastry adn natal charts! Hope it works out for you xIP: Logged |