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posted July 06, 2010 01:22 PM         

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I did a very small sample of synastry comparisions, specifically looking for aspects of the houserulers (conjunction, opposition, trine and square within 3 degrees).

The results are, well, not very telling.

Checking 10 synastry charts (for a start), the results were:

4-7
(with that I mean aspects between:
DESC - IC, DESC-4th house ruler, 7th houseruler - IC, 7th house ruler - 4th house ruler):

70% had these aspects

4th-1st
60%

10th-7th
70%

10th - 1st
70%

1st- 7th
60%

4th - 10th
70%

Well, one thing I noticed though
the IC or 4th house ruler was aspecting at least one angle / angle-ruler in all 10 cases (100%).
But then again the same goes for MC/ 10th houseruler, ASC / 1st houseruler and DESC / 7th house ruler, too.
So possibly it is coincidental.

All we can see from that, is that an interconnection between angles and angle-ruler seems to be pretty frequent, probably more than it would be likely, but ther eis not one sticking out.
Of course I would have to investigate a lot more charts to come to a final conclusion.

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posted July 06, 2010 02:41 PM         

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Well its a good beginning DD, well done!

It works for me at least lol
IC cj IC
IC ruler cj IC ruler
IC cj moon
moon cj IC traditional ruler
IC cj 12th ruler (interesting)
DC ruler trine MC and AC ruler
AC ruler cj AC ruler
AC cj AC

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posted July 06, 2010 02:59 PM         

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Well, I think it definitely emphasises / confirms the importance of these angle-aspects, but it seems like it doesn`t really matter WHICH angle is being aspected.
Evne though it probably makes a qualitative difference.

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posted July 06, 2010 03:40 PM         

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For me personally, the MC is always a hotspot. I think because creative expression is a must for me and l work and play best with creatives. My sun is on both their MC's!

I suppose IC aspects give a more soulful feel to the relationship whereas AC aspects are the 'look' of the couple to everyone else, and their interaction? MC must be combining career and love

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posted July 06, 2010 03:50 PM         

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I agree on the IC as being very much tied to the soul.
The MC is the outward expression of the Soul, or just outward expression. And since the IC sais where we are coming from, the MC is telling us where we are going to, in that sense there is a strong sense of purpose attached to MC, which probably is the reason it is tied to the carerr / calling.

But the ASC is definitely more than the look, even though it is part of it. It is your instinctive (and physical) Self with its needs and urges.
The DESC brings the partner into play then.

Interstingly my Sun and MErcury both fall onto the MC (and Sun and Moon) on that very intriguing guy.

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posted July 06, 2010 04:16 PM         

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DD, have you tried using the sidereal zodiac/old house rulers? I have a sneaking suspicion that the sidereal zodiac would be more accurate.

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posted July 06, 2010 04:29 PM         

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Amowls,

well, there are very different opinions on sidereal zodiac or tropical one.
For me the tropical one has always been absolutely accurate.
That is not to say that sidereal wouldn`t be effective.

I think the old houserulers would make sense, too. Even though for now I haven`t considered them. Maybe I will do another check including these.

BTW I do think that probably all zodiacs make sense in a certain system. But I have the suspicion that each zodiac has a slightly different interpretation.

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posted July 06, 2010 04:35 PM         

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Are these synastry charts for married couples? Long term partnerships? Girlfriend and boyfriend?

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posted July 06, 2010 04:39 PM         

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I was actually using celebrity couples, and of course all of this only holds if their birthtimes are correct, but I was having faith that they are. Anyway I was checking:

1) Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward
2) Ronald and Nancy REagan
3) Robert Browning and Elizabeth Barrett Browning
4) William Randolph Hearst and Marion Davies
5) John Lennon and Yoko Ono (who kinda had the poorest ruler synastry, EXCEPT for a strong emphasis on his nodal axis)
6)Paul Mc Cartney and Linda Eastman
7) Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall
8) Richard Burton and Liz Taylor
(while all other couples had much more conjunctions and trines with houserulers, these two had a very high number of squares)
9) Spencer Tracey and Katherine Hepburn
10) Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson

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posted July 06, 2010 05:23 PM         

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Interstingly my Sun and MErcury both fall onto the MC (and Sun and Moon) on that very intriguing guy.

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How uncanny... my sun/mercury is cj my loves sun/mercury/MC

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posted July 06, 2010 05:26 PM         

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Well, I definitely would love this.

Especially if Leo is your ASC, Sun rules your ASC.

For me MErcury is pretty important as it rules my 7th house, interestingly Moon rules his 5th house and Mercury rules his 7th and 4th house (his Mercury is conjunct my Mars-Neptune-NN-ASC-conjunction).

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posted July 06, 2010 05:30 PM         

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Well IF i am then my MC conjuncts all of it too lol

Mercury rules his 2nd and 11th. Sun rules his AC.

WOW that mars/neptune/NN/AC conjunction is amazing. Cool stellium.

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posted July 06, 2010 05:47 PM         

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Yeah, well it is a blessing, but sometimes one in disguise.
Angel, Atlantis, Wisdom and Lust (and Poseidon) are also part of this.

I was thinking about the MC - maybe this would make a connection somehow "solid", like manifesting in a visible way?

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posted July 06, 2010 06:36 PM         

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i can back the MC thing too. i just checked with my longest-term ex, and my MC ruler and his MC ruler are conjunct. we parted peacefully and are still friends, though living in different continents and haven't seen each other in person for 5 years or something.

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posted July 06, 2010 06:37 PM         

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I was thinking about the MC - maybe this would make a connection somehow "solid", like manifesting in a visible way?

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YES!! Solid from the start and trustworthy and dependable. Super glue

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posted July 06, 2010 06:38 PM         

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and my DC and MC ruler is both Mercury, and i have it conjunct my current partner's AC.

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