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Topic: Trans. Chiron opposing your Venus - I wanna learn all about it ;)
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Alvarella777
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From: Europe
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 09, 2010 02:39 PM
 
Hi folks,next year, I've got the following transit coming up: Trans. Chiron will oppose my natal Venus for about a year (all its retro- and forward-motion included). Of course, I've read about this in the books - and I also know that Magi does account this to a great love experience. As a matter of fact: I'm not a Magi-believer. I wanna know your opinions, or even better: your personal / real life experiences with that Chiron-passage. Tell us all about it!  P.S.: That same Chiron-transit will also conjunct my N.N. - oppose my S.N. (which is conjunct my Venus) Additionally, my Venus and Juno will simultaneously be trined by trans. Pluto. So: Venus (and Nodes!) will be strongly effected for over a year ... IP: Logged |
enchantress299
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posted July 10, 2010 05:40 PM
I'm going through the transiting Chiron opposing my natal Venus now. However, what I have of it may be fairly diluted or intensified since the transiting Chiron figures into a grand cross with my natal planets (natal Chiron 7th-Gemini, Venus/MC/Sun 10th Virgo, Jupiter/Uranus 1st-Sagittarius). In the applying degrees (around 28 Aqua-0 Pisces) I was very weepy emotionally, and I would cry at the drop of a hat for no freaking reason, even in front of other people. This especially happened for the space of about 3 weeks to a month. I AM NOT emotional like that (Virgo Sun, Aries Moon). However, I'm not sure that it was the opp to Venus that caused that (more like the square to natal Chiron). I did notice that also during that time period, I was able to make some peace with inner vulnerabilities and parts of myself that I hadn't fully accepted in the past (again, still sounds more like the square to Chiron). A lot of it does have to do with relationships however, as relationships appear to be my Achilles heel in life. Other things that have been going on: Trying to rebuild my career/dreams in life, namely by trying to find a new job (opp to MC; t. Saturn going back and forth over my 11th house cusp). I did start taking salsa lessons during the applying aspects (but with a loose orb). I would consider that a Venusian ruled activity. As for the "great love experience" that the Magi talk about. I have no idea. I met someone that I'm interested in around the time that Chiron was exactly opposing my Venus, but we're still getting to know each other, so I can't say whether or not that it will turn into anything major. You might have better luck with all the Pluto, Juno, Venus stuff going on. Well... Maybe not, I have that going on now too. lol. Don't know if that helped or not, but that's what my experience has been so far with t. Chiron opposing Venus. IP: Logged |
teasel
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From: Ohio
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 10, 2010 05:51 PM
I have transiting Chiron square Moon, Venus and Nodes, close to my Mars in Pisces (around 2*Pisces), trine Uranus and close to trining my ascendant, and it's been no picnic emotionally. I feel worse about myself than I did this time last year, and I've experienced loss in a couple of ways. (I'm trying to cheer up - I used to have a "there has to be a pony in here somewhere!" mentality.)IP: Logged |
Alvarella777
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 10, 2010 07:21 PM
Thanks for your answers so far.ENCHANTRESS299: oh yes. From what you describe it seems really quite tricky to separate all the specific influences of all these Tr.Chiron-aspects to your chart. Interesting also, that obviously we have some things in common - Tr. Pluto trining my Venus/Juno has almost finished its first round - my Venus/Juno are at 4° Virgo/Taurus. Pluto will start to trine them again from September onwards - and then a third time in 2011. That's what I was pondering on ... whether this (seemingly) positive, "boostin" Pluto-aspect might be weakened or unermined by that Tr.Chiron-Venus-interplay ... Concerning Tr. Pluto trining my Venus/Juno: I get the impression that during the first 9 months of this transit (which just come to an end) I recognized my own wishes and absolute no-gos in love, I learned a lot about these. In other words: I had several men trying to get to know me (and more) - which was nice on the one hand. On the other: I didn't fall in love with anyone of these. And the only man I developed some sort of light crush for.. I started running, when during our 2nd date I had to learn that he's still somehow (emotionally) involved with his ex-GF. I just ... pulled back. Without any regrets. This is just not my cup of tea. I recognized how "serious" I am about love - really. ;-) Suddenly, I also rather reject Sex than go for one night stands or anything ... I feel incredibly and surprisingly bored with anything "ocaasional". Don't know: I used to be a bit more, ehm, "easy going" most of the time. But since last year ... and increasingly so ... I obviously have a strong longing for "the real thing". I APPRECIATE that a lot - but I must admit: It led to "no sex at all" for a looong series of months now.... TEASEL: Hm - deep down inside, you seem to be an optimist, I like that! And .. well: sorry for feeling a bit "out of sorts" currently - if I got that right. Can you say so: "out of sorts"? I think maybe a square makes it a bit rougher than an opposition - a square is said to bring more action (also: negative action). And when Moon and Node, two very personal points, are squared at the same time ...the fragile feeling might be enhanced. I like the idea that Chiron is about to trine your ASC, though. All this screams: "transitional phase for your ego and image". IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted July 10, 2010 11:51 PM
Actually, according to my Magi astrology book, Chiron opposite Venus is not a particularly good time for love. They say that romantic affairs that begin with this aspect rarely result in a marriage. This is an aspect that is better for dalliances or flings. Since you also have Pluto trining your Venus, the negativity of Chiron opposite Venus can be greatly mitigated. Pluto can confer confers passion and lasting power. IP: Logged |
belgz
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 11:25 AM
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In the applying degrees (around 28 Aqua-0 Pisces) I was very weepy emotionally, and I would cry at the drop of a hat for no freaking reason, even in front of other people. This especially happened for the space of about 3 weeks to a month. I AM NOT emotional like that (Virgo Sun, Aries Moon). However, I'm not sure that it was the opp to Venus that caused that (more like the square to natal Chiron).I did notice that also during that time period, I was able to make some peace with inner vulnerabilities and parts of myself that I hadn't fully accepted in the past (again, still sounds more like the square to Chiron). A lot of it does have to do with relationships however, as relationships appear to be my Achilles heel in life.
Exactly me at the moment too! I have Venus at 29 Leo and Chiron at one Gemini so exact same influence and same issues you described. Only other thing is that chiron is trine my moon, Saturn and Pluto too.
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Glaucus
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From: Sacramento,California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 01:06 PM
This is what Solar Fire interpreted for transiting Chiron oppose Natal Venus.Your relationship with your partner is a source of pain either through your partner's actions or an external event. It is true that this person or event has opened some inner wound, but you have the opportunity now to heal the past and move forward. You need to be aware of the fact that the other person or the event may not have been intended to hurt you. It is simply that they have triggered a deep, sub-conscious memory which is causing you pain. In a strange fashion this present pain is a gift as it allows you to delve deep within your own nature for solutions. This transit can be linked to emotional pain, but it is also possible that your partner or a loved one is suffering from a physical illness. Either way it is important that you nurture yourself and your loved ones. You can use many different avenues to alleviate your troubles, ranging from simply surrounding yourself with compassionate friends, to exploring alternative healing and therapies. It is important that you treat yourself and others kindly as this can be an acutely painful time. Your dreams may also hold keys to your present-day predicament. Tears may flow, but it is ultimately a time of healing and education. In some cases it is possible that your partner is undergoing a transformation, clearing old emotional wounds from their past, which positively affects your life. ------------------
Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.
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Alvarella777
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 02:26 PM
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It is important that you treat yourself and others kindly
RAYMOND: Thanks for providing this interpretation. The sentence I quoted above is the one, that rings my proverbial "bell" the most. Since I don't have a partner currently (who knows whether I will have one next year...), this is the first thing that comes to my mind - and something which seems reasonable: With my natal Venus in the 9th house (which is more attached to "intellect" than to "emotions") - and furthermore with my Venus in Virgo (which CAN be picky, critical to a fault...) - and with that venus attached to my SN (exactly conjunct: I tend to be "stubborn" in the love department. I guess some "soothing" effect could come with the opposition from Chiron in Pisces. Maybe ... it will do me good to "let loose" the reigns a bit, not to be as critical and sometimes harsh (with myself!) anymore ... Hm. Maybe - in my case - it will lead to some renewal in the sense of "opening up more" and treating myself more tender... IP: Logged |
Alvarella777
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posted July 11, 2010 02:30 PM
P.S. - My birthday is next Friday (16th), and the SR seems packed with "love related" factors ... I posted a thread, but not much replies so far ... Maybe Raymond or someone else finds a minute to look at my Solar Return? I'd be extremely thankful. My SR-Thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/204463.html IP: Logged |
enchantress299
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posted July 11, 2010 05:40 PM
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Interesting also, that obviously we have some things in common - Tr. Pluto trining my Venus/Juno has almost finished its first round - my Venus/Juno are at 4° Virgo/Taurus.
Yeah, my Venus is at 0'Virgo, Juno is at 3' Taurus. quote:
I recognized my own wishes and absolute no-gos in love, I learned a lot about these. In other words: I had several men trying to get to know me (and more) - which was nice on the one hand. On the other: I didn't fall in love with anyone of these. And the only man I developed some sort of light crush for.. I started running, when during our 2nd date I had to learn that he's still somehow (emotionally) involved with his ex-GF. I just ... pulled back. Without any regrets. This is just not my cup of tea. I recognized how "serious" I am about love - really. ;-) Suddenly, I also rather reject Sex than go for one night stands or anything ... I feel incredibly and surprisingly bored with anything "ocaasional". Don't know: I used to be a bit more, ehm, "easy going" most of the time. But since last year ... and increasingly so ... I obviously have a strong longing for "the real thing".
That's interesting, because I've been going through the same thing. Lately I've been wanting to slow it down a bit and make sure I'm making a better decision than I have in the past. This is kind of antithetical to me because I have so much fire in my chart. Patience is not always my strong suit.  quote:
Exactly me at the moment too! I have Venus at 29 Leo and Chiron at one Gemini so exact same influence and same issues you described. Only other thing is that chiron is trine my moon, Saturn and Pluto too.
Yeah Belgz, I think you must have been born only a month or so before me because you seem to have a lot of similar placements. I've got Chiron at 2 Gemini. I have the Chiron trine Saturn and Pluto as well. I haven't been able to decide what that's doing. I've got too many aspects going on at once. lol. Right now (for me) it feels like the 'big picture' of my transits is waiting. I feel like I'm right on the verge of big changes, and if I'm persistent I'll be able to break through to something better, but I have to make my base secure, so to speak. Luckily, lately I've had the patience to deal with it all. Good luck to you with the transit ladies.  IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted July 11, 2010 06:15 PM
I've transit chiron in trine to my N venus/NN/mars. I cant say I feel anything from just that transit just now. I feel more from saturn which being in square to my venus/NN/mars in long time now. I'm tired of saturn and pluto. It feels more like they never want to move out of my life..I'm also surprised about uranus which could break the ice in the life but no no no... Not yet..For me I wish uranus and chiron togheter could break the ice.. For me chiron is an ice breaker as uranus and could change everything on a good or bad way. Now you ask about opposite but..maybe I can say more how chiron trine to venus works when saturn and pluto leave... IP: Logged |
Alvarella777
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From: Europe
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2010 07:12 PM
POPCORN, I like the idea of "Chiron as an icebreaker" a lot. It is an interesting extension to the usual interpretations/explanations of Chiron. Actually, I have difficulties with that image "the wounded healer". Of course I can imagine a figure like that, but ... it doesn't "say" a lot to me - understand? An "icebreaker" though ... somehow I see some vibe in that one! Like: It takes a lot of effort to break the ice - you can get wounded by doing so, exhausted, you may be all alone in a cold, austere setting, and maybe sometimes ... your effort seems futile. But: As long as you believe you can make it, you go on ... Anf finally, sometimes maybe surprisingly .. you get through!Thanks for that idea! IP: Logged | |
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