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Topic: The 8th House
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 333 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted July 10, 2010 08:51 PM
I wondering more about the 8th house.. Do you think the H8 is more about transformation or sex.... My 8th house is in Scorpio... I met a Scorpio a few months back, but recently we have became better friends and now have gone out on 3 dates... I finally got his info and I knew his sun was in Scorpio, but he also has a Stellium in Scorpio of Sun,Venus, Mars.. His Sun is at the end of my 7th His venus,mars,neptune,(sag) and jupiter(sag).. Are all in my 8th house. Then I looked at his, and his 8th is but of course LEO.. So my Leo stellium hits his 8th house. In his 8th is my Sun,Moon,Mercury, and Mars. My venus is in 7th... So Im wondering if this is suppose to be more about transformation, or hummmm.... Also his ASC/DSC Conjunt my MC/IC
I checked the Composite and and again the 8th is active. The 8th is in Libra with Sun,Pluto,Mercury and Uranus in the 8th. IP: Logged |
Alvarella777 Knowflake Posts: 217 From: Europe Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 10, 2010 09:21 PM
Transformation! Not barely "sex" or "death"! In my opinion, it's definitely also a "House of the Soul" - more on the "dark side of the Moon" than the 4th - and way more passionate than the 12th, that is: more lively.8th house means: Doing it all over again - again and again - several minor (sometimes major) revolutions, overhauls, renovations - "the passage is the goal" - you're never "done" with a strong 8th house-influence - you always try to make "it" better, different, more interesting, more intense - and you don't mind "killing" something (an idea, an old belief, an old sentiment) for the sake of evolution and truth. (Sometimes others won't understand that intensity - it may seem aggravating, draining, exhausting, if you look at it from the outside - but in fact: (r)evolution is pure delight for 8th house! (R)evolution costs them energy - but gives them energy as well. Says a 100% 8th-personality. I've got my Sun, Mercury, Mars, Vertex and Aura there. I've got Scorpio (ruler of 8th) as ASC and chart ruler. And I've got Pluto (again: Scorpio/8th house) conjunct my MC. IP: Logged |
Alvarella777 Knowflake Posts: 217 From: Europe Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 10, 2010 09:28 PM
quote: Also his ASC/DSC Conjunt my MC/IC
Congratulations! But ... be prepared for a ride! I had this once, our axis have been conjunct very closely, by 1° - him being the ASC/DSC-person, me being IC/MC (my IC conjunct his DSC, my MC conjunct his ASC). It was a very intense, but also very aggressive relationship full of illusions and aggressiveness and hurt. Still: It was intense - each of us took everything very personal and was touched (tortured) by strong emotions. (we also had my Pluto cj. his Venus by 2°, my NN conjunct his Vertex exactly) IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 333 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted July 10, 2010 09:36 PM
OH my! CRAP... Its the same way for us, he is the Asc/DSC person and I am the Mc/IC.. Along with My Jupiter conjunt his ASc and my Venus Conjunct his Dsc. It gets worse his moon conjunts my Asc and opposite my Pluto... Mad attraction... I think I do understand what your saying.. I kinda want to pull away, and just let it be, but at the same time... I just can't Im to intrigued... I wanna know more... IP: Logged |
Alvarella777 Knowflake Posts: 217 From: Europe Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 10, 2010 09:45 PM
These Jupiter- and Venus-factors sound nice! They might bring some soothing effect to all the intensity. I didn't mean to worry you in any way! When, in a relationship, the 8th is strongly emphasized (as it is in your Synastry, obviously), I'd just recommend: You better take that serious. This is no indication for a "lightweight, lukewarm, easy going thing" - rather the opposite is true. It is all about intensity - and it might get "personal" (your axis-overlay). There is as much "hurt"-poential as potential for ecstasy and real closeness, intimacy (on all levels). Hurt & Ecstsasy. If you go for it ... it might change you or both of you, in a way. Basically, you just should be clear with yourself: Wanna "risk" your safe current state? Then stay away and look for a more "fun"-bound thing. Don't mind being "all shook up" once in a while? Then dare to get a bit closer to that guy.IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 333 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted July 10, 2010 09:55 PM
IDK.. Maybe I'm feeling the squares, bc I have my doubts about him.. but at the same time.. Im kinda stuck.. Wanting to know more... So right now Im stuck in the middle.. I can't give, but I can't walk away either.. The intense thing, does intrigue me even more though. I think I do need some intensity in my life. I just dont want drama... Which I'm sure will happen.. I guess thats why I have my doubts.. IP: Logged |
racole12 Knowflake Posts: 301 From: Cincinnati, OH, USA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted July 11, 2010 05:23 AM
Lioness~I'm going through a transformation kind of like you mentioned right now with all types of relationship. Just in a place where I'm just tired of shallow, superficial relationships. I want the intensity, that deep connection, but not the drama. If the relationship doesn't have that tone I just rather live without it... it seems like my life is all about transformation, and what I can learn from situations/experiences and people. Right now I have a lot of Pluto/8th house stuff going on. I can't separate any of it as in which aspect is triggering what, but I believe a theme is a theme and that's what is going on in my chart... Like, I have right now... Prog Sun and Mars in my Natal 8th Prog Sun square Natal Pluto Transit Pluto traveling thru my 7th (when it was conj Natal DSC and Mars- geesh!!) And soon my Prog Moon will be square Natal Pluto. IP: Logged |
bopbop Knowflake Posts: 248 From: USA Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 02:49 PM
Another quality of the 8th house, besides transformation, is the idea of "personal" issues... sex, money, death, etc. are all sensitive matters, and tend to be sensitive matters that require some kind of exchange with others that tie them up personally as well (affects of death on loved ones, a intimate partner, a business transaction).So the 8th house is intimate associations to me, which are usually kept private. So this person may end up drawing out many of your personal matters because so many planets are there, and you may be a comfortable place for him to share his intimate matters (something that can be difficult for a strong Scorpio). At least, that is my opinion on 8th house, being 8th house Mars and not 100% like Alvarella (who has a great description), but my Neptune is there so maybe its a bit cloudy. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 2076 From: US Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 03:00 PM
I think the 8th house is everything that stops public conversation lol IOW, if you bring up an 8th house topic--the room gets quiet Ami
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bopbop Knowflake Posts: 248 From: USA Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 03:59 PM
Ami, just wanted to say I love your sig! haha.IP: Logged |
seeleah Knowflake Posts: 133 From: kokomo, IN, USA Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 04:21 PM
Ami, Now THAT is funny! IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 2076 From: US Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 05:12 PM
Thank you Bob and Seelah! The meaning of an 8th house stellium is a cow not being able to choose which pasture to graze in so he sits stupidly between the two x o Ami
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DD Knowflake Posts: 4959 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 06:00 PM
Transformation, imo, is the core of the 8th house (and I agree with Alvarella, it is the "dark side of the soul/ Moon).Transformation can be achieved or expressed differently; Death is one possibility, sex another one. 8th house sex is always different from 5th house sex or even 2nd house sex though. Unless Uranus occupies your 8th house and is squaring Venus and Mars, the 8th house is not a typical one-night-stand house, unless the transformation is being achieved in one night, of course. But even then this night could change your life completely. Of course your life can be changed without you having sex. Actually, it is also the house of celibacy. *laughing* PLuto and 8th house are about all or nothing. We always emphasise the ALL, but sometimes it`s the NOTHING, that changes us the most. Those things we cannot get. But maybe it`s just me, because I am having prudish Saturn in my 8th house. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 942 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 06:09 PM
Definitely transformation, before anything else. 8th house is not the only house that has domain over sex btw, but it does rule one type of sex. Source: Moon conjunct all 3 Liliths in the 8th house.
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A_L_F Knowflake Posts: 94 From: Registered: Jun 2010
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posted July 12, 2010 06:26 PM
quote: a cow not being able to choose which pasture to graze in so he sits stupidly between the two
That's funny i created virtually that exact saying last week and posted on here.------------------ Lack of Earth. Lack of Weakness. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 2076 From: US Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 06:51 PM
A_L_F is the author of the cows in the pasture. I wrote a song about it. You can sing it to the tune of "Torn Between Two Lovers" Torn between two pastures Feeling like a fool Grazing in two is breaking ALL the rules Torn between two pastures Hooves are torn and bruised, Grazing in two is making me confused. IP: Logged |
Dy-na-mi-tee Knowflake Posts: 339 From: Cloud 22, Jupiter Ave, Lalaland Registered: Jun 2010
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posted July 12, 2010 07:03 PM
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Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 2076 From: US Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 07:07 PM
If you encourage me, Dyn, I might write a second verse Ami IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 333 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted July 12, 2010 07:27 PM
Its interesting how both of our Stelliums are in each others 8th. We both separated from our spouses last year, and yes we do find a comfort with each other.. We do talk alot about the effects, and how each of us have dealt with it... We have been spending alot of time together. We talk for hours on hours... I can definitely say its uplifting. But it seems as if every one, wants to know whats going on with us, but both of us just kinda keep it private and to ourselves. We have had long discussion about everyone else wanting to know... We just said awwee lets just keep everyone wondering IP: Logged |
Dy-na-mi-tee Knowflake Posts: 339 From: Cloud 22, Jupiter Ave, Lalaland Registered: Jun 2010
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posted July 12, 2010 07:31 PM
Haha Please do! --Ami--
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Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 2076 From: US Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 07:35 PM
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Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 2076 From: US Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 07:35 PM
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racole12 Knowflake Posts: 301 From: Cincinnati, OH, USA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted July 12, 2010 08:10 PM
OMG Ami... I'm laughing my ass off. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 2076 From: US Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 12, 2010 09:07 PM
(((Racole))) x o Ami ------------------ I am two with nature. Eighth House Stellium IP: Logged |
Dy-na-mi-tee Knowflake Posts: 339 From: Cloud 22, Jupiter Ave, Lalaland Registered: Jun 2010
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posted July 12, 2010 09:41 PM
pffffffft I missed it Could you email it? IP: Logged |