posted July 14, 2010 03:43 PM            

I have my neptune in the 7th squaring my Sun in the 10th any minute now, and was wondering what I have to prepare myself for.
Should I dig the bomb shelter now or later?

Neptune has ravaged all my passed relationships with disillusionment and deceipt, (Neptune square sun synastry everytime!!) will it now ravage everything left in my life?

Any advice please?

posted July 14, 2010 04:04 PM            

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Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted July 14, 2010 04:39 PM            

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I have my neptune in the 7th squaring my Sun in the 10th any minute now...Neptune has ravaged all my passed relationships with disillusionment and deceipt, (Neptune square sun synastry everytime!!)

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With Neptune t. your own Sun, you will start to experience Neptune within yourself.

Once you feel that connection from within, you'll be less inclined to being seduced by Neptune synastry. You won't be looking outward for that Neptunian experience.

Then you'll be able to tell from the start which synastry connections have substance and which are primarily feeding a hunger for Neptune.

posted July 14, 2010 05:43 PM            

Jane, I have Neptune in my 4th natally.

Thank you both for pointing out to me ways to see
this Neptune transit in a different light. Emotionally I'm very uncomfortable with Neptune cause I always feel like it gives me hope, possibilities, and joy, but then pulls the rug out from under me.

Neptune energy makes me feel helpless like I'm going backwards and digressing. (north node in Virgo 1st house, south node in Pisces in the 7th house)
I know I need to make friends with Neptune eventually, but Im just scared a square may be a difficult way to do it!

posted July 15, 2010 01:39 PM            

The only outer that's done that is Uranus.

The square went exact the same week (!) I started working with an improv group. Uranus and the transiting North Node were conjunct. They both fell at the start of my 5th house. Day-um, that's some accurate astro symbolism!

That was a significant transition in my life. I didn't at all experience that transit in a negative way. It was thoroughly reinvigorating. A good time down to my nuclei.

Don't fear the square! It fills you with the planet's energy. That can be a positive thing. You're no longer dependent on outside resources for experiencing that planet's energy. You have it.

Now if it were, say, your Chiron getting filled with some Pluto or Saturn, then that's most likely going to hurt. Hurting and healing is what Chiron does. But the Sun is about being. You'll be Neptune.

What house does Neptune rule for you?

Uranus rules my 4th. I can see how that transit affected that axis for me. I brought my 4th house imagination and originality to my grown up 10th house. T.Uranus's location in the 5th house shows where that surfacing occurred.

If t.Neptune is now in your 7th, I'm guessing it rules your 8th? Forming a parallel with my own experience, we could say that the way you intimately bond with another (8th) will give you security (2nd). And this will occur in an equal, committed relationship (7th).

posted July 16, 2010 02:37 PM            

I think this is going to be a major transit for you, one that will help heal a lot of the confusion and pain you've experienced along your 1st-7th and 2nd-8th house axes.

7th bc:
T.Neptune is here, and so is your Pisces SN.

1st bc:
Your Sun receives the square and this is the house it rules, plus your NN is here.

8th-2nd bc:
Neptune rules the 8th, so pulls in that whole axis.

I say this will be about healing bc...

~T.Neptune is cnj t.Chiron. Neptune and Chiron combined show how deep and spiritual the healing will be.

~Your own history with Neptune shows that healing is necessary.

Your SN is in Pisces and Pisces rules your 8th. So your karmic heavy spot (SN) is aligned with your intimate relationships (8th).

I personally believe we're pulled to our SN only partly out of familiarity. The main attraction is to the deep lesson we, on a spiritual level, know we must learn in this life. We need to recognize and release only the unhealthy way we've been living our SN. Once we do, the enlightened expression of our SN fuels success in all areas of our lives, including our NN.

Your previous relationships with Sun square Neptune synastry...you were always Neptune, right? Makes sense you'd be drawn to that since Neptune rules your SN. Those relationships were opportunities for you to see your SN.

If I may be so bold as to speculate about your SN's desire ...Your Pisces SN longs for a loving, spiritual union with another (7th). Pisces on your 8th accentuates that longing.

But this is where it gets exciting! Neptune is in your 4th house. That fusion with another is actually a replication of your own sense of oneness with the divine. That cosmic wholeness pervades your deepest, most private self. It's there with you always. Right when you wake up, you have it.

Perhaps you don't feel it. Perhaps you're not even aware it's there until you're able to connect one-on-one with someone.

And perhaps you are so ecstatic when someone else helps you feel your Neptune, that you miss what's ugly about them, and you mistake your own inherent bliss for something they're giving TO you.

What this transit could do is help you see that when falling in love with another, they're not gifting you with Neptune. They're not giving you that one-ness you desire, so they cannot take it away. That ecstasy is yours to keep. It's you! The relationship your Pisces SN wants is one of two equals - both whole, both loving - who come together to share the riches inside both of them.

Alright, now I've gotta say something that may hurt a little. Your ex you mentioned on here, the one that's engaged? He's so NOT what your Nodes want for you, since he's, to put it bluntly, a scumbag. Anyone who abandons his daughter w/o a d@mn good reason for doing so (like he was kidnapped by a biker gang!) falls in that category for me. I'm sure even looking at him from the outside you can see he's undesirable. But you have a history together and he became a Neptune symbol for you, so on some level you may still want him? This transit can squash that. Maybe he'll get hitched, or maybe your feelings for him, w/o an outside trigger, will start to fade. However it happens, I see this transit as including you letting him go (he represents a confused use of your SN) so that you can clear your heart and soul.

posted July 17, 2010 01:39 PM            

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Once you feel that connection from within, you'll be less inclined to being seduced by Neptune synastry. You won't be looking outward for that Neptunian experience.

Then you'll be able to tell from the start which synastry connections have substance and which are primarily feeding a hunger for Neptune.

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posted July 19, 2010 10:35 AM            

Yes, my ex, he haunts me. Everyday. He creeps in and out of my thoughts. I am not in love with him anymore, I know this for a fact in my heart, but I am still in love with the idea that he was my husband and he is the father of my child. My co-worker was on the phone with his 5 yr old son on Friday (it was his birthday) and he was just saying normal father things like, "Happy Birthday, daddy loves you, see you when I get home. Ok, put mommy on the phone." I started crying. It was stupid I know. But my heart longs so much for that.

Anyway, don't want to get all emotional now, when I'm at work. I see how my ex is undesirable. He is a drunk, and a frat boy in the body of a 37yr old. He is immature, does drugs, and has no moral sense. He just wrote me an EMAIL last week telling me he's getting married at the end of July, and he'd like to bring his new wife to meet our daughter. He visits once a year, why does he have to confuse her even more with introducing her to this 22 yr old girl he just married. Isn't it bad enough my daughter has no idea why her daddy doesn't live with us like other daddy's do?
But this is him, he doesn't "think". He doesn't consider the harm he may be doing to others, he just thinks about what he wants.

Jane, I really hope Neptune has the healing effect you spoke of. Three years of this man inside my head, invading my life, sabotaging my relationships is just about as much as i can take. I know I need to do the inner work required so that I don't NEED or hunger for that Neptunian energy from others anymore. There have been times these past three years I've felt, though fleeting, blissful moments of wholeness, joy, and peace. I need to work on tapping into that more, and making it a natural part of myself. I really appreciate you taking the time to write as much as you did and care enough. I know you are probably a very busy person, so taking the time out to help me during this confusing time is saintly in my book!

Thanks again!

posted July 20, 2010 02:32 PM            

I'm fine with creeping you out.

What I feared was hurting or offending you by getting too personal. You have no idea how relieved I am that you didn't receive my post in that way. I almost deleted my post! Despite my worry, I couldn't in good conscience give a shallow analysis. In my opinion this is a HUGE transit for you, one that will propel you to a whole new way of being (Sun) and living your Nodes.

To deeply transform, this transit must be touching what's deeply real about you.

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he was just saying normal father things like, "Happy Birthday, daddy loves you, see you when I get home. Ok, put mommy on the phone." I started crying. It was stupid I know. But my heart longs so much for that.

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No, not stupid. Human. I go through something similar.

posted July 20, 2010 02:33 PM            

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There have been times these past three years I've felt, though fleeting, blissful moments of wholeness, joy, and peace. I need to work on tapping into that more, and making it a natural part of myself.

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Now is the perfect time for that. I think you will naturally tap into that part of yourself. The growth process may not be tranquil or immediately joyful, but I believe it will pave the way for those parts of yourself to surface and plant themselves in the world.

Isn't life cruel, the way we can long for something so long and try to achieve it only to be denied repeatedly? And then the timing is right and now suddenly everything falls into place. It's like, gee thanks, but where were you 3 years ago transiting Neptune when I first needed you? Probably off getting high.

I kept harping on you identifying yourself as Neptune because I strongly believe that's the key. I think once we recognize that the world we long for is inside of us, we're better able to build that world outside of ourselves. We see our power and can use it, instead of feeling used by it.

When your ex haunts you, that's your own vision haunting you. From within, you know about a beautiful love and want it here, in the real world. Up until now, that ideal has seemed separate from you, in the guise of your ex. I hope (and believe) that this transit will make you start to experience yourself as the source of that reality, and will give you partners who help you share that part of yourself.

posted July 20, 2010 02:51 PM            

I'm not sure if oppositions work the same as squares.

Theoretically, I would expect the opp to feel different, like the planet's energy is outside you. I think it tags you and asks for you to catch it.

With Neptune opp your Venus and Sun, I think it could create a strong urge for your Sun and Venus to seek Neptune out there in the world. The transit could motivate you to act, to express your Sun and Venus in a way that chases Neptune. Does that make any sense?

I've never experienced an outer planet opp my Sun. I did have t.Neptune opp my Moon though. My Moon is in my 10th house, so t.Neptune was in my 4th. Neptune rules my 5th house.

I had that transit when my mom died. So the obvious interpretation for how that opp affected me is I lost (Nep) my mother (Moon).

posted July 26, 2010 10:36 AM            

I'm so sorry to hear about your mother. It sounds like the two of you were very close. In your post about the coffee shop incident when your memories of her were triggered, I can tell by your writing how much she is still a big part of you and your everyday life. The way you described the event of the daughter adding milk and sugar to her mom's coffee was like it had happened yesterday, and was written so beautifully I found myself seeing it like a film in my mind.

"As soon as I reached the sidewalk I threw my arm over my eyes and started sobbing. A tiny part of my brain thought - How silly! Crying my eyes out over a scene in a coffee shop! But mostly I was lost to grief.
Soon a passerby touched me and asked if I was alright. By that point, I'd cried out enough of the heaviness that I could interact with the outside world again. I told her I was fine. I looked at the situation from the outside - me crying in front of a coffee shop while holding a cup -and made the obvious joke. "This coffee is awful!"

This made me cry, but then laugh too when you joked about how awful the coffee was.
I guess we all have triggers that catch us at unexpected times. We fall apart a little, cry, stop and laugh at ourselves a bit, and pull ourselves together again. I think those moments of sadness are our hearts reminding us we don't have to be so tough all the time. We can be sad and cry, and be vulnerable. Those soft spots and triggers keep us human. I think that's partly how Neptune heals, by nostalgia and memories. We relive moments through these memories, and the things remembered that make us sad, may one day make us smile.

One day your trigger won't evoke tears and stealing of coffee cups. Instead it'll make you smile to think of your mother, and the time you spent with her, and nurtured her through that difficult time in her life. She would probably remember that moment with happiness too.

posted July 26, 2010 03:35 PM            

You're so sweet.

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I think that's partly how Neptune heals, by nostalgia and memories.

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I think you're on to something there.

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One day your trigger won't evoke tears and stealing of coffee cups.

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