posted July 19, 2010 07:56 AM         

what do you think of the Synastry and Composite below? What is the POINT about this coupling, what's the "topic"? I feel a strong intellectual/mental energy between him and me (not necessarily all "peaceful", but different opinions on many things). Suddenly ... I also feel some more ... well ... emotional/carnal interest. ;-)

IMPORTANT: I don't know his birthtime/Ascendant & house placements. So you must ignore HIS house placements - but my houses are valid, so one can see, where he puts his planets in my chart.

SYNASTRY: (me inside - ignore his houses!)

COMPOSITE:

posted July 19, 2010 08:04 AM         

SYNASTRY

His PLUTO & KARMA cj. my VENUS
His APHRODITE cj. my MC
His VALENTINE & NEPTUNE cj. my APHORDITE
His JUPITER cj. my ASC
His MARS & VENUS cj. my MERCURY

but also:

His SATURN cj. my EROS
His SUN oppose my MOON

COMPOSITE

Wow - that clear-cut Grand Trine (cradle?) - the strong blue lines ... !!! I never had such a constellation in any Composite so far. What does it mean???

Most striking factors from my point of view:

Compo-MC conjunct my natal VENUS
Compo-SUN conjunct my natal VERTEX
Compo-JUNO & KARMA conjunt my natal SUN
Compo-MARS conjunct my natal MERCURY
Compo-APHRODITE conjunct my natal Sun/Moon-Midpoint

posted July 19, 2010 08:09 AM         

Also, the first thing I noticed was the tight Venus/Pluto/Karma conjunction.

I see a lot of sexual attraction in this synastry and the composite, not sure if that's the "theme" or not. Need more info & time to look.

posted July 19, 2010 08:20 AM         

More factors from the COMPOSITE - to his chart:

posted July 19, 2010 04:45 PM         

One of the best aspect I know between people in synastry are venus conj merk. I feel so strong and good and friendly connection with people there I find venus/merk conj.

posted July 19, 2010 05:23 PM         

NN conj Sun-Moon midpoint is nothing to sneeze at. I haven't studied midpoints too much in synastry but that's the most important one, and of course NN aspects, particular conjunctions imply a destined interaction that will lead to further evolution of the self.

Sounds like something's cooking! Just take it slow, he has some baggage.

posted July 19, 2010 05:37 PM         

Wait.

Wait for him to make the first move. It seems like he is beginning slowly. Allow that to happen. Just as there are several aspects that look great, there are others that suggest you both want to kind of control each other. Don't start off that way with him, let him be the one to begin.

His Pluto conjuncts your Venus, you need to wait and see if your Venus affects him as much as we all know his Pluto affects your Venus.

Your Sun trines his Jupiter, he's really going to like that. You can make each other happy and have fun with that aspect, you feel like a gift to each other. Your Neptune squares his Mercury - communication could be confused, dreamy and possibly deceptive so be cautious, this will help you to know why you may not always understand each other.

His Neptune squares your Venus, another place to cautious. This almost always makes the couple feel like things are perfectly dreamy and the ultimate romantic situation but always remain clear within yourself that if you feel a hint of deception or possibility of it, you will probably be correct or the reverse, don't deceive him either.

That's all I have time for, but I urge you strongly to allow him to make the first move. I think that he will make it, just be open to and responsive to his approaches.

Good luck and have lots of fun.

posted July 19, 2010 05:47 PM         

But my SR (as I mentioned, my birthday was 3 days ago) looks so miracoulously promising in "love matters" ... that it buffled me - and I posted a thread on my SR:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/204463.html

Most astounding: My SOLAR RETURN came almost simultaneoulsy with my VENUS RETURN a couple of days ago ... Maybe that's why I am drawing such "quick conclusions" now - some sort of "emotional impatience"? (haha)

I know that I must be careful for the next 1.5 years - via TRANSITS I currently got tr. Pluto trining my Venus & Juno !!! - but at the same time: tr. Neptune squaring my ASC/DSC!!!

posted July 19, 2010 05:54 PM         

° his Pluto conjunct your Venus; Venus rules your 7th house
- definitely a powerful magnetic pull towards him, maybe even overpowering at times.

° His Mars and Venus conjunct your Mercury; does Mercury still rule your 8th house? Well, it also feels into your 8th house
so MORE Plutonic vibes through the 8th house. With his Venus and Mars there, you could become very passionate, maybe even obsessive. He could bring very deep transformations into your life, not sure how much you would like that.
With your Mercury there, maybe you are talking about profound things?
Maybe you try to analyse things and be a bit cerebral, though deep about them, while he is listening more to some kind of "animal - instinct" (his Venus and Mars).
On a side note. Jude Law`s Mercury is conjunct my Venus/Mars-mp, like your Mercury is conjunct this guy`s Venus/Mars. I can only say that the thing that absolutely caught my attention and interest was his voice.
Does this guy like your voice? Or maybe he feels attracted to the way you are thinking?

his Jupiter is on your ASC. That feels nice and generous and benevolent, and would actually be awfully nice for a friendship I think.

Your Mercury squares his Neptune, right?
Hmm, things may not be so clear, but he could be rather confusing, or sending you mixed messages, or you donīt get what he is really trying to say. Confusing.

HIs Mercury squares your Pluto, is that right?
So more stress on the communication between the two of you. You may be overwhelming for his intellect, maybe he feels you are too probing?
Very powerful. ON the other hand he could also be mesmerised by your way of thinking, even though probably with the square he would feel challenged by you in this regard.

Your Uranus square his Saturn - yes I know pretty generational. Still do you represent a challenge to him? Do you in some way shake up some old ways for him?

His Sun opposes your Moon, if I see it right, with his Sun being in your 7th house. This is probably a very potent attraction-aspect, even though again, it is more an attraction based on differences than similiarity.

Your Venus square his Neptune - very romantic, dreamy, may give a feeling of He is the ONE. But with the square often these feelings are not really founded in reality. Disappointments, deception, elusive behaviour is possible, not guaranteed though.
You being the Venus person you are probably a bit under his spell and may wear glasses that are just a little bit TOO rose-coloured.

His Saturn trines your Venus, is that right? That might give a bit more stability and groundedness, but I wonder how strong a trine can be as opposed to pretty challenging Neptunian aspects.

Also donīt you have a Neptunian transit right now. If so, I`d be extra careful about the challenging Neptune-aspects then.

posted July 19, 2010 06:06 PM         

So: 2 very promising transit-aspects - and 2 which (should) make me cautious!

Hmmm.

Concerning the VENUS-NEPTUNE-square between him and me ... actually we both have Neptune-square-Venus in our own single natal charts. (Only that with him it's not only Venus, it's also his Mars squaring his own Neptune.)

posted July 19, 2010 06:14 PM         

with the Neptune-transits I would be careful and watching closely how things develop in their own pace without pushing anything.
It doesn`t mean that he WILL deceive you or something like that, but you (actually you both) might not see each other as clearly as you usually (without Neptune) would.
You both have Neptunian aspects natally. Mars-Neptune and Venus-Neptune, is that right?
That is a huge source of attraction actually. A Mars-Venus "connection" under the title of Neptune.
Could feel almost magical.
But really, Neptune is a dangerous planet, it can be wonderfully magical and romantic and soulmatey, or it can just MAKE YOU BELIEVE it is all that without any founding in real life.
That is what you have to observe closely, and don`t let wishful thinking lead you!

About the difference - they can be stimulating and fascinating. But after the first fascination fades a bit, they could also be a source of irritation and anger.
The question is how well do both of you deal with different viewpoints?
Probably it is important that especially he can really deal with different views (as he is the Saturn in your SAturn-uranus-square).

What I see is a lot of romantic vibe (with a hint of too much dreamyness and maybe even illusions), passionateness, which is especially fuelled by the intellect and some good friendly and friendship aspects (His Venus and Mars conjunct your Mercury; his Jupiter on your ASC and trine your Sun for example).
Actually as of now I might think that a friendship (if you can tolerate the differences) between you would have more chances to last than a romantic relationship or sexual affair. Even though the attraction would be probably there.
But of course I could be absolutely wrong.

What I miss a little bit are strong or dominant aspects like (for a partnership):
Venus-Sun
Venus-Moon
Venus-ASC
Moon-ASC
Sun-ASC

You do have the very significant Sun-Moon-aspect though along with a Sun/Moon-mp aspect.

Also Saturn and nodal aspects seem to be important for increasing the likelihood that a connection will have staying power.
Pluto can glue peoiple together, too, but somehow in a more intense way.

posted July 19, 2010 07:22 PM         

This is the main reason why you need to allow him to approach you:

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He's quite on the "conervative" side in many ways (not only due to his age, he's 10 years older than me). I am more ... excentric and a bit "on the wild side" compared to him. (Well: that sounds huge, I hope you know, what I mean ... I am a reasonable person, but quite a modern woman, rather the intellectual type, sometimes with a sharp tongue and a lust for life and the good things in life (still very much into music, looking and behaving younger than some other women of my age and all...) I guess, these "differences" are definitely some part of the fascination ...

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There are aspects from one chart to another that suggests you both want to control each other and power struggles will ensue. Your Uranus squares his Saturn. This is "the conservative against the liberal" the old against the new, the antique vs. avant garde. A 10 year difference is very real. When you say he's conservative that means he's got very conservative values. Especially right now he needs to be "the man" and even though that doesn't even sit well with me as a liberated woman, it's a very strong reality. I'm simply trying to give you a tip so that you don't end up pushing him away before you even have him.

posted July 19, 2010 07:59 PM         

Ami

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I am two with nature.

posted July 19, 2010 09:57 PM         

I can not say that works on this way in the reality.

I had this one, my stellium merk conj uranus conj pluto square my exhusbands saturn. We was togheter in 15 year. If he lived today I want to go back to him. He are the best man I ever got. I still feel some sorrow but he is not here on the earth.

His sun square my moon and his moon square my venus/nn/mars stellium and our composite was hard aspected from saturn so... and we had so many good year togheter..

posted July 20, 2010 04:41 AM         

Yes, it is, true to both planet`s symbolism, and thus also working in reality. If it was not, either astrology is just crap or astrologers of the last thousands of years have had the symbolism all wrong all the way (I know that Uranus has just been discovered some hundred years ago; but the symbolism was applied to this planet, as it was to all the others, too, consistent to their mythology).
So I strongly disagree with your statement. Saturn-Uranus is symbolizing: "old vs new".

BUT
of course Saturn-Uranus is not the only aspect in a chart. And for a personal relationship the aspects of the personal planets are far more important.
But if you see disbalances in the aspects with the personal planets, or that one person is really traditional, as judging from the natal chart, while the other is really unconventional,in such a case the Saturn-Uranus-square can be VERY uncomfortable.

It seems that you and your husband had strong personal aspects, even though they were challenging.
I still have to make my mind up about the squares between personal planets. But so far I think that they very often relate to a strong attraction, they grab your attention, even though the energy can sometimes be so high that it could switch into being painful.
But to get a clearer picture I would have to see your chart and the involvement of your chartrulers and angles.
Also, hard Saturn can give a feeling of fatedness, and give a lot of glue. Not in the easy sense, it can get weary at times, but often the time is in some kind of way unbreakable. Even if you break up with someone you share strong and challenging Saturn synastry with, they might never completely leave your thoughts.

posted July 20, 2010 07:22 AM         

how are the orbs of your Uranus-Saturn-square, it looks very wide.
I forgot to mention,t hat with Saturn-Uranus I like to keep the orbs VERY tight, within 2-3 degrees, as both are pretty slow moving.

I like that Mars-Jupiter-conjunction, very enthusiastic, energetic, encouraging.