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posted July 20, 2010 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eskimono     Edit/Delete Message
ps - I am not a **** , this is the sum total of my love life!!!

oh, apart from one other......but I never got his name, never mind his birthday!

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posted July 20, 2010 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
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posted July 20, 2010 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm, I think we got it all wrong with Arthur. He is no 4.
How could I NOT see the Sun-Neptune-conjunction? I wonder.
Was there Neptune on my eyes?

Anyway, not consumated is a very Neptunian phrase. Also you gave us the good hint of him being older.


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posted July 20, 2010 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,

I am really on the fence about people born so close to each other.
Of course their astrology should work just like any other astrology, so all the personal planetary conjunctions should work.
BUT from my own experience, I have known a boy in school, who had been born on the same day as me, and I think we even shared the same ASC or he may have been Scorpio-ASC.
Anyway I thought he was SOOO BORING.
I remember that at one time he was very much into me (well, actually it was for quite some years. lol), but I was so not interested, you know?

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posted July 20, 2010 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm, so:

Arthur: 4) powerful sustained connection

Eddie: 2) relationship

Marvin: 3) fling

Samson: 1) ongoing persistent flirtation

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posted July 20, 2010 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
OK --I am a squirrel with a nut.


I think Arthur is the fling who lives in another country.
I think there was tremendous chemistry BUT your Sun was blinded by his Neptune and when the chemistry was over-- so was the relationship


I think Samson was the attraction which did not go anywhere. You have the Jupiter /Mars conjunction.
You felt comfortable with him (Moon conjunct ASC) You had good banter(Mars conjunct Mercury)
Your moon and sun are conjunct which is an attraction .
However, it was not enduring.
I think Marvin is the one you cannot get out of your heart and soul.Your head says no but your heart says "Yes" All the connections remind me of my g/f's one heartfelt love.
The synastry looks similar. He is just "it " for her .

That leaves Eddie for the relationship that endured lol.


Ami
PS I am always open to criticism of my "anaylsis" lol


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posted July 21, 2010 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,

I was thinking the same about Arthur, but then I read that she was mentioning that the powerful connection that led to nowwhere was with a man who was older.
The only one significantly oldr than her is Arthur. That is why I changed my mind, but it still makes sense astrologically.
There is a Sun-Neptune-conjunction.


And it is her Neptune squaring his Mercury, probably Moon and maybe Sun.

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posted July 21, 2010 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
DD,what is interesting,to me, with Marvin is that it is similar to my g/f's synastry with her " soul mate".
He has gone in and out of her life for 10 years but she says he is the only one who had that special place in her heart.
They were born close in time, too.

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posted July 21, 2010 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,

maybe it depends on the natals, and I am just not my own soulmate, which explains that I didn`t was attracted to that friend of mine.

I mean, what have I got natally?

° Sun conjunct Mercury
° Moon quinkunx Saturn
° Venus square MC
° Venus square Pluto
° Mars conjunct Neptune
° ASC conjunct Mars
° ASC conjunct Neptune
° ASC conjunct NN
° ASC sextile Pluto
° MC conjunct Pluto
° MC square Venus
° MC sextile Mars

There really are not such strong "soulmate-connections!" with myself, are there?
And the strongest seem to be with the ASC.
Now, the ASC person usually jsut is there and embodies something that the other person might find appealing or not.
In this case my physicality triggered his Mars, his Neptune, his NN - maybe that would explain, why he WAS intrigued by me?
WE have known each other for a very long time, since we were maybe 6 years old, and I remember he was the first person to tell me that I was beautiful. Actually I do remember that. We were taking a walk and he was giving me a yellow flower, saying: "That doesn`t mean I am in love with you. I just think you are beautiful."
Actually thinking of that, that was kinda cute, wasn`t it?
Some years down the line, when we were about 15 years old I had to put down my foot though and tell him very clearly that I am NOT interested.


So, if I look at this I don`t see:
- Sun/Moon
- Sun/Venus
- Sun/Mars
- Moon/Venus
- Moon/Mars
- Venus/Mars
- Venus / ASC
- Moon / ASC

So, no, I probably would not be all that attracted to myself.
I also do not see Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon or Venus (it does square Mars by 6 degree though), so nothing to enhance a romantic or personal relationship with myself.

I guess I am just not that much into myself.

This is a bit crazy, to check your natal chart as if it was a synastry chart though.

Of course the personal planets would all be conjunct each other. Sun/Sun, Moon/Moon, Mercury /Mercury, Venus/ Venus and Mars/Mars, but these alone would probably not facilitate an attraction (maybe Mars/Mars).


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posted July 21, 2010 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I don't get checking to see if you are your OWN soul mate but whatever floats your boat


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posted July 21, 2010 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I was talking about that boy who was born EXACTLY the same day as I was, so all the planets were of course at exactly the same spots, which means that our SYNASTRY chart is a perfect mirror of both natals.

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posted July 21, 2010 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I was just kidding, Sweet one !

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posted July 21, 2010 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I wasn`t sure this time, Ami. I should have known though.
Well, I think me having to pack all these things and putting them into boxes, MANY BOXES, for my move next month, really really affects my humour-nerve badly.

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posted July 21, 2010 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I am sorry, Sweetie. I really value you a LOT. Humor can hit wrong ,sometimes.
Please,forgive me ,DD.

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posted July 21, 2010 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,

no need to apologize. You were being funny, I just had a CApricornesque episode, won`t happen again. Promise.

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Is Marvin the one who drinks too much etc and you can't figure out why you feel what you do for him?

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posted July 21, 2010 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eskimono     Edit/Delete Message
No, that would be Arthur, bless him.

Marvin is the one you would want to shag, not Arthur.

Though Arthur does have a lot of success with the ladies considering he is not conventionally attractive and bald!

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posted July 21, 2010 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Yay I got it almost right

Astrology really works!

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posted July 21, 2010 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Let`s see if we can identify the central aspects to each connection:


(1) Eddie - long term relationship:

°Saturnian aspects for longevity:
his Sun opposite your Saturn
his Saturn conjunct your MC
your Saturn square his Mars

(those are also irritation - aspects)


°longevity alone is nothing, if you don`t have shared affections (Moon and Venus is the place to look for I guess):
his Sun conjunct your Venus
Your Moon square his Venus

Love planet Venus is aspecting identity planets for both of you, even though in the second case it is not all honey and chocolate

° partnership aspects (for example Sun/Moon, Sun/ASC, Moon/ASC)
you have Sun - Moon - trine

° passion aspects, (Pluto in aspect to Sunm, Moon, Venus, Mars, ASC)
his Sun square your Pluto
your Venus square his Pluto

Pluto aspecting identity planets for both of you; very intense, but probably very complicated, irritating, powerstruggles, yet works as glue, too
Power is balanced though, as both contribute Pluto


° Happiness, friendship, support, encouragement (Jupiter)
Where are the Jupiter-aspects?
If Jupiter is lacking, ther emay also be a lack of growth, and the relationship could stagnate.

(2) Samson - the fling, hot, shortlived.

What do we expect?

URANUS big time, probably in challenging aspect to Venus, Mars, Sun, Moon or ASC. sometimes Mercury works, too, especially if there was verbal-erotic banter

A lack of Saturn

A lack of true partnership aspects; affectionate aspects may be present though, but probably not that frequent.

Your Uranus opposes his Mercury; His Mercury conjunct your Mars - Check for the Uranian thing.

no Saturn

no Venus aspects (no love?)

partnership aspects:
There actually is the strong compatible Sun-Moon-conjunction.
Probably it couldn`t bloom, because it didn`t get any help by Venus or Jupiter or even Saturn.

(3) Arthur, powerful, heartbreaking, unfulfilled, and probably lacking sexually despite existing attraction.

Hmm, this one is actually not that easy.


What do we expect?

Not that strong Saturn, but probably strong Pluto (powerful connection, but lacking Saturn`s stability)

strong sexual aspects (Venus/Mars to Sun, Moon, ASC, or each other or Pluto), BUT with something blocking it; could be a challenging aspect, but even more so Saturn, Uranus or Neptune in challenging aspect could prevent the consummation or satisfaction all around.

affectionate aspects may be present, but not frequent; partnership aspects will probably be lacking.

With these hypnotic, compulsive, magical, erratic, powerful, larger than life and deeply heartbreaking and thus transformative connection I always suspect a STRONG involvement of Uranus, Neptune or Pluto


only a meagre Saturn sextile to his stellium, and a Saturn-Saturn trine - too weak

Regarding the Pluto aspects, they are not frequent, but Pluto on the ASC- this one suffices to turn your world upside down, espeically since it is aspecting your Moon (by trine - luckily by trine)

Sexual attraction is strong due to your Mars squaring his Venus and Mars, but because of the square and the Uranus-involvement the satisfaction of actual sexual relations may be limited, or everchanging (Uranus can give you real orgastic highs just to leave you pretty unsatisfied the next time).

affectionate and partnership aspects:

His Sun on your ASC
his Sun trine your Moon
His Venus trine your Venus and Moon

AFfections were there, and compatibility could have been possible, if it weren`t for the very powerful "disturbing factors"
Trines are probably just too soft.

for the powerful hypnotic Transneptunian, you have more than enough:
His Uranus on your ASC and trine your Moon
his Pluto on your ASC and trine your Moon
your Neptune squares his Sun and Mercury
your Uranus squares his Venus and Mars

There is so much Uranus; I guess a very quick, suddden, disruptive, shocking, electric "growth / learning" was almost forced on you.
Alsmot like you have been both catalysts for each other, catapulting each other into a completely new realm, at least for the time being. And maybe that is all Uranus wants to do, open people up for completely new experiences.

(4) Marvin - the persistent flirtation

What do we expect?

Lack of Saturn aspects

Maybe lack of true partnership aspects
affectionate aspects, especially with Venus, may be there; Moon may be lacking a bit

Definitely Venus, Mars, Mercury and Uranus involvement with each other

there is not really a lack of Saturn aspects (maybe that is the PERSISTENT-part?), but an oposition to Venus could have very restrictive, obstricting influence on the development of romance
Interestingly it is you who rejects him. Hmm.


no real partnership aspects

his Venus trine your Moon is affectionate though; him being more romantically interested


Mars conjunct Mars,opposing Uranus - could be a flirtative aspect, even though it seems to imply more of a sexual overtone than just a mere "mind-game" as flirts can also be.


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posted July 21, 2010 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you DD

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posted July 21, 2010 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eskimono     Edit/Delete Message
You are amazing DD - thank you.

I need to read this properly and study the charts.....I'm still learning and didn't pick up half of this.

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