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bonadea33
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posted July 28, 2010 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Neptune Retrograde in my 12th house (ruler of my 6th). Yesterday I was searching all planets retrogrades, what they mean.

About Neptune Retrograde:

1. Neptune is the ruler over bacteria, viruses and the immune system. About me: I have bacteria's since 40 years.
I didn't know that Neptune rules with them. I didn’t know that my pains are connected with bacteria’s. I don’t know how to get rid of them.

2. Neptune Retrograde can be one of the most dangerous retrogrades positions in the Astrological chart system. This position can cause people to be inhibited and lack the confidence to reach for their dreams in reality. Consequently they may find escape from the proceeded failure through an abuse of drugs or alcohol. They may also fall into an escape from reality al together and have bouts with various forms of mental illness. From a past life perspective, you may have had a lifetime where your dreams were laughed at, put down or forbidden in some fashion.

I wonder who has Neptune R and how do you feel about them? I like to know how that is, when somebody has Neptune R in 7th house?

Thank you for comments.

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posted July 28, 2010 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad has Neptune R.

He has practically never been sick to that day, and he has never been doing drugs nor consumes large amounts of alcohol.

Neptune rules his 7th house, and I think is between the 1st and 2nd house.

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posted July 28, 2010 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, I got natal Neptune Rx
In fact, all my outer planets are Rx yay me

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posted July 28, 2010 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi DD,

Thank you for answer.
I think that Neptune in 8th has to do with drugs and alcohol. I don't drink either, but many tablets I took (and still take) in my life are also drugs, only on a different way.

I thought here about relationship. How is your father relationship?

WL, B

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posted July 28, 2010 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He has been married to my mum for 35 years. No infidelities on neither side.
They met in their early 20`s and married 2 years later, and since then they have been together.

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posted July 28, 2010 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diablo,

What is wrong with you? Where are your retrograde planets?

I have here friend, 28 years old: she has four retrograde planets but she is ok, she doesn't care too much about that.

WL, B.

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posted July 28, 2010 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD,

In that case I have to study famous people with Neptune Rx in 7th. I thought that might be something "special".

B.

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posted July 28, 2010 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Neptune Retro in the 12th, too, Bobbie.

x o x Ami

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posted July 28, 2010 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami Ann,

I see that we have something in common.

First of all I like, that you are ASC Scorpio (I like them all).

Second: Neptune R in 12th, but you don't have Mercury in 6th as I have, what is very bad for me.

My Neptune has inconjunction with my Sun: the worst combination for health (Sun - me; Neptune from 6th in 12th).

Now, for a very long time this stupid Neptune (transit) is going up and down over my Natal Venus. Everybody says that is not good for love. I repeat many times: my Venus has nothing to do with the love, but with my health. Venus rules all in Libra: Part of Illness, Jupiter, ASC, Juno, Chiron and Neptune.

WL, B.

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posted July 28, 2010 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is my

Carte du ciel:

I like the Chart because there is nothing except Natal Chart. I can't see the forest for the trees.

B.

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I have Neptune, Uranus and Jupiter retro. No drug or alcohol problems in fact I don't even smoke ciggerettes. Neptune rules my 7th. But if your sixth house ruler is in the twelth your bound to have issues because of your rulers being placed in a malefic house. Where do you get pains and how come?

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posted July 28, 2010 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@belgz,

I have pains in the eyes, cheek bones and sinusitis and sometimes in jaw bones. I am very sleepy especially after washing hair.
From different doctors I was told all my pains are from the neck muscle. I did EMG from the neck muscle: it is OK.
When I went to Germany to work there (I was 23 years old), doctor didn't give me health certificate because of Urine. On the end he gave me the paper as it was in other country. In that time I didn't realize that my pains are connected with any bacteria.
Later, I always had bacteria's but nobody cared about that. No antibiotic did help me. Worse: I had additional pains: in abdomen.
Since 2002 I have each year once Helicobacter Pylori. I take then two antibiotics and one tablet. After that is OK, for some time.
For other bacteria Escherichia coli (E-Coli) nobody cared. As I study all possible in Medical Astrology I found something interesting: from Escherichia Coli is possible to have sinusitis. After that I found that pills they did help me until 2000 (no longer) have something to kill the bacteria.
Funny is here that my doctor at once told me, I have to take antibiotics for that bacteria. I can't eat antibiotics for that. In that case I have double pains: in the face and abdomen.

Other thing about sinusitis: I was in November 2009 by one masseur, who did massage from bottom of the spine until top of the neck. Down there I had pains at one point and have asked him, what is there? He told me, it is Acupuncture Meridian for Large Intestine and asked me: do I have sinusitis? I said, yes.
You see how long is the way to find out: where from come the pains!

Doctors told me long time ago, my pains are reflex pains and come from somewhere else, but they didn't give me reference to go to some Medical Research Centre.
So, I am the researcher for myself. It coasted and still costs lots of energy, pains and worries.

B.

p.s. the name for Mercury in 6th is: Doctor!

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posted July 28, 2010 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Dragon,

Thank you very much for sooo good information.

I was told to drink cranberry fruit juice; to eat jam from cranberries, but never heard about that what you wrote here.
I must tell you also that UK people helped me twice: first time in June 1991 from one woman, tourist in the place, I was working. Second time was when I was in London, December 2004. Pharmacist asked me, what kind of pains I have; went in other room, gave me pills and told: that is good for you. It was! Sometimes is very easy to find the right person and the right medicine.

For me now is very important to know the name of this cranberry product.
You are really Angel!

Thank you,
WL, B.

p.s. Randall: sorry, it was out of Topic!

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posted July 28, 2010 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The thing is that retrograde outerplanets don't really mean much unless they are aspected by personal planets

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posted July 28, 2010 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got:
Jupiter Rx in the 11th,
Saturn Rx in the 8th,
Uranus Rx in the 9th
Neptune Rx in the 9th and
Pluto Rx in the 7th

All my personal planets aspect my outer plantets, making max 2 aspects to an outer planet and my AC or MC. Those are the majority of my natal aspects. Annoying chart.

Gotta say, been a perfect picture of health my whole life. Never had any major illnesses, never broke a bone, never even had a filling from the dentist. Haven't had the flu or a cold since 2006. Pretty intact, which I'm very grateful for.

Neptune is my 12th house ruler, but its in the 10th and in medical astrology that rules the bones, joints, skin and teeth and they're the only things I have problems with.

If anything, I got joint/bone/muscle problems from years of dancing since I was little. I got the beginnings of athritis in my fingers, knees and hips. I'll probably need a hip replacement and there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that I'll be getting osteoporosis when I'm older.
I'll admit, I'm scared to death of getting a neurological disease like Parkinsons, Huntingtons, stroke etc.

Also, my skin is sensitive to fake metals..if its not gold then I get a disgusting rash like eczema. That includes my legs when I use a normal razor. And there was 1 time I got a really, really bad case of HIVES ALL OVER my body. That's was so uncomfortable.

As for my teeth, perfect straight teeth. No fillings, no braces, no root canals, no teeth being pulled out..but 3 wisdom teeth have come out, no doubt during transits to the 10th.

But none of that's connected to Neptunian things like bacteria, virus's or the immune system, its connected to my 10th house and 10th house health problems.

As for everything else..I've NEVER had the lack of confidence to go for my dreams. Quite the opposite. Nobody in my life has ever laughed at my ambitions and on the contrary had all the support and help I needed to achieve my dreams in the form of teachers, relatives, friends that were an inspiration to me so if anything I've had many Neptunian type guides and spiritual teachers to help me along my path.

I DO lack confidence in myself, like I'm not good enough to get something I worked hard for but its never stopped me from going for something I want, like a goal.

I have had a lot of stops and starts in my education..failing, dropping out, reapplying, failing again, fighting appeals to be let back into courses..which is due to Uranus in the 9th (disruptions in pursuing higher education) and yes, I do have a history with drugs and alcohol but I've studied long and hard into the issue to fully inform myself in order to make decisions/judgements (not surprising with it being in the house of education lol) so I've never been a hopeless, scumbag addict ever in my life. I wouldn't even call myself a reformed addict cos I've never actually been addicted to anything except cigarettes (and weed, in the past).

As for the rest of my Rx planets...like the nature of Retrograde I feel like most of my life is backwards and that I had to learn and understand a lot of stuff before I could join the human race and be normal.
They say those with Rx planets, esp outer ones get their success later on in life once they've gone through the hard stuff and suffering, like they've paid their dues.

If that's the case, then I've got a very bright future ahead of me and knowing this, I just keep on doing my thing knowing that one day (soon) i'll be reaping what I sow

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posted July 28, 2010 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good point Glaucus! Saturn, Uranus and Neptune are all RX and in the 1st house in my natal chart.

Neptune is quincunx natal Sun (Leo), sextile Moon (which rules my moon sign - Pisces), and square Mars (Aries), so I am heavily influenced by Neptune RX.

I consider Neptune RX to be a far more spiritual and karmic position than an indicator of illness and alcoholism. I definitely have had issues with really expressing my self - because Neptune RX acts as a inhibitor of self-expression, and passivity becomes the major issue.

I would suggest reading other interpretations of Neptune RX, because in general RX planets are associated with negativity in astrology, especially more traditional interpretations.

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posted July 28, 2010 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zanarkand112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune Retrograde in my chart as well. Have been prone to catching viruses all my life. In fact, last time I caught the flu it did something to me which is why I am now having to file disability. My heart beats so hard every day now for over a year and now I'm on beta blockers. I have been unable to work it is so bad. I caught it twice in a row, once when I went in a doctor's office to change my insurance, and then again after going to get my results after the first time I caught the flu.

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posted July 28, 2010 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
I have Neptune, Uranus and Jupiter retro. No drug or alcohol problems in fact I don't even smoke ciggerettes. Neptune rules my 7th. But if your sixth house ruler is in the twelth your bound to have issues because of your rulers being placed in a malefic house. Where do you get pains and how come?

Belgz(or anyone)
Can I pick your brain?
I have Pisces on the 5th house cusp and Neptune in the 12th.
How would you interpret that?


Thanks for any help
Ami

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posted July 28, 2010 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to give you a hug,((((Bobbie))))
I am sorry you are hurting, Friend.

Ami

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posted July 28, 2010 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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From a past life perspective, you may have had a lifetime where your dreams were laughed at, put down or forbidden in some fashion.

Huh, all that's been said about Neptune-retrograde sounds horrible. My Neptune is retro too - sitting right at my ASC (orb 1) in my 1st house ... So: These bad messages hit me hard.

No, seriously: I can relate to that quote above, given by BONADEA33. Somehow ... I seem to know that feeling described there - an extreme fear of "being laughed at" - which I try to hide with my Plutonian pride (Scorpio-ASC cj. Scorpio-Neptune-rx). But, to be honest, I always attached my fear of "ridicule" to my Aries-Chiron in 4th house ... Hm.

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posted July 28, 2010 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lehia2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Neptune RX , and I've also had recurrent UTI for the last 5 years. I've had one per month since last march, although now I've been E.Coli free for almost two months.
I keep taking anti-biotics, neither doctor's or I can figure out what's causing them.
Neptune is in Saggitarious in my 8th house and rules my 11th house.

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posted July 28, 2010 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Neptune Rx in my 8th in Sag.
Neptune trines my Asc...

I dont do drugs I rarely even drink. I do love my caffeine though. :P

I have problems taking any type of medicine. I'm allergic to penicillin. I have never been able to take a full bottle of prescriptions. I get sicker than a dog.. It takes me an extra week to recover from the medicine. My body rejects it.

I rarely get sick, but when I do its usually a bacterial infection. Like strep throat, laryngitis.. I did get a bacterial infection from shaving :O and had to have the bacteria cut out of my leg... The razor was new, I just some how cut myself and bacteria got it.

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NEPTUNE IN THE EIGHTH HOUSE--Neptune in the houses indicates the ways in which you may
express your mystical potential--your ability to visualize. The eighth house position focuses on your
psychic tendencies, your interest in the occult, and indicates the potential for clairvoyance. Be
warned against attempts to manipulate occult forces for personal materialistic gain. Seek positive
spiritual guidance to determine the best ways in which to apply these spiritual gifts for the good of
you and others.
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NEPTUNE IN SAGITTARIUS

You believe that the power to visualize a better world will create it. You have a love of freedom and
philosophical ideas; you are by nature optimistic.

Neptune in 8th house

You have some interest in large-scale social institutions, insurance and government agencies. You
are very sensitive and if you are able to use this quality in a positive way you will get involved in
digging down to the foundations of culture. This may express itself as an interest in some aspect of
the past.

Neptune in 8th house Unafflicted

You are a good and thoughtful investor, taking other people's needs into consideration. You are also
a good investigator and will perhaps have some interest in the occult. You can be so sensitive to
others that there can be some confusion as to what belongs to them and what belongs to you.
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Neptune Retrograde

Sometimes you find it difficult to determine what is real and what is not. You have a
vivid imagination and you find comfort in your daydreaming and fantasy. Although it
may not be recognized as such, you have a psychic gift.

In a prior life, you may have used illusion and delusion to take undue advantage of
others. You were attracted to things psychic and may have even represented
yourself as a medium or even as a magician. In this lifetime, you are still drawn to
psychic and occult matters.

Your lesson in this lifetime, is to develop your real spiritual side. You may decide to
use your psychic gifts for personal gain. If you do so, use them honestly, avoiding
deception of others at all costs.
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Neptune is Retrograde:

The above is complicated by the fact that you had a prior lifetime or lifetimes in
which you dissipated your energy, fell away from your disciplines, or were too
passive or irresolute to go after the spiritual opportunities open to you at that time.
This carries over as a vague yet persistent inner nagging that you should be further
on than you are, or a fear of spiritual failure. You may also have been involved in
mystical or magical practices that created distortions in your life. It is important for
you to take a balanced, patient, well-grounded attitude toward life - nothing too
otherworldly, ethereal, or glamorous. Indulging in any mood-altering substances is
particularly deleterious for you.
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