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racole12
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posted July 29, 2010 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
I keep hearing about Pholus, Ixion and Dejanira but not actually finding any info... so I would like to learn how these 3 interact in the the natal and in synastry in aspect to the planets and angles.

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posted July 29, 2010 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
Ixion

Discovery Date:
May 22, 2001

Ixion in 5'28 Sagittarius (emphasis on beliefs,expansion,philosophy)
Game of Cricket
'the development of skill in group-situations testing collective goals'

Heliocentric North Ixion Node in 11'01 Gemini (emphasis on
thoughts,communications)
A Negro Girl Fights For Her Independence In The City
'liberation from the ghosts of the past'


Ixion Perihelion in 13'32 Aries (emphasis on self,action)
A Serpent Coiling Near A Man And A Woman
'identification in bipolar relationship with the impersonal rhythm of
natural energy'


Mark Andrew Holmes listed the following keywords for Ixion:
Astrologically, Ixion signifies busy-ness, workaholism, lust to
acquire or possess, materialism and its consequences, lack of
appreciation or gratitude, to take things for granted, being on a
treadmill, being without regrets, being harmed by one's own creations
or ingenuity or through something artificial, hubris, karma,
rediscovering something simpler, strength through joy, creating
trouble, creating change, lust for life, charisma, inventiveness,
ingenuity, having one's mistakes or evil take on a life of their own,
passing problems down through the generations, "breaking eggs in order
to make omelets", "taking the tiger by the tail."

Ixion is a plutino,and so has a similar orbit with Pluto. Therefore it
makes sense that it can share intensity,power,and transformation in
common with Pluto. As for sexual, well......Ixion got punished for
his lust for Hera,the Queen of the Gods.
Personally, I think Zeus was a self righteous hypocrite for punishing
Ixion while he was messing with other men's women like Tyndareus'
wife,Leda(mother of his children,Helen and Pollux) and Amphitrion's
wife,Alcmene(mother of his son,Heracles). Ixion was very arrogant to
think that he can come on to a goddess let alone the queen of gods,and
be punished. He got what he wanted,but not exactly....he got to have
sex with who he thought was Hera. He was probably in ecstatic delight
having sex with the queen of the gods. She was actually a fake Hera
created from a cloud by Zeus to test Ixion. The sexual intercourse
resulted in lusty Centaurus who mated with a mare,and the lusty
centaurs were born. But yeah....having sex with a goddess....what a
dream come true.....especially with the queen of the gods. Can you
blame Ixion for being so full of pride that he brags about his sexual
experience with who he thought was Hera? Zeus definitely did. Zeus
had Hermes take Ixion to Tartarus and have him chained to a fiery
wheel spinning forever. The wheel being compared to the cycle of
birth,death,and rebirth.

The discovery date

May 22, 2001
converts to
5/22/2001

5 + 22 + 3 = 30

lifepath 3 indicates self expression,creativity
the 22 birthday number(shows a special gift that can be used to help
on the lifepath) indicates the master builder. involves the ability to
bring ideals into concrete realization.

Moon in Taurus seems to indicate emotional focus on security,materialism

Venus in Aries trine Pluto in Sagittarius,sextile Jupiter in Gemini
seems to indicate the selfish desires in harmony with power with
opportunity for expanding mentally. It can be about the love of wealth
and power. This configuration could indicate magnetic attraction that
involves expansion,abundance in general,and this can include
relationships,partnerships. It can be lusty,sexual.

Mercury-Jupiter in Gemini trine Uranus in Aquarius indicates the
expansive thinking in harmony with independence. Highly progressive
thinking. Thinking of possibilities that can lead to innovation.
Sudden luck and positive surprises that results from focusing on
positive things.

Mercury in Gemini oppose Mars in Sagittarius seems to indicate
thoughts at odds with acting on one's beliefs,ideals. This could
indicate the need to integrate one's thinking with one's drive fueled
by expansion,beliefs. Mercury oppose Mars could also be focusing on
something with passion that leads to things happening faster. Mars
sextile Uranus also actions working with independence. Acting
independently.

Sun conjunct Saturn in Gemini indicates the merging of self expression
and structure in thinking. Thoughts and reality strongly connected.
Physical manifestation of thoughts. A strong emphasis on karma.


In my own chart:

Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio in 2nd
conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd
trine Moon in 3'11 Pisces in 6th
quincunx Saturn in 5'08 Gemini in 9th
biquintile Midheaven - '10

more info on Ixion http://www.zanestein.com/Ixion.htm

Ixion: Father of the Centaurs, and not a particularly nice fellow. Orbital Period: 246.78 yr.

Positive - understands karmic wheel, gives and uses a second chance, discerning

Negative - lustful, inconsiderate, inclined to repeat errors, learns nothing from experience

Mundane - second efforts and chances, reset buttons, cloud seeding, study of weather, watching clouds, lust or coveting of another's mate

Ceremonial - rain dances, purging fires, seeking master healers www.philipsedgwick.com/

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Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts

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popcorn
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posted July 29, 2010 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
I just try to find out how it works in my own life and in my chart. And for me it looks more as an subtle deep affect on me. One man trigg this point once a time. His lust conj trigg my stellium valentine/siva/ ixion. I think it took almost 6 year to get him out of my mind. I moved.(not because him) I think I will feel the same if I meet him again today. I trigg his lust and that trigg the valentine/siva/ixion feeling on a more deep spooky level (siva,ixion). Earlier I could't understand why I never could leave him out of my mind. There was not any strong aspect in our synastry. The only one was an DW juno/eros.

I think my valentine/siva/ixion bring me a strong feeling of patience,durability or obsession .

I've a male friends and his Sun conj that point. He been my friend in 30 year now. We have so fun togheter and my children love him. I think Ixion trigg our durability. My feelings for him are the same always. What I feel in the beginning still going on...

I've valentine 26,51 in libra
ixion 27,20 in libra
siva 27,24 in libra

in trine to my venus 28,3 in gemini and N.N/mars

in sextile to amor and wertex in SAG 26

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seeleah
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posted July 29, 2010 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeleah     Edit/Delete Message
pholus?

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popcorn
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posted July 29, 2010 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
pholus. The midpoint of saturn and nept which are trong karmic point. Events in your life you meant to go through. Milestone in your life you cant act on. Pholus in transit feels.

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racole12
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posted July 29, 2010 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
popcorn~
I can't find out how they work in my chart when I don't know what they actually are

Thanks Glaucus for the info on ixion

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popcorn
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posted July 29, 2010 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
pholus is an asteroid. pholus can opening the door to the infinite and bring new possibilities. For me pholus give you the answer to see cause and effect. Suddenly events and personal act and the consistency.

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Glaucus
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posted July 29, 2010 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

Pholus is actually a centaur.

It's not an asteroid

asteroids have faster orbits....they orbit up to 4 years


Centaurs orbit beyond Jupiter

Pholus has an orbit of 91.85 years.
Therefore, its orbit is slower than Uranus.


asteroids have a personal-social influence
centaurs have a social to generational influence


asteroids are rocky objects

centaurs are asteroid-comet hybrids

In 1977, Chiron was the first of the centaurs discovered
In 1992, Pholus was the second of the centaurs discovered

1992 was also the same year that the 2nd transneptunian/kuiper belt object after Pluto
was discovered.


Pholus is said to link the orbits of Saturn and Neptune. Saturn/Neptune midpoint is said to be Pholus-sensitive. That means that aspects to the Saturn/Neptune midpoint are like aspects to Pholus. I have Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune myself from my Moon square Saturn-Neptune opposition t-square. I have Moon conjunct Pholus in Right Ascension.

Pholus is said to be associated with drugs,alcohol,substance abuse issues as well as the liberation from those things. Spiritual rituals also fit with Pholus. Sacrifice does too.

With my Moon involved, these things I can relate to through my mother. My mother has history of drug,alcohol,substance abuse issues.


1992 was a significant year for Astronomy


Philip Sedgwick wrote the following for Pholus:

Pholus: Keeper of the sacred wine and host to Hercules. Orbital Period: 91.95 yr.

Positive - just, wise, nurturing, meeting the needs of others while keeping own needs in balance, conscious of choice, ceremonial, pacifism, self nurturing, attentive

Negative - opinionated believing rules of cosmic forces do not apply to oneself, addicted to food or alcohol, careless regarding weaponry (or security tools), ignoring spiritual needs, indulgent, reclusive, meddling

Mundane - food and drink - especially regarding celebrations, daily ceremony and ritual

Ceremonial - toasting, blessings and grace, celebrations, creating a daily hour of power http://www.philipsedgwick.com/


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Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts

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popcorn
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posted July 29, 2010 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry. I mean centaur planetoid. I write wrong

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