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letram
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posted July 29, 2010 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
anyone have fears or even anxiety issues at times with the thought of having burgulars, criminals invading their home? i know objectively no one wants to experience this, but i mean dose nayone with this placement find they have almost a fear of it taht gives them nightmares?

also, i wonder if you also fear demonic or supernatural things occuring around you, especially the home, any thing to do with ghosts etc.

just wondered, i do really bad, and i wondered if it was to do with my pluto in the 4th, apparently 4th house pluto natives have control desires within their homes and fear the loss of it.

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Ami Ann
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posted July 29, 2010 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
My music teacher is a medium. He has the ghost of the previous owner living in his house lol.
He talks to her,even.
I believe in the Bible so I would look at it one way and other people might look at it another way but you can get rid of any evil presences that are bothering you.
You have to know how to deal with the spiritual world. There are people around who can help you.

Ami

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belgz
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posted July 29, 2010 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
When transit Pluto entered my fourth for 2 or 3 years I was exactly like how you described and had really bad panic attacks. I moved homes and countries about 6 times.

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Glaucus
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posted July 29, 2010 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

get some sage

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted July 30, 2010 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Ami--

OMG, I would completely freak out if I had spirits in my house, even friendly ones! I have had visitations before and it always totally freaked me out. I think spirits are attracted to me but no way will I ever let them think I am friendly enough to hang around permanently. Be gone, get out, you can't stay! I have the chills now just thinking about a dead owner ghost being in my house EEK!

Your music teacher must have an interesting chart, I'd love to check out his asteroids.

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Ami Ann
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posted July 30, 2010 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Oh Star of Venus. I will be back with his DOB. You can put the chart up ,if you want, cuz I have not figured out how to get it to the Photobucket site and then get it on here.
He is SO interesting.
He is one of these guys who is a pure genius at whatever he touches but you would never know it cuz he is very humble and self effacing---in an attractive way--not Oh Shucks

He is very handsome ,too.
If I could get a pix up, I would.
He has an Out of Bounds Mercury.
I was asking on another thread if an Out of Bounds Mercury confers great and versatile intelligence but no one answered lol.
I will be back tomorrow and I will tell you more details about his ghost cuz it is really interesting.
x o x Ami

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mir
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posted July 30, 2010 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message
When pluto just entered my 4th my dad died and for a while I couldn't sleep alone because I was afraid for all the things you described.
Pluto is ruler of my 4th.

I'm not afraid for ghosts etc. because I simply don't believe in them ANYMORE.
But now I fear burglars at night a LOT!!!
I sleep with a hammer under my bed but unfortunately that isn't a remedy for ghosts.

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belgz
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posted July 30, 2010 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
I just found this surfing the net for Jup=IC and TA DA!!! I remembered you might be interested
http://tribes.tribe.net/4h/thread/9fca3c8d-dce5-4d68-86c9-5ce94263c6af

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Ami Ann
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posted July 30, 2010 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
SOV
He asked the person who sold him the house to show him a picture of her mother and it was the ghost as he sees her.
The ghost loved his baby daughter and would keep the daughter up at night engaging with her.
He told the ghost that he would banish her to the garage lol if she did not let the baby sleep at night.
The ghost WENT in to the gagarge.
Later, he told the ghost that she could come out and she went back in to the house.
My teacher has no fear of the other side.
He had a near death experience in his 20's and is not afraid of death.
I have more to share on another post in case this one gets erased lol


Ami

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Ami Ann
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posted July 30, 2010 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
My son died, as most of you know. My guitar teacher came in to my life a few months later as someone to fix things around the house.
Later, I learned he was a professional musician.
I say that to say that God brought him to me through normal,practical means i.e. needing work done on the house.

OK-this is what I wanted to share. One day, before my lesson, I went in to the kitchen to make him coffee.
I was grinding beans so could not hear anything.
He said,"Did you hear that?"
I said,"No,"
My guitar which was across the room from him strummed by itself.
My son always wanted me to play the piano and guitar more than I did.
He was always encouraging me on it.

Another time, my teacher told me the door handle which is a push down handle, opened itself and the door opened.
*I* did not see these things.
I prolly would have been freaked out. That is why .


Ami
PS SOV---Here is his info. If you want to put up his chart, that would be great.
It is Oct 8,1959 at 3:08 PM in Norwalk, Ohio, USA.

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Lonake
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posted July 30, 2010 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
How funny... Yes. Absolutely.

Sometimes I even leave a lil something near the door on purpose so that i'll know if it's been opened or not. And lately have been thinking of getting a simple camera in the home to survey the front door at all times. And I obsessively check to make sure doors are locked and closed, drawers are closed, etc. if anything's left open I can't sleep.

Regarding paranormal activity in the home: Yes, for years off and on, and in different residences (have lived in at least 5 places in the last 10 yrs). All of my residences had paranormal activity but never the same kind twice. In my current location I saw what I believe to be some sort of demon in my home, and I had never registered faces of any paranormal activity before.. there were voices one time, another touched me another time, and others, but never did i *see* anything. It was quite terifying, since then I've started to collect religious symbols across all beliefs: chrisitian, hindu, islam, buddhist, you name it. I've seen the devil in one person, and then that, thing, whatever it was and there is nothing in a human that could compare to that spirit, it's awful.

But the paranormal experiences weren't all bad, only that one, the others were neutral, and then there was one that saved my life, literally, so incredibly positive, and then another incredibly positive experience.

Another thing I want to add is that I didn't believe in paranormal things like the above *until I experienced it myself* - really didn't believe. Chakras as well, those are real too, and another thing I didn't really *get* until I saw, literally, them at work. I think that's the reason I haven't experienced more than one of any type, because they're supposed to open me up somehow. Never mind that I'm a Pisces, I have to see it to believe it, so for example I don't believe in aliens, why, because I never saw one, I have to have the direct experience or it won't compute no matter what anyone tells me..maybe it's the Aquarius Merc, they like to figure things out for themselves.

Pluto H4, conj IC 1 deg

p.s., I'm another who'd sleep with a weapon under their bed, but I know that they can move around by themselves, so I don't want that in my room while asleep

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FrozenQueen
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posted July 31, 2010 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message
My Pluto is in my 3rd house in Scorpio but it conjuncts the IC with an orb of 3 degrees...so it counts as a 4th house.

I do identify with the 3rd house but yes, there are supernatural beings around me and I can feel their influence right now.
When I was in 11th grade, I got my hands on the Keys of Solomon and since then I'm occasionally visited by this entity called Astaroth...I find him wise but distant with a particularly wry sense of humour...not human for sure.

But yes, I'm concerned about security though I don't fret over it.

Helped?

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FrozenQueen
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posted July 31, 2010 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message
My Pluto is in my 3rd house in Scorpio but it conjuncts the IC with an orb of 3 degrees...so it counts as a 4th house.

I do identify with the 3rd house but yes, there are supernatural beings around me and I can feel their influence right now.
When I was in 11th grade, I got my hands on the Keys of Solomon and since then I'm occasionally visited by this entity called Astaroth...I find him wise but distant with a particularly wry sense of humour...not human for sure.

But yes, I'm concerned about security though I don't fret over it.

Helped?

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