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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted July 29, 2010 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
I mean monster HATE. We've been assigned to work on a class project in grad school together along with 2 other team members. All was well the first week or two, then commence major head butting when it came time to submit the first draft of our team paper for review. She wanted to submit her version, I wanted to submit mine. Submitting the team's version of the draft was my "job" by the way, but I had a power outage so she took it upon herself to write one up even though I was able to submit in it time. Her draft came with a ton of criticism of everyone else's work and entire rewrites of their contributions.

Cue the sniping and clawing out of eyes that has gone on over the past week, with our poor 2 other group members stuck in the middle. The crazy thing is, this is all online! I've never met this woman in my life, but I'm sure if we were ever in the same room, the tumbleweeds would start blowing across the floor. Then tonight even though the 3 of us decided to submit my draft, we find out she submitted a second secret draft behind our backs to the professor and passed it off as group work! Just when I had forgiven her for the other thing--I felt so betrayed! Oh the drama!

Initially, I felt like she was trying to take over and was a control freak. Now I just think she's a jerk in general. I've made no secret of my dislike for her. It's mutual. Our birth date is available in our student profile and she shared her place of birth in her student intro, so I was able to put together a chart, but I don't know her birth time so I used noon.

Here's our synastry (I'm inside):

And the composite:

At first glance, I would think that with Moons exact conjunct we would get along famously. Those Moons are at the apex of a Yod though, so they're being challenged. Initially the vibe seemed rather nice...what the hell happened?

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electricmind
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posted July 29, 2010 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
she has got a sun/pluto conjunction in scorpio widely opposing her moon in taurus and your moons are conjunct. GEEZ LOUISE! talk about power struggle! and it conjuncting/opposing your venus seems like there may be an element of jealousy or envy.

she has got mercury conjunct saturn in scorpio in her 10th house. eek!

as a capricorn rising, i can admit that we can be 'kind of' bossy. i also have saturn in the 10th in scorpio, but mine is conjunct mars.

mars in the 7th composite house is prime for being open enemies.

eta: she is obviously a tortured soul and takes it out on other people. blunt and a bit harsh i know but based on whats in her chart, she is bossy and controlling and conniving. hope no one bites my head off.

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted July 29, 2010 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Electricmind...

I hope none of the Scorpios on here take this wrong way because I love my Scorpios, but as soon as I saw the chart I went, "Dangnabbit! I should have known!" Especially with this sneaky submission of the second draft. She just HAD to have her way and didn't care who got steamrolled in the process.

I mean quite frankly, after the tongue lashing I gave her over writing up her own draft, I totally expected her to slink away in defeat (not many people can withstand one of my verbal slicings and dicings), but she has not backed down at all. A worthy opponent! She comes across as much older...it wasn't until I did her chart that I was reminded that she is only 24.

That t-square is pretty tight and horrible. And there is a LOT of fixed energy in this synastry. A recipe for disaster.

I usually get along so great with Scorpios, this one I want to choke until she turns blue.

"Open enemies"...ha! Our two other team members and the instructor will need hospitalization by the time this is over...they begin every email with, "I don't want to get into the middle of a fight..."

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electricmind
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posted July 30, 2010 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
i've got mars and pluto in scopio and saturn too...all in my 10th. i've got mad scorpio love. but that power in the wrong hands is dangerous or just down right mean.

takes a special soul to do right with it.

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NickiG
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posted July 30, 2010 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
StarrofVenusGirl
since she is scorpio she doesnt want to lose, not to you, not to anyone and she is doing everything in her power to make sure you lose and she wins. i get the feeling she may be a little scorpion and not a flying eagle. she wants to keep stinging you until you submit and admit defeat. her scorpio pride is too great and ABSOLUTELY refuses to be anything less than leader and absolute ruler of the group. at least, thats what my intuition tells me

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted July 30, 2010 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
:: observes Scorpion thrashing tail about, yawns, grabs Scorpion, squishes it with foot, sweeps it up, sprays Lysol::

Well she picked the wrong one because I always win. Tsk tsk. I know I should probably be all "the universe wants me to be the bigger person" but I don't think so.

Consider me unevolved.

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NickiG
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posted July 30, 2010 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
LOL, omg, wow....i'm no good at reading charts, i only go on what my intuition tells me, but i think she isnt the kind to give up easily, but your will may be stronger than hers so squash her good

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Diana
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posted July 30, 2010 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
You're both control freaks to a certain extent. I'm going off the top of my head with your charts, so forgive me if I mess something up here.

You are virgo sun who is meticulous in tasks, which is a way of being controlling.


She is scorpio sun, which is controlling due to power issues.

You have mars in leo, which can be controlling (fixed -- sun, ego).


I can't tell if her mars is anaretic in virgo, which would fit with what i said about virgo above, being anaretic would be the icing on the cake.

Her pluto is on your venus, so you view her as controlling. She may view you as superficial and whiny, a ***** .


There are a lot of conjunctions (it appears) in synastry. I've found that to be highly annoying, personally. I worked with a guy whose planets hit all of mine and he annoyed the hell out of me. People who saw the chart thought I and he would like each other and have major chemistry, but we didn't at all. Our angles were even the same and same moon. It was too much damn energy. Conjunctions, if there are too many can have the opposite effect than people expect, because they are a hard aspect. I actually think the square and opp are easier to deal with, but I have a lot of conjunctions in my natal.

You both have moon in taurus. Umm, I don't even need to elaborate on that one. Fixed again and very stubborn.


I didn't look at the comp, bc the synastry said a lot and I am not feeling well.


The semester will end and thank God you don't actually have to see her.

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NickiG
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posted July 30, 2010 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
yea, if you did have to see her it would be one hell of a cat fight

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted July 30, 2010 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Diana,

Her Mars is at 1'17 Libra, so it's not anaretic. Darn. One less flaw for her

I think you may be on to something with my Mars in Leo though. I have to admit that when she "helpfully" took it upon herself to write up her own draft while my power was out, my first thought was, "How dare she usurp me!" That word actually was in my brain. Usurp. Very Leo, non? ::hangs head in shame at own arrogance::

As far as the conjunctions, that's interesting, because I did have the thought that, if she were a man, I'd think some of this was pretty good synastry. I usually do well with conjunctions, and conjunctions in Scorpio...oh my! This is terrible, though. You're absolutely right, it does feel like oil and water every time we're forced to interact.

@NickiG--Agreed.

@Electricmind Everyone I know with a Scorpio stellium is a piece of work! Evil, vindictive, and refuse to admit when they're wrong...present company excluded of course I know plenty of Scorpios and have a fondness for the male, but when I see a combo of more than 3 planets/angle I know to run for the hills

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NickiG
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posted July 30, 2010 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
hey, i resent that, i'm not vindictive and refuse to admit defeat and i'm scorpio
11-19-1989 6:08 pm Cherry Point, NC
check if you dont believe me
of course, leave it to me to not see the "present company exluded"

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted July 30, 2010 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Oh alright...I guess if someone with Sun, Mars, and Pluto in Scorpio isn't a complete jerk I'll have to retract my statement about Scorpio stelliums.

Maybe I've had bad experiences with the stellium...in general, I have nothing but good things to say about Scorpios, I'm pretty Plutonic myself.

Did you know you have no Air? Well you have no planets in Air, only the NN and 2 angles.

ETA: That's ok Nicki, I hadn't seen your chart, but yes, now the present company excluded includes you as well.

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NickiG
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posted July 30, 2010 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
yea, im pretty much water and earth, with a tad of fire
i do have a gemini ascendant though

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted July 30, 2010 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I noticed, that's one of the angles I was referring to, that and your Aquarius MC.

I always find people with complete lack of an element or singleton planets fascinating because I wonder how they incorporate that missing element into their lives. Do they feel it's lack, etc.

Scorpio + Capricorn stellium...wouldn't want to get in your way

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NickiG
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posted July 30, 2010 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
lol, yea. but i find it very funny, i have very little fire and air and the rest of me is a balance between water and earth, im sure if i didnt have a gemini ascendant then i dont know what i'd do

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Ami Ann
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posted July 30, 2010 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
:: observes Scorpion thrashing tail about, yawns, grabs Scorpion, squishes it with foot, sweeps it up, sprays Lysol::

Well she picked the wrong one because I always win. Tsk tsk. I know I should probably be all "the universe wants me to be the bigger person" but I don't think so.

Consider me unevolved.



ROLFL


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Ami Ann
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posted July 30, 2010 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Diana
Your explanations are Poetry in Motion.


Ami

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iQ
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posted July 30, 2010 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Had she been a guy the fights would have led to a passionate love affair. Pluto and Sun conjunct Venus and Taurus Moons conjunct... the stuff of Mills & Boone taken with a pinch of viagra.

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posted July 30, 2010 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
I work with someone once a time. She and I also hate each other in 2 year. It was terrible. After 2 year something happend and everything changed. She be like my sister.

For me the synastry have much positive and show passion . Sorry it not was a man


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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted July 30, 2010 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Tameem,

I know, such a shame to waste good synastry, but perhaps I should be looking for October 1985 born males hmmmmmm!

Popcorn--well they say that love & hate are two sides of the same coin but I don't think we'll be experiencing that result here. Cool story though!

Thanks for your observations everyone.

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Ami Ann
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posted July 30, 2010 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I have no earth,SOV.
In friends, I like Moon and Mars in Capricorn. It opposes my moon and Mars in Cancer.
Their way of thinking is very different than mine.
If they explain how they would handle a situation, neurons wake up in my own brain and show me possibilities I never would have seen, otherwise.
I have Saturn conjunct the ASC which confers Capricorn like traits(Thank Goodness) and Mars trine Saturn(exact).
I have Pluto conjunct MC in the 10th house(an earth house)
Those are my only earth --like influences.
I try to mine them for all I can lol


Ami


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NickiG
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posted July 30, 2010 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
the only air i have is acsendant node (not sure exactly what it means) in aquarius, ascendant gemini, and aquarius in the ninth and tenth (midheaven) houses, and that is IT. i also have a similar problem with fire too, moon in leo, mercury in sagittarius, leo in the third and forth houses and sagittarius in the seventh house

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DD
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posted July 30, 2010 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
REgarding the Moons:

Didn`t you say her birthtime was unknowns? So you can`t be sure about her Moon


Maybe she feels threatened by you or view you as too unconventional?
Her Mercury and Saturn is conjunct your Uranus.


Your Mars squares her Sun and Pluto - MAJOR power struggles. With Mars in Leo and Sun in Scorpio they can take the measurements of nuclear explosions. Fixed signs, no, emotional fixed signs, water and fire, squaring each other, all intensified by Jupiter - real GRAND SCALE power issues.

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