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Topic: AM I A ROBOT?
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belgz
Knowflake Posts: 1923
From: Planet love :)
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2010 08:57 AM
 
Can I not avoid what astrology is predicting?I have: SR sun in 4th SA venus square moon SA jupiter=IC T.Uranus square moon T.Jupiter square moon T.Jup and Ura trine my 4th HR Jupiter Quite frankly I don't want to move yet! I havn't even got a job but my grandma wants me to move out of her house now! I'm meant to be completing my studies (9th house moon) I just started end of September and I know I have an opportunity to stay here another 3 months because she's going overseas on a holiday but I don't want to move!!
Doesn't astrology make you feel like we're in the matrix?
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iQ
Knowflake Posts: 1845
From: Chennai, India
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2010 09:05 AM
You are certainly not a robot 
Astrology is showing you the nature of energy impulses influencing you, even through other people. The final decision is your Free Will but you have to act wisely, ensuring that no negative karmic debt/consequence occurs.
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belgz
Knowflake Posts: 1923
From: Planet love :)
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2010 09:17 AM
Well if I am saying "NO" and it's still out of my hands then I literally don't have free will. She's even saying she will go to the bank and get a loan to give me money so I can get out. If I don't leave in a timely manner my family are crazy they will call the cops and get me removed. I have never in my life lived somewhere longer than 2 years. I am tired of travelling. I don't have free will. No matter what I say I have to go when they WILL, and what a coincidence (not) that astrology predicted all of this. IP: Logged |
Diablo
Knowflake Posts: 557
From: Melbourne, Australia
Registered: May 2009
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posted July 30, 2010 09:18 AM
Yeeep...check this for accuracy..Last yr's SR which obviously ended at the end of june this yr Sun & mercury in the 5th (got a job at crown casino in september amongst the gamblers and left mid-may when I moved house) 5th house rules gambling and fun and leisurely pursuits. Venus & Mars in the 4th (parents forced to sell beloved family home in Feb 09 and move further out on the outskirts of Melbourne in mid-may while they renovate my grandma's house in the inner city suburbs where we are originally from...moving house, going back to original roots, the mother/grandmother, generations blah blah blah) Jupiter in the 1st (for the first time in my life i have filled out, weigh above 50kgs and don't look so stick thin. I even got my boobs back and I lost those when i was 17!!) Neptune in the 1st (yeah I'll admit I've been partying with substances and alcohol on weekends but strangely have a couple of weekends ago after my bday..hmmmm) Saturn in the 8th..well as of January I've had no sex life for the first time since I was 16. The thought of being close like that with another human being terrifies the sh1t out of me. Very unlike me considering I was a professional undresser. Oh, and the eclipses happened in my 3rd & 9th house...I'm finishing my degree this year and graduating  Woooooooooooo I love grandma's. I lived with mine for years and years 
Cos I hate living so far out I'm half living there. Gotta love the old wog g'parents IP: Logged |
belgz
Knowflake Posts: 1923
From: Planet love :)
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2010 09:23 AM
LOL I had an eclipse in my 5th house but other than that they have been in my 4th and 10th!!The Gemini new moon was in my 9th last month and I started studying on Monday. My SR moon is in 3rd as well. Home and career. See how it's all predictable is what's annoying me now. I'm hating that a few planets are predicting and determining where I end up. I think we're all robots. How do I get out of this predictable BS  IP: Logged |
Diablo
Knowflake Posts: 557
From: Melbourne, Australia
Registered: May 2009
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posted July 30, 2010 09:34 AM
Yeah I'm copping all that 9th house energy too, for the first time in 3yrs I'm working my bum off instead of p1ssfarting around.How's this for trippy, I haven't worked since I left crown in May, went for a job as a travel consultant (how 9th house is that?? Foreign travel..foreigners etc) but it was a void moon today so nothing came out of it but I was thinking, "well, eff this in 3 months im gonna have a degree to get into the health sector with so eeeeefffff this", went back to grandma's and grandpa made lunch for me I honestly haven't looked at my SR for this year. All I know is that my SR ASC is the same as my natal ASC, apparently that's big news. Oh, and my sun and mercury is in the 3rd this year along with Pluto and the nodes in the 9th. Lol Venus still hanging out in the 4th this year, Mars in the 5th..no bad, no bad..been partying a lot this year. Looks like we're gonna be professional students this year, Belgz IP: Logged |
belgz
Knowflake Posts: 1923
From: Planet love :)
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2010 09:55 AM
Wow well good luck with your studies... I have progressed moon in 9th as well as natal but I dont know if I am going to get to finish it. I want to work but I am going to get sh!t pay working in paramedics and the other day someone hit this dog and I went to rush it to the vet when I seen it and it died in my car and I cryed hysterically for hours,, I even woke up in the middle of the night and had another 1 hour cry. I'm doubting I can even handle what I'm getting myself into. I have pluto and north node in my SR 10th! So a big definite change in career.. Oh and Neptune is trine my MC showing a more caring profession even though I'm studying Pathology I had already completed my advanced course in FAP 5 years ago.I thought that it would help me get into a hsopital alot easier rather than a medical centre or Pathology clinic (govt. jobs are better).. Anyways that's just another complex story altogether.. but getting that pluto north node is potent. I've seen it make big changes in the area of the SR chart it touches. So I guess your 9th house issues will be going good for you and it probably signifies the end/completion of your studies.
I havn't been to Crown in soo long!! I used to come to Melbourne at least 20 times a year I used to live in Sunshine and Deer Park  My aunty and her 2 sisters work in the strip clubs in Melbourne too I think I have been to probably all of them when we have gone to pick them up to come out and party with us I would've never got any education if I lived there with all the hot guys and clubs
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Diablo
Knowflake Posts: 557
From: Melbourne, Australia
Registered: May 2009
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posted July 30, 2010 10:23 AM
HAHAHAHAHA you lived in SCUMSHINE??? Oh, you poor, poor thing. Don't worry, I'm from Coburg, know those areas all too well I'm afraid and go to uni in St Albans to the only uni in the western suburbs so I'm ghetto as they come hahahaCrown suuuucks, I used to go when I was 16 and it was a happening place! Love the nightlife here too much, that's why its taken me 3 effing years to do my 3rd year!! As for hot guys, um..I'm over the muzzas here. They're too woggy and dumb hahaha with their Ed Hardy and gym bodies and fashionable tattoos,
"heyyy baaaybee, what natio are ya and area ya from?"..ughhh
Sydney boys seem more toned down, yobwog like me lmao. Meh, I see uni as a whole, "its not the destination, its the journey" thing. Uranus in the 9th so lots of stops and starts. Wow, I've always so much respect for those studying paramedic science ( , some BIG responsibility there)and have always wished I had the ambition to do it. Again, same concerns..sh1t pay, etc etc that's why I didn't do nursing. I reckon that Neptune trine Mc aspect is what's making you extra sensitive to your line of work. Being a cancer, they say professions of care like nursing (or paramedics, or psychologists) are the jobs for us cos of our heightened empathy and sensitivity. Maybe everything else is overwhelming you too, those jobs are one of the most high pressure jobs EVER. I've heard of SO many people who've left it cos of the stress.
Maybe its a more Scorpionic career?? LOL I'm aiming for the government job too..f*ck being a glorified social worker for f*ck all pay..I want 200 an hour!! I reckon the strained family relationships might also be affecting you possibly? Like G'ma pushing you to move when you're not ready just yet? Maybe Pluto in the 10th means you will finally establish your own independence in the sense that you won't ever need to rely on them for anything again (just saying cos the 10th is connected to the 4th)
Correct me if I'm wrong please cos I'd feel like a d1ckhed if I got it totally wrong. SR sun in the 3rd(gemini) (exactly like natal), SR moon in the 9th
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Diablo
Knowflake Posts: 557
From: Melbourne, Australia
Registered: May 2009
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posted July 30, 2010 10:38 AM
Oh, I forgot to mention with that SR 3rd house sun and SR 9th house moon...My 15yr old sister is in yr 10 and failing, she wants to finish school and go to uni but has no hope so my parents have given me complete 100% authority to take over her education. In order words...I have to have a meeting with her coordinators and teachers, get each curriculum for each subject, keep in contact with them weekly, sit down and do her homework with her and be 100% responsible for her. 3rd house sibling issues in the realm of 9th house education issues. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
Knowflake Posts: 2475
From: US
Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 30, 2010 10:34 PM
Loved listening in on your talks,Friends.
It is fascinating to look back at the solar returns.
Ami
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Dy-na-mi-tee
Knowflake Posts: 411
From: Cloud 22, Jupiter Ave, Lalaland
Registered: Jun 2010
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posted July 31, 2010 02:09 AM
Belgz - On the bright side: You're a SEXY robot!  IP: Logged |
Predominantlyfire
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Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 31, 2010 03:42 AM
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Doesn't astrology make you feel like we're in the matrix? It seems inevitable we're going to go down a certain path whether we like it or not.
Yes i totally agree. And before the dreamers come out and start talking about free will... I was having this conversation the other day with someone. My conclusion was that we do not shape events in the short to mid term as much as some people think, and yes we are in a predestined matrix system. We only CONTRIBUTE to outcomes, we do not and can not control them absolutely. Residual karma from past encarnations, and therefore patterns of potentiality already set into place dictate the greater extent of our lives. Our only possibility of shaping a future is more based on karmic neutralisation in this life via selflessness, and hoping to get a good rigged predestined life next time round. Ultimately of course one would hope to lead such good successive encarnations in a row that we weren't reborn at all. That is the goal. I try to lead my life now so that when i come back i don't get shafted again like this life. I feel i was a tyrant in my last life, some, perhaps enough for me to get a sense of it, to a very small degree remains in me. I try to lead my life now, frankly with little interest in it, but so as to set up the next one. Abstaining from animal ingredients in clothes, food, go for cars without leather seats etc etc, not eating anything with palm oil in it etc etc. All things that, at source were born out of suffering. Some people say why don't you become a monk. To which my answer is what do those people do for anyone else. I feel it's better to suffer living in the world, simply to try and help while you're here. So i work quite hard and give as much as i feel able to animal charities. I could do more i s'pose. And i often contemplate whether it is worth me being here, or better to give the thousands i have in the bank, plus 10's of thousands more i could defraud from banks before blowing myself away - and give the lot to animals charities. I recon i must contemplate the possible karmic impacts of this weekly if not daily. And i'm sure even though it would be almost entirely out of good will that i performed this, i'd still get punished in the next carnation. Personally i think it would be the behaviour of a saint to do what i've described. But i can not pre-empt what the universal god thinks about the matter. It's risky to say the least.------------------
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iQ
Knowflake Posts: 1845
From: Chennai, India
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 31, 2010 04:23 AM
PDF, 100/100 for the philosophical accuracy of your post.
You want to make life intersting and get out of the Matrix? Then try reading some of the Nag Hammadi Scrolls.IP: Logged |
Dy-na-mi-tee
Knowflake Posts: 411
From: Cloud 22, Jupiter Ave, Lalaland
Registered: Jun 2010
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posted July 31, 2010 05:04 AM
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i often contemplate whether it is worth me being here, or better to give the thousands i have in the bank, plus 10's of thousands more i could defraud from banks before blowing myself away - and give the lot to animals charities.
I contemplate similar scenarios. But at the end of the day I believe I can be of more use to the people around me and the world - whilst alive. I can work and achieve certain things in these areas. It seems like the better option.
It is not out of fear of "punishment" though. Whats the point? You can't escape pain. You can't get everything "right", when no one even knows what "right" is. Besides - what is "right" for you may not be "right" for someone else. A mentally disabled person might genuinely think it is "right" to murder someone. They might think they are doing this person a favour and that they are taking a positive action. I don't believe they could be "punished" for this. If you believe you are doing the right thing for the right reasons - then it is your own personal justice. I think punishment comes in, if it does - when you feel *guilt* -- when you *believe* that something is wrong or not OK - and you go ahead and do it anyway. There is no objective standard of morality. IP: Logged |
Predominantlyfire
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posted July 31, 2010 05:16 AM
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PDF, 100/100 for the philosophical accuracy of your post.
You want to make life intersting and get out of the Matrix? Then try reading some of the Nag Hammadi Scrolls.
Ok thanks man i'll try and check them out. quote:
When you believe you are doing the right thing for the right reasons - then it is your own personal justice. I think punishment comes in, if it it does - when you feel *guilt* -- when you *believe* that something is wrong or not OK - and you go ahead and do it anyway.
Yes i know what you're saying Dyna. Certainly 'intention' is more heavily taken into account by god, than the 'action' itself. A good intention is the way forward. And sometimes you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. Although i don't really like that expression. Because the real answer is don't make the omelette unless the chickens were happy to to lay the egg for you. But i digress..------------------
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Ami Ann
Knowflake Posts: 2475
From: US
Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 31, 2010 06:48 AM
You know, I am surprised how many people have a sense of "Why am I here" or 'Why bother?"
I thought it was only me 
Ami
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DiandraReborn25
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From: Portugal
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 31, 2010 07:14 AM
PDFEven not knowing you,i certainly perceive how you changed so much,since you started comin here. i liked what you wrote about this "matrix". im currently reading Busting LOOse from the money game.it is a very peculiar and complex book that is leaving me with a whole new perspective about what all this really Is. itīs avaiable on the internet if you want to take a peek,i put it on the pilgrimīs process forum. Ami thereīs a lot of knowflakes here who are very aware of those questions and been searching for the answers. we just dont talk so much about it here,because this is the astrology forum sometimes i digress and start to philosophy about my own things,and of course its out of the subject,so now,sometimes i share some things in the Universal - Codes. IP: Logged |
belgz
Knowflake Posts: 1923
From: Planet love :)
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 31, 2010 09:06 AM
Well said PDF. I love how you think Sometimes everything feels surreal and like a dream to me. It's like one big GAME. Even when we argue with someone or a friendship/relationship breaks up it SHOWS. I feel TRAPPED...... My mind belongs to me but the rest doesn't. Has anyone here had a transit or something of the obvious astrologically and it NOT manifested?? IP: Logged |
winter
Knowflake Posts: 93
From: Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 31, 2010 10:26 AM
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Has anyone here had a transit or something of the obvious astrologically and it NOT manifested??
My Jupiter Return.
Watched that big-ass dude whizz through mid Pisces - NOTHING. Not even a retrograde.
Totally ripped off.
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belgz
Knowflake Posts: 1923
From: Planet love :)
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 31, 2010 10:34 AM
Lol Jupiter is a hoax. Excluding Jupiter  IP: Logged |
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