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iQ
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posted July 31, 2010 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Andrea Yates killed five of her children in the space of 45 minutes on 20th June 2001.
She was already diagnosed as psychotic and suicidal but the multicomposite charts of the 5 innocent children shows a dark, satanic entity at work in using Andrea as a vessel of heinous crime.

As usual, Nessus and Lucifer point to the abusive mentality that was to afflict the children.

1. LUCIFER 13.1 Cancer exactly opposes DEJANIRA in 13.3 Capricorn.

2. This opposition is exactly T-Squared by Saturn in 13.2 Aries.

3. NESSUS and SIVA [ruling death in vedic mythology, and worshipped by the dark side of the illuminati] are exactly conjunct 13.4 Sagittarius, the degree of Ancient Egypt. This points to a possible Freemasonic Influence or Ritual invocation.

4. Venus and Neptune are conjunct exact approx 29 Capricorn, representing a mentally disturbed woman. 29 Capricorn is the degree of the illuminati.

5. Sun in 29 Sag squares NEMESIS exact in 29 Virgo.

During the murder, Transit Sun was exactly opposed to Natal multicomposite Sun, and Transit NESSUS had completed conjunction of Dejanira and was less than 1 degree away, still within dangerous orb. Also, Moon and Saturn were conjunct that day.


It is possible that these 5 children were reincarnations of good souls from Ancient Egypt and could have worked for the benefit of Planet Earth but dark forces snuffed them out using their own mother as a vessel.

An astrologer with knowledge of Asteroids could have warned the dad or a heroic cousin/uncle of the family the moment the fifth child was born that the exact square/affliction to Dejanira in the multi-composite signifies danger to all 5 kids at the same time from dark forces. Even a simple act such as an orgone generator or a blessed Amethyst Crystal kept on the property would have prevented such a drastic incident from occurring.


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posted July 31, 2010 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Man, that gives me the chills.


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posted July 31, 2010 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
wowo......those kind of events makes me extremely sensitive.

but i believe IQ that one day,astrologu will be used as a tool to prevent such dark murderers.

the other day i think DD found an important asteroids too: Apophis.did you saw how this one was being connected?

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posted July 31, 2010 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, Apophis is a major dicovery by DD. I have to re-check my earthquake research with both Apophis and Poseidon than only Poseidon.

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posted July 31, 2010 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
IQ

i wanted to ask you something:when these type of murderers occur,these souls of the children and of the mother...did they made the soul contract before reincarnating,for this to happen?

or these type of events dont happen the way we think?are they random or the souls that come,already choose this to happen?

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posted July 31, 2010 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
Dejanira was talked about again... will someone please tell me what it is..?

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posted July 31, 2010 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
WOW!!!

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posted July 31, 2010 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Racole,

Dejanira was the wife of Hercules. Once they wanted to cross a river, and the centaur Nessus offered to take Dejanira on his shoulders (for some reason Hercules couldn´t do it himself) and bring her safely over.
Yet, he then tried to rape Dejanira.
Hercules instantly shot Nessus; while dying Nessus whispered to Dejanira that his blood was sacred, and that should she ever doubt Hercules fidelity, she should put some of his blood onto his cloth, then he would always return to her.

Dejanira, naive as she was (can you believe it? He just had tried to RAPE her and she believed him? Talk about the naivetee of the innocent ), believed him,a nd after some years she doubted - again- Hercules fidelity; she did what Nessus had told her, but his blood had been poisoned so Hercules was suffering cruel torture, as the poison was eating into his skin.


So, Dejanira is probably symbolic for a naive, innocent person, who cannot protect herself too well, and either needs the protection of others or is easily being manipulated / victimized, and who can bring great damage upon herself or her loved ones through her naivetee and inexperience.

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posted July 31, 2010 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
wow...this is absolutely nuts..i had always believed in reincarnation but i NEVER thought that it could work like this..sometimes it creeps me out how much the stars can predict things like this..brrr, it gives me the chills

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posted July 31, 2010 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Cases like these, Diandra, can logically occur only if the Soul Contract has been broken.
There are consequences. The killer will have to start over in a lifeline where chances of her saving children from death are highest.

The innocent children will have a powerful new incarnation, probably when the Earth is ready for Angelic beings, or they will go on to a more evolved Star System. However, there is a twist here too, according to the famous Tantrik Aghori Vimalananda. He claims that murdered or ritually sacrificed kids continue to exist as spirit children in a higher Astral Plane. They can be pulled back into an Earth Incarnation as an answer to the teary prayers of a childless couple.

Some can be pushed upwards to 5D by powerful yogis such as Vimalananda who have to "mother" or "act as godfather" the child souls to the upward planes onto their Higher Self. I think this step is a higher level Soul Contract where the Higher Self of the child is giving a chance to us Earth folk to see which of us is concerned for the spirit of the child. Do we just close our eyes in denial to these news clips or do we send love and prayers to the deceased children?

These 5 kids have sacrificed their lives and deserve our maximum compassion and respect but millions of more kids have perished in Iraq, Africa, Asia, Bosnia from war/malnourishment... and hundreds of thousands are murdered by satanic cults in the developed world. The media would just list them as missing children. Nobody bothers to see how many missing children have been found, this issue is never taken up with elected representatives.

All these deceased children could be waiting in the upper Astral for a simple prayer to send them upwards to the 5th Dimension. And the gift of waiting for the prayer could be for us to make Planet Earth a better place in spite of the wicked entities who are just going to be de-created into some black hole or vacuum energy pile.

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posted August 02, 2010 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
When systematic murder without sexual assault is involved, Nessus need NOT bt harshly aspected. But I found evidence that in the case of Dr Death Harold Shipman [14th Jan 1946], he has Nessus trine Mercury exact, a positive Nessus Aspect.
He does have Neptune exact opposed DEJANIRA though.

LUCIFER and Mars are negatively aspected in his chart with Sun exact opp retro Mars and retro Saturn, Sun exact quincunx LUCIFER. And ofcourse, with so much death SIVA is seen in the chart. SIVA squares Venus exact.
ANUBIS trines KAALI-Chiron conjunction exact. He could have used such trine aspects to save lives from death.

Never underestimate the powerful drive of afflicted retrograde Mars in "ACTING" out negative impulses.

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posted August 02, 2010 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Positive Polarities: Proof
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One of the greatest German Criminologists who first discovered "Serial Killer" concepts was Ernst Gennat [1st January 1880].
He has:
Sun conj NESSUS 1.5 degree orb
Pluto opp Venus exact
Mercury conj KAALI exact
Sun square Saturn exact.

To be fair to him, his chart is not water heavy, and he could have heroic Fire Ascendant and Leo Moon.

Many times, the best aspects of a serial killer are also the best aspect of their nemesis Cops.
Just as the aspects of an abuser are similar to the aspects of a victim.

Ernst heped in the cases of 'the vampire of Hanover' Fritz Haarmann, a Scorpio [25th October 1879] and Pter Kurten [26 May 1883].

Fritz Harrmann's Chart:
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1. Pluto conj RETRO Mars conj ALGOL exact.

2. Sun, Mercury, MC, LUST, KAALI conj ANUBIS and SIVA in Scorpio. And Pisces Moon. Duh. He even pretended he was innocent.
KAALI conj ANUBIS exact opposed Dejanira.

3. NESSUS sq Saturn, weak, 3 degree orb.

4. Neptune conj Chiron exact, opposing Mercury weakly.

5. Uranus trine NESSUS exact to the second. Surprise.....

Peter Kurten:
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1. Neptune conj LUST. He performed horrific acts to masturbate. His fantasies must have been even more horrific.

2. Pluto conj Saturn conj Chiron exact

3. Sun square LUCIFER exact

4. Nessus conj Moon exact square KARMA

5. NESSUS exact opp IXION.
Open and shut case.

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posted August 02, 2010 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
I've always wondered what Josef Fritzl's natal looked like with those asteroids mentioned. He was a true monster with no heart, just pure evil as if he was Satan himself.

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posted August 02, 2010 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
IQ

maks a lot of sense what you said IQ.

and yes,our World is only aware of what happens,or only its noticed,when those children either are American,or from an evolved country,wether the ones that were victims of those "evolved" civilizations are always the forgotten ones....

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posted August 02, 2010 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Diablo and Diandra,
Hopefully all the deviants will be analzyed and their exposed charts will help others.
Imagine if Police have charts of all people like Fritzl. Imagine a routine check of all their home's basements or compounds alone. Give them 100 bucks inconvenience fee if nothing is found.
But what if some trapped women are waiting to be rescued? What if we are right even in 1/1000 cases [Only Astrology can narrow it down to a 1000 cases]

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posted August 04, 2010 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Today and next few days, people must try to stay calm and not react to anger.

We have already had a mad shooting spree in Connecticut. Many people may react violently, even at home.

Today:
Mars conj Asteroid LILITH in 3 Libra is exactly opposed to Jupiter and they T-Square retrograde Pluto in 3 Capricorn, with Saturn and Uranus still having the opposition.
People with Sun, Moon and Ascendant in 1 to 5 Cancer should be very "Buddha" like week.

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I'm not sure why Nessus is so negative based on that story. There are many stories in myth of women being raped and kidnapped by Neptune, Pluto and other gods, so Nessus trying to rape her is not all that uncommon.

It's true that Nessus intentionally leads to Hercules' death - but this is something he does in revenge, only after Hercules murders him. Nessus (seemingly) had no initial intent of murdering Dejanira OR Hercules.

So isn't Hercules the bad guy for starting the killing - or at least 'as bad' as Nessus - in this particular story?

:edit: And also - I know Nessus convinces Dejanira to poison Hercules by telling her that the poison will ensure he stays faithful to her. BUT, ultimately - it is her own insecurity that leads her to do this.

I find this story complicated.. I don't think I see anyone as the "bad" guy. They all seem to have done something wrong by the time they die.

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posted August 04, 2010 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Nessus is evil because
1. He betrayed trust and duty. As a ferryman, his duty is safety of the passenger.
2. He tried to sexually abuse a married woman, who was also his passenger.
3. Instead of repentance for his crime, he plotted revenge.

I am certain there are many more dark characters than Nessus in history but as far as Astrological Archetypes go for specifically studying abuse, Nessus ranks number one. Neptune, Pluto etc show their dark side when creating squares, no disagreement about that but they have a vast data set of traits.

We do not have Asteroid "Adolf Hitler" to study genocide, we can only use ALGOL. Like that.

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posted August 04, 2010 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
IQ, I totally agree with you on that point. I would just love to specialise in criminology so I could use astrology and psychology in tandem to profile criminals.

I also wanna kick the ass of social services. Disgrace. How can the let this happen? In modern societies? In these times?

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posted August 04, 2010 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
All this research is for future psychologists/criminologists like you Diablo

Just go through the case of Maybeth Tinning.
Had astrology been used, more than 6 children could have been saved. The establishment did not wake up till 9 kids were clinically finished off. She has a generational Pluto sq Nessus aspect and Nessus quincunx SIVA exact but the murder trigger in her dark chart is Mars, Moon, LUCIFER and Neptune all conjunct, and square Asteroid ARTEMIS, a killer of babies in myth in spite of being the daughter of Zeus.

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posted August 04, 2010 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message
IQ -

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As a ferryman, his duty is safety of the passenger.

I didn't know this part.

But when it comes to the rape - Didn't Neptune rape a few women? I mean he doesn't seem to have such a bad reputation.

And Pluto kidnapped Persephone.

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Instead of repentance for his crime, he plotted revenge.

True - But on the other hand - Hercules murdered him. He wasn't given much time to repent as far as I know reading the story. If we want to be karmic angels - Hercules should have forgiven. Even if we are not karmic angels - murder somehow seems like an exaggerated punishment for a rape.

I do see Nessus as guilty. I am just saying that the others are not angels either in this story.

The way I see it:

Nessus betrays Hercules by raping his wife - and he betrays Dejanira by harming her through rape.

Hercules has a possessive angry reaction and murders Nessus with no forethought - when there may have been more appropriate punishments for what he did. (not murder)

Nessus wants revenge and gives Dejanira the poison (his blood).

Dejanira is insecure of Hercules potentially cheating on her.. She wants to control him and ensure that he never cheats - and thus administers the poison Nessus gives her.

And I just got this from wiki:

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Heracles fathered illegitimate children all across Greece and then fell in love with Iole (also called Omphal). When Deianira thus feared that her husband would leave her forever, she smeared some of the blood on Heracles' famous lionskin shirt.

So Hercules is the "bad guy" again for cheating on her repeatedly and making her insecure.

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posted August 04, 2010 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
There's plenty of cases in my home town that are like that..

eg. The little indian boy who was murdered by the tenants his parents had living in their house. They've gone back to India and are so devastated. I'm so sad this has happened in a city that welcomes immigrants.

This scumbag here picked his 3 little boys up for Fathers Day and drove the car in a dam to drown them to get back at his ex wife http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Farquharson

Oh, and the Mr. Cruel case..he kidnapped kids, drugged them and abused them for a few days before he released them. One of them was a little girl who was found dead. They never found him and don't know who he is, there's no evidence NOTHING and he's still walking the streets here. I remember being a kid seeing all parents worry and never letting their kids out of their site, including me, not even allowed to play in the front yard. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Cruel

The infamous Jayden Leskie case, who was bashed and killed by his mother's boyfriend http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayden_Leskie

Most recently, it only happened last year..the pig who drove his kids to the West Gate Bridge (HUUUGE bridge that a lot of ppl jump off), parked his car and threw his 3yr old girl off the bridge in front of his other children http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/little-girl-hurled-from-melbournes-west-gate-bridge-dies/story-e6freuy9-1111118697693

Oh, and the Daniel Valerio case. This little boy was so badly beaten by his step dad and none of the authorities said anything about it. He died from the most horrific injuries which lead to the state of Victoria making it mandatory for doctors teachers etc to report on children who they thought were being abused http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/children-deserve-better-20 091202-k69o.html

I feel like the batman of Melbourne lol

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posted August 04, 2010 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Neptune afflictions are just as scary, Dynamite. But they are generic and cover a vast array of psychological disorders.
Neptune's Greek version POSEIDON is the number one culprit in Earthquakes with huge body count.

Look at one more open and shut case of Nessus afflicted, celebrity psychopath: Charles Sobhraj http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Sobhraj

He has:
NESSUS conj Mercury exact
NESSUS square Lunar Nodes exact
Sun square DEJANIRA exact [Victimizer]
Saturn square Moon [negative karmic debts]
Mars square Neptune [Seed of mental illness]

What more evidence is needed?
Also, check out Fred West and Rosemary West, exact Nessus opp Mercuries plus many other dark aspects.

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posted August 04, 2010 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
OMG I have the book written by the journalist who covered the Fred and Rosemary West story, I have never been so sick in my life as it goes into grafic detail.

In my opinion, that has to be one of the most sick, twisted, sadistc and tragic cases EVER

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posted August 04, 2010 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Diablo,
If you can access the birth records of all those psychos, and prove the astrological affliction aspects, then someday there can be a petition to make it compulsory to store astro records of all citizens [especially polticians ] in a public database, and give the cops a chance to find missing kids in an area or investigate abusive parents during injury stage itself, before they kill the kids.

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