posted July 31, 2010 02:20 PM         

Here is a post of a theory that I have about Eris. It's not just based on its mythology. It's also based on the orbit.

Based on reading Zane Stein's article and his keywords as well as Roy
MacKinnon's keywords and the charts that I have looked at, I believe
that Eris has to do with stirring stuff up, controversy, ideology,
civil/equal rights matters, standing up for self/others, advocacy,
bigotry, racism, minorities, race relations, diversity, .....all
those things are connected to each other too.

I don't believe that Eris is just about discord and controversy. I
think that there is more to it. That's like saying Pluto is just
about the underworld because Pluto/Hades is the God of the
underworld. Juan Revilla made good points that we can't just rely on
the name of the object for its astrological meaning. Uranus
personality traits fit more with Prometheus than the god, Uranus even
though Uranus/Ouranos was the sky god. Neptune personality traits fit
more with Dionysus/Bacchus even though Neptune/Poseidon was the sea god. I
looked at some asteroid stuff in regards to that. Juan Revilla said
that it's important to consider the orbital symbolism of the objects.
Philip Sedgwick takes into account the nodes and perihelion/aphelion
of the object.

Astronomical-oriented astrologers including Philip Sedgwick, Juan
Revilla, Zane Stein don't rely on the name of objects to derive
meaning from it.

Some of them suggested names to the astronomers that were accepted
for some centaurs after studying their orbits, physical properties.
Nessus was the first. http://www.zanestein.com/page4_2.htm

this is what Philip Sedgwick said
Star Blogs ~ The Galactic Times
Planet With No Name (Yet) ~ 02 Feb 2008

"So if you were Neil Young traversing the desert night sky on a
planet with no name, how could you derive any meaning for it? One,
consider its nature, uniqueness and physical profile. Two, assign
interpretive delineations by pondering the sign and degree of
critical orbital elements, specifically the node and closest point
the body makes to the Sun."

the closest point of the object makes to the sun is called the
Perihelion.

Here is some stuff by Juan Revilla who believes in the orbital
symbolism should be used to determine an object's astrological
meaning and not the name.

ORBITAL SYMBOLISM IN ASTROLOGY http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/essays/paradigm.html

Zane Stein even added Persephone/Proserpina symbolism in his Eris
keywords. Michael Brown wanted to name Eris "Persephone", and he even
said that it was like Persephone. He said that half of the time, Eris
orbits away from Pluto. But the names, "Persephone" and "Proserpina"
were given to asteroids. Obviously, astronomers gave mythological
names too readily. Michael Brown did give the name Eris after all the
discord among the astronomers. Methinks..that there could be
astrologers in discord. Many astrologers don't agree on many things
in Astrology like orbs are hotly debated.

I was thinking how Ceres and Pluto are made equals in Astronomy
because of the discovery of Eris, and how it can seem similar to how
Pluto/Hades and Ceres/Demeter shared equal amount of time with
Proserpina/Persephone.
Pluto got demoted to minor planet and assigned a minor planet number.
Ceres got promoted to dwarf planet. Therefore, Pluto and Ceres are
equals in astronomy. Pluto got the same treatment as Ceres. Ceres was
classed as a planet but got it's planetary status stripped after the
realization that it is one of many objects in the asteroid belt
between Mars and Jupiter. Now Pluto's planetary status is stripped
after the realization that it is one of many objects in the Kuiper
Belt. After they found Eris, the need to make a definition of what
planet had to be made. Astronomers even hypothesize there could be a
dozen Plutos out there and even some Mars-sized objects. Any
ways...Ceres and Pluto were made equals because of Eris, and so
that's one of the reasons that I believe Eris has to do with equal
rights, civil rights issues.. I am seeing Eris in civil rights, equal
rights events....especially involving Black civil rights issues. Eris
can be related to minority rights issues. Eris' Perihelion is in
Libra seems to reflect the equality, fairness, getting along that
Eris seems to call for. Eris' Aphelion in Aries seems to reflect the
war, conflict, aggression, trouble that Eris is known for causing.
Eris' North Node in Taurus seems to reflect the solidarity. It can
also be the stubbornness, materialism that often causes problems in
society and creates division between people. Eris' South Node in
Scorpio seems to reflect the transformation, rebirth, but also
revenge, resentment that often connection to division of humanity and
linked to racism.

When I think of Eris, I think of taking sides, forced to decide between two things, torn between two factions, dilemmas, "If you are not with me, you are against me", betrayal, resentment that happens after choosing a side, creating a bridge,narrowing the gap.

Eris orbits beyond Saturn, and so it seems like it can relate to the metaphysical. It is a kuiper belt object like Pluto, and so it can seem to relate to intensity, transformation, and rebirth. Eris' orbit
is more unusual than Pluto for its not only it's more elliptical, but it is tilted 44.187 degrees relative to the plane of the solar system. Pluto's orbit is only inclined 17 degrees. That would reflect that Eris relates to being a nonconformist as well as being divergent.

Based on reading Zane Stein's article and his keywords as well as Roy MacKinnon's keywords and the charts that I have looked at, I believe that Eris has to do with stirring stuff up, controversy,ideology,civil/equal rights matters, standing up for self/others, advocacy,bigotry, racism, minorities, race relations, diversity, .....all those things are connected to each other too.

It could be racial relations stuff like the racial divide,
interracial relationships, interracial marriages, interracial family
connections,and interracial parentage. It it could be the multiracial. It could even be international relations. It could be
like tolerance/intolerance of divergence, diversity, minorities(not necessarily race, ethnic...but even religion, sexual orientation, etc). It's the intolerance of divergents, diversity, minorities that
lead to equal/civil rights issues.

Roy, Zane, Francisco, and Phil have some very good preliminary
keywords for Eris, and they go well beyond discord. The Eris research
that I did seem to support their keywords.

Roy MacKinnon's Eris' Keywords:
Striving to achieve one's goals and refusing to capitulate to the
pressure of unjust treatment and discord from abusive authority :
with great inner conviction and single-mindedness of purpose
following a path of high attainment and enlightenment notwithstanding
adversity - alternatively refusing the call to transform with
mediocrity and underachievement as consequences: issues around power
abuse of minorities, the defenceless, the alien: networks,
multinational countries and companies, the world- wide web: piracy,
terrorism, clash of ideologies: conflict between desires of
personality and pursuit of the inner call: persecution of the
spiritually aware person who stands alone courageously acting
according to conscience: an outstanding individual ahead of the
times.

Zane Stein's Eris Keywords:
Loss of innocence, entrance into adulthood; child's trauma being
separated from parent; acceptance of unavoidable changes; dying and
being reborn (as opposed to Pluto which rules the causes/processes of
death and rebirth); internal split causing longing to be whole, the
longing of the soul for its other half; the subject/object of a
debate, argument, competition, conflict or war...what stirs people to
fight or disagree; fighting for one's rights; strife and discord;
pitting one side against the other; competition, contests and
tournaments; struggles for supremacy; rivalry; a test of skills or
abilities; love of fighting or debate; what one has at stake in a
competition, dispute or conflict, or one's perspective of what is
being fought over; refusing to relinquish one's hold on an ideal,
belief, cause, or object...'not budging an inch'; the problems
resulting from irreconcilable differences; contrasting different
perspectives; comparing thesis and antithesis in the search for
truth; contrasting opposing viewpoints to reveal each side more
clearly, to seek similarities as well as differences; contrasting
logical thought processes to show the limitations of logic;
identifying with, or trying to understand, first principles;
incongruous juxtapositions to force one to think outside of the box;
the ethics connected with one's motives and methods, and the coming
to light of less than spotless methods; the roots of one's
motivations; piracy, defrauding, swindling; society's ethics; race
intent.

Francesco Schiavinotto's Keywords:
Dam; Damming; Obstruction; Obliteration; To be opposite; Aversion for
the Extraneous; To obstacle the Alien; False Adaption between
Different Matters; Reciprocal Aversion; Feeling to be Invaded;
Resistance; Incommunicability; Controversial Figure; Ecological
Incompatibility; Underground Instability

It's Eris' Co-Discoverer, Michael Brown that seemed to give the clue
to Eris' meaning

"She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them
think their opinions are right and everyone else's is wrong, " Brown
said. "It really is just perfect." )
www-tech.mit.edu/V126/N38/38shorts2.html

That seems to fit with controversy,ideology,diversity,divergence,considerate/inconsiderate of viewpoints/opinions/beliefs/values,bigotry,terrorism, redefining
boundaries)......Honestly, I think that it not only fits with any belief system but also even Astrology(look at how much diversity is in Astology that involves so much disagreement that even Steven
Forrest ,who has Moon conjunct Eris, refers to the issue as Tower Babel and stated that the idea of "One True Astrology" is a myth and destructive). I even think that Eris might even be a co-ruler of Astrology.

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Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted July 31, 2010 02:21 PM         

I believe that some of Eris' characteristics have been assigned to Uranus,and I know that this view is very controversial and ridiculous view to astrologer. What would many Vedic Astrologers and Classical Astrologers say about Modern Astrologers use of the outerplanets which aren't in their systems? They would say that they don't need the outerplanets because they already have the traditional 7 planets as well as the lunar nodes.

What would many Astronomers say about Astrologers in general? well......they would say that we are a bunch of pseudoscientists that are using inaccurate zodiac and that we are fraudulent and delusional for practicing such nonsense.

The traits of Uranus seem to be traits of Mercury,Jupiter,Saturn. Uranus can relate to Mercury because it's intellectual,nervous energy. It is also considered the high octave of Mercury. Like Uranus rules Aquarius,Mercury rules Gemini. Uranus can relate to Jupiter in regards to progression,freedom with Jupiter ruling the freedom-oriented,progressive sign Sagittarius. Uranus could possibly relate to Saturn with Saturn's traditional rulership of Aquarius which is a fixed sign and in that sense shares some rigidity with Saturn. I even think that Uranus and Saturn could possibly share some detachment. I believe that Vedic Astrologers do view Saturn as a detachment type of planet in some respects. They would see that my Moon in Aquarius aspected by Saturn indicates detachment in my Vedic Chart. They put mainly emphasis on Ketu(South Lunar Node) as detachment. They don't need to use Uranus to see detachment in charts. They also tend to see Rahu(North Lunar Node) as unconventional too,and they don't need to see Uranus for that. They would see my Rahu in 6th house as unconventional about work,service like Mars in Aquarius in 6th is viewed as that in Western Astrology.

The traits of Neptune seem to be traits of Moon,Jupiter,and Venus. Neptune can relate to Moon because it's sensitivity,dreams,and the unconscious. Some say Neptune is collective unconscious and Moon is personal unconscious. Neptune is exalted in Moon's sign,Cancer. Neptune can relate to Jupiter because of its idealism...especially with Jupiter's traditional rulership of Pisces which has been assigned to. Both Jupiter and Neptune are exalted in Cancer. Neptune can relate to Venus because it's aesthetic,relating to beauty,love. Venus is more about personal love and Neptune is more about collective or universal love. Neptune is considered the high octave of Venus. Neptune is said to be the mystic,but Ketu(South Lunar Node) is used as the mystical planet in Vedic Astrology. They would see my Ketu in Cancer in 12th as a mystical placement like Western Astrologers would see my Moon in Pisces(square its dispositor,Neptune) as one.

The traits of Pluto seem to be traits of Mars and Saturn. Pluto can relate to Saturn with it being seen by some as a dark planet. Saturn was the traditional planet of death,and now that's been assigned to Pluto.
Pluto can relate to Mars as it can be aggressive,passionate...especially with Mars' traditional rulership of Scorpio which has been assigned to Pluto. Vedic Astrologers tend to see Rahu(North Lunar Node) in regards to being very passionate in the way Pluto is. Pluto is considered the high octave of Mars. Another interesting thing is that both Mars and Saturn are considered to be malefics in classical and Vedic Astrology. Interestingly, Mars/Saturn midpoint is known as the death axis in Cosmobiology. That also makes me think of Pluto having a Mars/Saturn combo energy. Pluto was assigned the rulership of Scorpio which is the sign that Pluto's Perihelion has been in for many centuries. Coincidence? I don't think so.

Vedic Astrologers contribute the outerplanet energies to Rahu(North Lunar Node),Ketu(South Lunar Node) and Saturn. I have already mentioned some examples of that.

I believe that modern Astrologers that negatively criticize astrologers that use Eris would be no different from Vedic Astrologers and Classical Astrologers that criticize astrologers for using the outerplanets. Of course, it wouldn't be any different from astronomers that negatively criticize astrologers.

Astrology has really diverged from Astronomy since the Discovery of Uranus. Astrologers differ in their views,and there is a lot of disagreement about what methods to use. I believe that it's better to agree to disagree. It would be nice if astrologers even think of other astrological systems as equal and not viewing them as inferior,inaccurate,nor nonsense. Like I said before,many astrologers think of Uranus as stirring stuff up,controversy, and even one astrologer
contributed racism to Uranus,but I am convinced that is Eris.
Not only is their discord among astronomers but discord among astrologers.

I feel that all this relates to Eris which I believe rules Astrology along with Uranus. Astrology is a controversial subject in mainstream society.

I believe that Eris has to do with divergence,diversity more than Uranus does. Wars are fought because of differences in views,opinions,and beliefs.
People fought others that are different from them. People had that "you're wrong and I am right" mentality, and I see that going on in regards to morals,ethics,religion,politics,education,scientific fields,relationships,the food that we eat...I hate to say,but I see it in Astrology too. Even Steven Forrest who has a close Moon-Eris conjunction says that there is a Tower of Babel going on among astrologers,and he pointed out that the idea of one true Astrology is a myth and destructive. It's often thinking that one is better than the other which can lead to superiority-inferiority issues. This is what can lead to equal/civil rights issues. Then people feel the need to stand up for themselves and fight for their rights. They end up being advocates which astrologers assign to Uranus. I think that advocacy and activism are mixed up. I think activism is more linked to wanting to get changes made and even progress. It can even be independence to some degree. Abolitionism would seem like Uranus, but the whole slavery thing is based on ideology leading to the superiority-inferiority issues.

Dr. Michael E. Brown, a professor of planetary astronomy at the California Institute of Technology who discovered the distant ball of ice and rock that he nicknamed Xena and that had been designated 2003 UB313, chose the name Eris, after the goddess of discord and strife in Greek mythology.

“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” http://tech.mit.edu/V126/N38/38shorts2.html

Don't many people do that on our planet today? Of course they do, this has been going on for centuries,millenniums. Many arguments,fights,battles,and wars(including civil and world wars) have occurred because of intolerance of people's differences in some form or another.

It seems all about ideology,diversity,equality matters in general. Eris can be about "-isms"

Intolerance of diversity is the greatest problem on our planet.

Even consider its orbit. Uranus' orbit eccentricity is 0.044 405 586, but Eris' orbit eccentrity is 0.441 77. Therefore, Eris' orbit is more eccentric than Uranus' orbit. It would be logical to think that Eris more eccentric than Uranus in its astrology. Uranus orbital inclination is 0.772 556°, but Eris orbit is 44.187°. Eris' orbit is more inclined. Uranus' orbit mean anomaly is 142.955 717°,but Eris' orbit mean anomaly is 197.634 27°. Eris' orbit is more of an anomaly than Uranus. Conclusion of Eris being more of an anomaly than Uranus in regards to Astrological characteristics makes sense to me. Uranus travels on the ecliptic like all the other planets do. Eris travels far off the ecliptic plane,and is in the the constellation of Cetus which is not one of the zodiac constellations. Uranus doesn't have a highly elliptical orbit like Eris does. Unlike Uranus,Eris is a scattered disk object. Of course, Eris is far smaller than Uranus but larger than Pluto. Eris is a lot more divergent than Uranus can ever be. Eris doesn't fit in with the other planets just like the mythological Eris didn't fit in with the major Greek deities. Therefore it makes perfect sense for me to consider divergence and diversity can be keywords for Eris.

Pluto got to be classed as a planet for over 40 years, but larger Eris didn't get to be classed as a planet, and that mirrors how mythological Eris was a minor goddess who wasn't invited to the wedding of King Peleus and Thetis who were the parents of Achilles who fought in the Trojan War. She was being discriminated against because she was this bad nasty goddess who caused trouble. However, even the major gods/goddesses weren't all innocent. They were known for causing a lot of trouble and being nasty and cruel to mortals and to each other. How can Eris' exclusion for being a troublemaker be justified? Certainly,Ares,the God of War, was a nasty,cruel troublemaker,and he was included in the wedding. To me, Eris' throwing the golden apple not only exposed the petty vanities of the goddesses, but also showed how they were a bunch of hypocrites that weren't perfect. Paris awarded the golden apple to Aphrodite who was so promiscuous and didn't care about her own marriage vows with Hephaestus,getting it on with Ares as well as other gods and even mortals like Anchises(father of her son,Aeneas who fought in Trojan War,mythical ancestor of Rome),she promised Paris, the most beautiful woman in the world,Helen, but she was married to King Menelaus of Sparta. I would think that would make Aphrodite a troublemaker and just as dishonorable as Eris. She was held in high regard because of her great beauty,being the Goddess of Beauty and not just Love. Eris was the ugly goddess,and so didn't get a free ride like Aphrodite did. Of course, Aphrodite was far more attracted to the handsome vain,cruel,bloodthirsty Ares than to his ugly hardworking,humble,good-natured brother Hephaestus. To me, Eris can be seen as somebody who is "ugly" but who exposes the ugliness and hypocrisy of people who are "beautiful." To put it bluntly, Eris can be about showing a person who thinks his/her crap doesn't stink really does stink.
Eris doesn't seem to care about the status quo which is based on the majority of what people think is right and what is wrong just like rules and laws which aren't always fair and just. Eris seems to challenge the self-righteousness of others and expose their hypocrisy.

Because of the discovery of Eris, Pluto was demoted to minor planet just like Ceres had been demoted to minor planet. Now Ceres and Pluto are now equals for they are both assigned minor planet numbers and classed as dwarf planets. That's because of the discovery of Eris. Just think how Pluto/Hades and Ceres/Demeter shared time with Proserpina/Persephone in Roman/Greek mythology.
Proserpina/Persephone was away from Hades/Pluto for half of the year to be with her mother,Demeter/Ceres.

This is what Eris' co-discover said in reference to naming Eris when it was just nicknamed Xena.
"Interestingly, there are no actual rules for how to name a planet (presumably because no one expected there to be more). All of the other planets are named for Greek or Roman gods, so an obvious suggestion is to attempt to find such a name for the new planet. Unfortunately, most of the Greek or Roman god names (particularly those associated with creation, which tend to be the major gods) were used back when the first asteroids were being discovered. If a name is already taken by an asteroid, the IAU would not allow that name to be used again. One such particularly apt name would have been Persephone. In Greek mythology Persephone is the (forcibly abducted) wife of Hades (Roman Pluto) who spends six months each year underground close to Hades. The new planet is on an orbit that could be described in similar terms; half of the time it is in the vicinity of Pluto and half of the time much further away. Sadly, the name Persephone was used in 1895 as a name for the 399th known asteroid. The perhaps more appropriate Roman version of the name, Proserpina, was used even earlier for the 26th known asteroid. The same story can be told for almost any other Greek or Roman god of any consequence. One exception to this name depletion is the Roman god Vulcan (Greek Haphaestus), the god of fire. Astronomers have long reserved that term, however, for a once hypothetical (now known to be nonexistent) planet closer to the sun than Mercury (god of fire, near the sun, good name). We would not want to use such a name to describe such a cold body as our new planet!" www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/planetlila/

I checked out any Eris activity during the discovery of Uranus which could reflect that Eris' energy was also involved and that some of its characteristics were assigned to Uranus. Maybe Astrologers picked up on Eris' energy when it was considering Uranus' role in Astrology.

Uranus discovery chart:
March 13, 1781
Bath,England
12:00 PM..not sure of actual time

Mercury in 11'10 Aries
Eris in 13'54 Capricorn
(The Mercury square Eris could relate to perceptions linked to Eris that helped Uranus be discovered which lead to causing disorder in organization of perceptions of the old solar system just like Eris' discovery led to disorder in organization of perceptions of what constitutes a planet leading to Pluto being demoted from major planet to minor planet,and made equals with Ceres with both Pluto and Ceres being classed as dwarf planets. This aspect could be about divergent,diverse communications,mental activity,ideas.)

I checked to see if any connections to Geocentric Eris Nodes as well as Heliocentric Nodes

Venus in 2'21 Pisces
sextile North Eris Node in 2'21 Taurus
trine South Eris Node in 3'39 Scorpio
sextile/trine Heliocentric Nodes in 2'34 Taurus/Scorpio
This could be values,love,relationships connected to the collective issues of diversity,discord,equal rights
(so Uranus Discovery chart's Venus trines South Eris Node and sextiles the North Eris Node
note: The Eris North Node is sextile its dispositor,Venus...so a double whammy of Eris Node-Venus.)

I checked the Heliocentic Chart (After all..there is such thing as heliocentric Astrology...Philip Sedgwick has a book on it called Sun At The Center..I have that book too)

Heliocentric Mercury in 2'00 Cancer
sextile/trine Heliocentric Eris Nodes in 2'34 Scorpio
(This could be communications,mental activity,ideas that are connected to the collective issues of diversity,discord,equal rights)
Heliocentric Mercury is also the dispositor of the Heliocentric North Uranus Node in 12'50 Gemini

Heliocentric Mars in 13'26 Scorpio
sextile Heliocentric Eris in 12'44 Capricorn
(this could be activity that is diverse,divergent)

Heliocentric Eris also squares its own Perihelion/Aphelion in 11'50 Libra/Aries

I checked to see connections to Eris Perigree/Apogee axis

Perigree:The point nearest the Earth in the orbit of a planet or other celestial body.

Apogee: The point furthest from the Earth in the orbit of a planet or other celestial body.

Mercury is in 11'10 aries
Eris Apogee is in 11'40 aries
Eris Perigree is in 12'18 libra

So Mercury is aspected to not only Eris but Eris perigree/apogee axis and Heliocentric Mercury aspected to Heliocentric Eris Nodes suggesting that Uranus is connected to Eris and that astrologers were picking up on Erisian energy in Uranus and assigning some characteristics to Uranus that actually belong to Eris.

Could it be that the discovery of Uranus that ended up causing controversy,chaos in regards to view of the solar system which also ended up turning astrologers into not only minorities and outcasts from the academic,science fields but also created diversity,divergence in Astrology(for instance,some astrologers don't use the outerplanets and think that's the only right way to do Astrology) is linked to Eris? I believe that's the case. I believe that Eris could be co-ruler of Astrology along with Uranus.

another thing.......

if you check Eris' Perihelion/Aphelion axis and Heliocentric Uranus Nodes today

Perihelion - the point of a body's orbit that is closest to the Sun

Aphelion - the point of a body's orbit that is farthest from the Sun

The Eris Perihelion/Aphelion axis and Heliocentric Uranus Nodes are always trine each other. They are very much connected. That means that the energy of Eris and Uranus are connected to each other too.

If you check the day that Uranus was discovered....

Eris Perihelion/Aphelion axis in 11'50 Libra/Aries
trine Heliocentric Uranus Nodes in 12'50 Gemini/Sagittarius

I also find it interesting that Eris' North Node is in Taurus and Perihelion is in Libra, both signs ruled by Venus. This to me, can seem to mirror the mythological symbolism of the connection of Eris and Aphrodite with Aphrodite,born from the spot where Ouranos' detached genitals(severed by Cronos' sickle) were thrown in the sea, getting so much respect for her beauty and that she was one of the 12 major Greek deities(think of astronomical Venus' much larger size), but Eris, twin sister of Ares as well as daughter of Zeus and Hera didn't get to be to be included as a major Greek deity but was a minor deity(think of astronomical Eris' much smaller size) with her being ugly.

To me, it's like Eris demanding some equal treatment.

Eris saying "Let that materialistic bimbo rule Taurus, and let me rule Libra."

Of course, Eris' North Node and Perihelion placement mirrors the mythological symbolism of Eris' throwing the golden apple in the wedding with Aphrodite's claim, competition,and the award of it which led to discord,war,hatred,killing,death,revenge between the Greeks and Trojans. This seems to reflect the Nodal axis in Taurus/Scorpio and Perihelion/Aphelion axis in Libra/Aries.

There are clues to Eris characteristics from not only mythology and but also astronomy.

Astrologers don't need to depend on the name of an object to find meaning to it. They can use orbital and physical features for clues. Astronomically-oriented astrologers like Philip Sedgwick,Juan Revilla make that point.

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Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted July 31, 2010 02:51 PM         

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html

I can strongly relate.

I have Sun in 5'20 Scorpio conjunct the Geocentric South Eris Node in 5'29 Scorpio and oppose the Geocentric North Eris Node in 5'30 Taurus.

In Heliocentric chart (Higher Self),I have
Earth in 5'20 Taurus conjunct/oppose the Heliocentric Eris Nodes in 5'30 Taurus/ Scorpio.
I was born during a very strong Sun-Earth-Eris Node alignment. I am very strongly connected to collective Eris matters of diversity,equality,discord,controversy.

Winona Ryder was born on the same day as me,and so she has the same Sun-Earth-Eris Node alignment as I do.

I also have Eris in 12'15 Aries R conjunct Chiron in 10'32 Aries R in 8th, sextile/trine Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius with 1'01 orb and sextile/trine Lunar Nodes in 10'30 Aquarius/Leo in 5th/11th.

Mercury biqintile Eris with 6 minutes of arc

Moon semisquare Eris with 7 minutes of arc in Right Ascension.
Venus quincunx Eris with 10 minutes of arc in Right Ascension.

I think a positive of way to use Eris' energy is to be an advocate about something but considering other's viewpoints too, being able to agree to disagree, but also an ability to bridge gaps.

Eris doesn't have to be about controversy and discord.

I had a falling out with my non profit vice president/secretary. He turned out to be discordant,controversial in how he is so opinionated and turns people off. He made enemies with people in autism biomed community all in the name of neurodiversity. He is very divisive. This guy turns out to have Venus square Eris within 1 degree.

I don't want to be an advocate in that way. My Neurodiversity advocacy involves creating bridges between people, considering people's viewpoints but not budging when it comes to my own. It is also about offering my own viewpoints but in a way that it doesn't offend others. However, an alternative viewpoint can easily offend people just for being differing from their own. We really see this when it comes to politics and religion. I can tell a certain Republican that I believe that Obama is right for the country, and I'd get slammed as being a person that supports a Marxist Socialist that wants to destroy America.

Even if I advocate neurodiversity in a way that is considerate, there are always going to be people that will be angry just because they are against neurodiversity. I could even get death threats and be killed. Just going against the status quo can make a person very controversial whether they are being Dr. Martin Luther King Jr-like or Malcolm X-like. I do prefer to take the former approach.

There is fine line between giving alternative viewpoints and offending people because they don't like what you say or stuffing things down people's throats.

There are people that talk about certain things, and they expect others to take it as truth. If somebody gives an alternative viewpoint, that person often gets accused of not seeing the truth.

Even if offering a viewpoint about something can offend somebody. This definitely goes especially if you give a negative opinion about a religion,political belief,or a country. Giving a negative opinion about race is probably the one that stirs up the most crap.

How many times do humans call others "stupid" just for expressing their alternative views. A whole lot. It's a natural thing for us humans to put other fellow humans down and thinking we are superior to others based on what we think is true and false.

Diversity is not the problem. Intolerance of Diversity is the problem. How do we know if somebody is being intolerant of diversity? The person may be tolerant of diversity, but his expressing his opinion could be misconstrued as intolerance of diversity.

It's all relative imho

It's not a coincidence that Albert Einstein had the following in his chart which is something Astrologers would not have known until after the 21st Century and not looking from different perspectives.

Eris in 14'40 Pisces in 10th
conjunct Midheaven in 12'50 Pisces
square Moon in 14'31 Sagittarius in 6th

in Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude Coordinate)which is the actual coordinate that astronomers use to find objects in the sky:

Eris in 2'53 Aries
conjunct Mercury in 3'02 Aries
conjunct Saturn in 4'52 Aries

It's no coincidence that the person that came up with the theory of relativity had a very strong Eris influence overall.

Also Albert Einstein was thought to have been a neurodivergent ( Some thought that he had Dyslexia. Some thought he had ADHD. Some thought he had Aspergers or High Functioning Autism). Whether he was or not, he definitely was a person who was known for being both gifted and nonconformist. He didn't care for the status quo.

My best friend, Steve is a shaman,healer,massage therapist/bodyworker of half Native American ancestry. He is a neurodivergent like me for he has Dyslexic,Dyspraxic,ADHD symptoms/traits like I do. He was in special education classes just like me. He can strongly relate to the Indigo stuff like I do. He doesn't believe that Indigos and Crystals are in every generation.
He and I share things in common as metaphysically oriented neurodivergents that have a special education past. We share some racial/ethnic minority background in common for I am part black African and part Native American. Therefore, both of us have strong evolutionary intensified lessons in diversity,equality.

He has the following in his chart:
Eris in 9'21 Aries
conjunct Sun in 9'47 Aries
conjunct Mercury in 6'24 Aries R
square Moon in 7'07 Capricorn.

In Heliocentric Chart (Higher Self):
Eris in 9'21 Aries
oppose Sun in 9'47 Libra

I believe that I met this strong Eris person for him to help me deal with my collective Eris energies in a constructive way and prepare for my path as a neurodiversity advocate. He was meant to help me learn the lessons of Eris.

I first met him through an intuitive consultant who told me that my life purpose is to help the Indigo,Crystal children. He was recommended to me for him to do healing work on me to prepare me for my life purpose as neurodiversity advocate.

I am also friends with a woman that also has Sun conjunct Eris less than 1 degree like Steve. She can also relate to the Indigo stuff for she is also a neurodivergent with Dyslexia and ADHD. She is also into metaphysical,New Age things. I told her about Steve. He has done healing work on her, and they are good friends now. He certified her in Reiki. She is white,but she is into racial,ethnic,cultural diversity.

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Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted July 31, 2010 04:10 PM         

i have loaded problems with the relationship with my mother, but beside that, i do often get torn apart emotionally by conflicting factors and get misunderstood around this area. i also have struggled with my identity/roots and stereotypes through out my life. as a child, i had to put up with others' jealousy because of the false impression that they thought i was more fortunate than they were. all my life, i tend to give people the impression i am "different" (positive or negative) for no apparent reason, but it might have to do with the fact Neptune is conjunct my AC, though widely too.

posted July 31, 2010 04:31 PM         

same here

in regards to stuff with my mom

in our composite chart:

Eris in 10'30 Aries
square Moon in 11'01 Capricorn
square Orcus in 11'25 Cancer
(T-Square)

Orcus is also a transneptunian like Eris. It's a plutino,and so it's very similar to Pluto. It's named after the Etruscan God of the Underworld, and so Pluto's counterpart.

There has always been a lot of discord in my relationship with my mother. As a white woman that had me from a black man and who was married to a man that was part black, she and I experienced racial prejudice from others.

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Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement