posted August 05, 2010 11:12 AM         

The Sphinx plays a role, as well as the mentioning of bull, man, eagle and lion.

Simultaneiously secret lodges do.

As well as clear references to the Nazi regimes (it is never being actually SPOKEN OUT, but it`s unmissable in the film).

BTW the bull, eagle, man and lion are indicative of four human groups AND correlate with the four fixed signs, which are related to each other through the antiscion axis, too.

I was wondering now, will the astrology of this film or its first viewing show this, too?

Will asteroid ATLANTIS be strong?
The fixed signs prominent?

Will the asteroid SPHINX be heavily aspected and probably GIZA, too, as it seems to relate to Atlantis, too?

Will the "Illuminati-degree" of 29-30 Capricorn play a role?

Will KAALI do? (as there was a strong note of human sacrifices to establish rebirth)

Will ALDEBARAN (fixed stars, commonly associated with the Nazi regime, though I have no clue, why) be on the ASC, MC, Sun, Moon, Nodes or Karma?

There is only one way to find out, isn`t there?

EDIT:
I understand now why the Sphinx played such a role. It COMBINES those four groups!

posted August 05, 2010 12:00 PM         

On antiscia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiscia

on contrascia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contra-antiscion
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/018644.html

posted August 05, 2010 12:02 PM         

It`s not being mentioned. it`s being shown.

I always pay attention to the little details nowadays, figurines in the background, mosaiques on the ground - they sip into your subconsciousness and if someone wanted to get a message across through a film, it probably would be that way, not through the conscious spoken word.

Anyway, I am, NOT saying they wanted to bring a message across.

posted August 05, 2010 04:27 PM         

NOthing on Aldebaran - luckily.

Kaali is not particularly strong, but it is on the antiscion of Pluto and on the contrascion of ATLANTIS.
So actually KAALI is reflecting the ATLANTIS-PLUTO-opposition which is very exact.
So, is KAALI in the background, pulling the strings, unseen?

Atlantis seems to be pretty heavily aspected though:

exactly opposing Pluto
square Saturn
quinkunx Moon and Karma
trine Pallas

This T-square of ATLANTIS, PLUTO and Saturn looks ominous.
There seems to be some (collective?) Karma attached to this, as Atlantis is aspecting Saturn AND Karma.

Sabian of Atlantis:
A Man Bundled In Fur Leads A Shaggy Deer

Sabian of Pluto:
A Human Soul, In Its Eagerness For New Experiences, Seeks Embodiment

Sabian of Saturn:
Around A Campfire A Group Of Young People Sit In Spiritual Communion

Then of course I noticed the ASC exactly trine MC and Wisdom, and DESC losely conjunct NN.

ASC on 18 Cancer:
A Priest Performing A Marriage Ceremony

lol (however, this is of course only valid if they really started the premiere at the mentioned time).

Wisdom and MC both on 18 Pisces
A Master Instructing His Disciple

this is a film, meant to entertain, not to "instruct".

Then there is of course Moon exactly conjunct Karma in the 5th house of entertainment, with Moon ruling the chart. LOL How fitting!
But then again, does it mean that this film somehow served some karmic debt?

Sabian of 2 Sag is:
Two Men Playing Chess

How fitting for that verbal and mental sparring of Holmes and Watson!

BTW Pallas Sabian is interesting, too
A Delicate Bottle Of Perfume Lies Broken, Releasing Its Fragrance

Did some more information leak out than what was intended to?

Then we have Sphinx opposing Angel
Sphinx:
A Group Of Rabbits Dressed in Human Clothes Walk As If On Parade

LOL is that referring to the "showworld circus"?

Angel is on my natal Venus with the Sabian of:
A Veiled Prophet Speaks, Seized By The Power Of A God

Then I see Giza conjunct Lucifer,trine Neptune and Jupiter and squaring Logos.
Not sure how to interprete that though.

Mars is on 19 Leo
Zuni Indians Perform A Ritual To The Sun

the NN (on my Sun-Moon-mp. lol) has the Sabian of:
By Accepting Defeat Gracefully, A General Reveals Nobility Of Character

What does that mean in this context?

posted August 05, 2010 05:02 PM         

Let`s start with Guy:
Unfortunately his birthtime is unknown.

What stands out to me is:

Sun-Jupiter-conjunction in methodical Virgo - not bad for a director I think, a combination of enthusiasm and motivation and realism and practicality

KARMA is almost on 15 Scorpio - which is the axis that Quinnie has found to be probably associated with Atlantis, I think.
And through reflection / antiscion axis, the same would go for the axis in the middle of Leo - Aquarius.
SAbian:
Children Playing Around Five Mounds Of Sand

It is sextile his Sun-Jupiter-conjunction.

ATLANTIS itself is on 9 Capricorn, of the midpoint of the Venus-True Node-opposition, and thus squaring both.
Atlantis:
An Albatross Feeding From The Hand Of A Sailor

Venus:
A Professor Peering Over His Glasses At His Students
SN:
Having Passed Through Narrow Rapids, A Canoe Reaches Calm Waters

NN:
A Teacher Gives New Symbolic Forms To Traditional Images

(which probably describes his directing and filming style quite accurately, at least that is what I have read).

KAALI conjuncts ANGEL and opposes SATURN
- karmic issues?
And LOGOS is squaring that opposition
a secret, yet blocked and probably subconscious knowledge?
LOGOS sextiles Pluto and trines Neptune though; maybe some very good psychic antennas?

Kaali:
An Eagle And A Large White Dove Change Into Each Other

(The eagle was part of the four human groups in ATlantis, relating to the sign of Scorpio, where Guy`s Karma is).

Angel:
The Sight Of An Autumn Leaf Brings To A Pilgrim The Sudden Revelation Of The Mystery Of Life And Death
(isn`t that on Spica-ARcturus?)

Saturn:
The Possibility For Man To Gain Experience At Two Levels Of Being

Logos:
A Woman And Two Men Castaways On A Small Island Of The South Seas

GIZA exact conjunct CHIRON close to the Ariespoint
A Comedian Reveals Human Nature
lol
This trines Sphinx on 2 Leo:

DNA squares SPHINX in Leo.
DNA Sabian:
A Clear Mountain Stream

All in all that chart gives me a feeling of "intuitive, almost psychic intellectualism".
Being guided without probably even being aware of that.
Plus maybe a past line in Atlantis.
And something about passing knowledge or information seems to be a theme.

posted August 05, 2010 05:14 PM         

Tr IC on Guy`s Sun-Jupiter-conjunction: he is at the heart of this film, without his enthusiasm and creative work there would have been no film at all!

Tr Mars and Tr Spirit conjunct his Mars

Tr SN on his Logos

Tr Angel almost conjunct his Atlantis
Tr Sphinx opposing his Atlantis

Tr Logos conjunct his Pluto

posted August 05, 2010 06:30 PM         

Yes, the ingenuity / writing of that movie is hilarious!!!

The fiance of Jude really annoyed me.

I can't see charts b/c I am at work and they block the images........Also, I know nothing about Asteroids, and Sabian symbols......You guys are soooo into Asteroids, always talking about them so much lately, and I feel like I am reading a foreign language!

Anyhow I hope you .........

posted August 05, 2010 06:39 PM         

as I see it asteroids add colour to a basic interpretation, and specify certaint hings.
But of course people have all kind of opinions on asteroids.

posted August 05, 2010 07:19 PM         

Yeah I know major aspects in synastry but not asteroids........there isn't much written about them online, is there?

I have Solar Fire but accidentally deleted it from my computer and now it won't reinstall I am sooooooo bummed.......paid $300 for it years ago!!!

Anyhow I am off in 10 mins to my busy after-work life......been fun chatting, until tomorrow, have a good one!!!

posted August 06, 2010 07:57 AM         

° Moon conjunct LUCIFER on 20 Taurus in 10th house
"A Finger Pointing To A Line In An Open Book"

I am not completely convinced about Lucifer being the "bad guy" in any case, here I think might be Rob`s very individualistic traits being indicated. Lucifer who does not care for what others do, but doing "his own thing".

This is squared my Neptune on 19 Scorpio and Spirit on 22 Scorpio

A Woman Draws Away Two Dark Curtains Closing The Entrance To A Sacred Pathway
and
A Rabbit Metamorphoses Into A Nature Sprit

Again there are objects near the fixed signs axis.
the sabian seems to indicate his potential to transform and metamorphosis. Something he definitely has proven in the past.
Neptune opposing Moon and Lucifer; as we all probably know drugs have been his temptation

his Neptune exactly trine Chiron - he probably has the potential for healing

ASC is on 11 Leo with PALLAS exact conjunct KARMA On 13 Aquarius (on the antiscion axis of his Moon/Lucifer-Neptune/Spirit opposition!)
This looks quite powerful to me. And again the fixed signs are emphasised.

ASC Sabian
An Evening Party Of Adults On A Lawn Illumined By Fancy Lanterns

he likes to party, doesn`t he?

But the DESC Sabian
On A Vast Staircase Stand People Of Different Types, Graduated Upward

And the KARMA-PALLAS Sabian
A Train Entering A Tunnel

He didn`t pick an easy way, did he?
And probably it`s through relationships that he comes into contact with all of this.

Sun-Venus-conjunction sextiles this Karma-Pallas-conjunction on the difficult Sabian. So I guess that might be supportive.

ATLANTIS on 0 Pisces squares DNA on 29 Taurus - very interesting, does that indicate a past life on Atlantis? Probably one that was quite difficult, too.

KAALI square ANGEL exact
Kaali Sabian:
Indians On The Warpath. While Some Men Row A Well-Filled Canoe, Others In It Perform A War Dance

Angel:
A Triangle With Wings

Kaali also trines Midheaven exact:
A Widow At An Open Grave
:shuddering:

NN is on the antiscion of Logos, with square to Pluto and Sun respectively. Sun and Pluto being quinkunx. He probably had to defeat many inner demons before he could profit from his Logos. Or did Logos help defeat the demons (after all it is sextile Pluto) AFTER he learned to not take himself so important (Logos square Sun)?

And yes, of course I saw the Mars-Uranus-Pluto conjunction at the 2nd house cusp opposing Saturn on the 8th house, but I thought that was so obvious it does need not being mentioned.

LOGOS Sabian
A Man Studying A Mandala In Front Of Him, With The Help Of A Very Ancient Book

There is a Grand Water trine, consisting of Giza, Chiron and Neptune / Spirit.
Adding that to the other things, he seems to have very good spiritual antennas, but probably can only make use of them after going through the life experiences as he did.
Probably he uses that psychic awareness and empathy to melt with his rather exhausting characters.