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raspberri
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posted August 05, 2010 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
So I met someone and his Venus is exactly conjunct my Pluto and he is literally obsessed with me! But I really don't feel the same way. He doesn't even know anything about astrology and he admitted to being obsessed with me. He said he thinks about me 24/7...

I knew Pluto wasn't the one obsessed. He just does the transforming.

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Nephthys
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posted August 05, 2010 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message

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electricmind
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posted August 05, 2010 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
i'm seeing someone whose mars is exactly conjunct my pluto -- in scorpio at that! i wldnt say he is obsessed but he is focused on me. oh! and to top it all off, his sun is square my pluto too. i've got venus trine his pluto and my mars sextile his pluto. plus lots of planets in each others, plutonian/8th house.


its actually good for me right now!
yay pluto!

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Ami Ann
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posted August 05, 2010 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message

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racole12
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posted August 05, 2010 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
I have only had the Pluto/Venus aspect with 2 people... and I'm the Pluto person...

the first one it was Venus conj Pluto (only off by a couple minutes) and he was obsessed with me- thought I was his twin flame. It took him 2 yrs to actually tell me how he felt, but I didn't feel the same about him anymore (I liked him for the 2 yrs he was obsessed with me) but now we are friends

the second one was Venuc opp Pluto (only off by a couple mins too) also obsessed with me from afar (we've been friends for 12 yrs- was extremely close when we were in college) when he finally expressed his feelings this year we had a very intense romantic period, which totally freaked him out and he disappeared on me. Now he is back to watching me from afar but not communicating with me... hopefully he'll get over it so we can be friends again...

in both situations I have been a trigger for transformation for both of them...

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savanna20
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posted August 05, 2010 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message
According to skyview zone, it's Pluto who's obsessed.

"What does it mean to your relationship when your natal Pluto is sextile your partner's Venus? You have an opportunity to become very close with your romantic partner in ways which will change how you approach love and give you an intensity of passion and desire you have never before felt nor imagined. Your relationship and your lover compel your attention. If your romantic partner's Pluto is sextile your Venus, he/she feels incredibly close to you, sexually moved, profoundly attracted, willing to unburden a lifetime worth of secrets in order to stand naked in your gaze, and willing to turn his/her back upon the world if it will win your love and attention."

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BearsArcher
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posted August 05, 2010 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message
Actually, it depends on the aspect. In most cases there is definitely a bond that can't be broken which is felt by both the Venus and Pluto party. However, it is normally Venus that feels the bond or obsession more than the Pluto person and Pluto can often cause stress for the Venus person.

I share this aspect with my husband. His Venus (25 Vir 56') conjuncts my natal Pluto (27 Vir 20') and my Virgo Ascendant (24 Vir 52'). We have other aspects in our chart that solidifies the bond and the attraction / love is reciprocated.

It is definitely a strong aspect but we both have Pluto in the first house, mine conjuncts my ASC and he has natal pluto conjunct venus. Still, there can be the feeling of chasing the other.

The Pluto person HAS to make sure that they set the bounderies and that they NEVER use that attraction / bond as power over the other person. If the balance gets out of whack, then resentment may start to take place.

One article I found states this:

Venus conjunct other person's Pluto
There is a strong pull between these two that can be fascinating, intensely attractive, and yet also disturbing at times. These two share a deep emotional tie. The Pluto person seems to have a window into the Venus person's soul at times, and can use this special connection for better or for worse. As the relationship progresses, the Pluto person may behave in a possessive manner towards the Venus person. This is one indication of a karmic tie. This pairing of planets is one of the stronger indications of intense sexual attraction. This is a passionate connection, but should be managed so that it doesn't turn into a love-hate union. Obsessive behavior is also a possibility. The Pluto person may demand more intimacy than the Venus person is willing or capable of giving. This relationship seems to change and evolve, and can be characterized by many dramas and emotional ups and downs. Times of frustration are followed by enlightenment and release, as the bond these two share is not a light or superficial one whatsoever. http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/venus_pluto_aspects.html

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raspberri
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posted August 05, 2010 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
^ I don't feel that way about the Venus person.

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racole12
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posted August 05, 2010 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
Raspberry- that's the orb of your aspect? If the orb is too wide... the feeling is not going to be as strong...


but with above statement I definitely agree about the strong pull, intense attraction, sexual attraction, deep emotional tie, possessiveness and just the over-all heaviness of the connection...

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raspberri
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posted August 05, 2010 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
The orb is 0; it's exact and it's trining my Sun exact.

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BearsArcher
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posted August 05, 2010 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message
There may be other factors in your chart that play into the attraction or non attraction. Just because you have that aspect, doesn't mean that you are destined to fall in love with the Venus person.

There has to be many other factors that come into play, common likes / dislikes, attraction, personality and a multitude of other internal and external factors.

I have had others that have Venus conjunct my Pluto and one, in particular, I was absolutly repulsed by. He was not my type in any way, shape or form. We also had a TON of negative aspects in synastry.

Free will is huge and maybe the Venus guy you are talking about is in your life for a reason and then you will both move on?

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raspberri
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posted August 05, 2010 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
we aren't together. I just thought it was interesting we have excellent synastry and I don't want to be with him and I can't fall in love with him.

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racole12
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posted August 05, 2010 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
then put up the charts....

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BearsArcher
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posted August 05, 2010 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with racole. I also have to emphasize that just because people have "bad" synastry or "excellent" synastry, it doesn't mean they will get along or are destined never to be together.

Sometimes too many trines makes the relationship feel "too" comfortable or similar to a family type of love instead of a romantic love. People also have insanely wonderful synastry that work together but that doesn't mean it is sexual.

If you want people to point out the aspects, posting your chart would be a good way to get it started. If not, then just go with your gut.

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raspberri
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posted August 05, 2010 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
You guy's are really blowing this outta proportion. I was simply making a point about Pluto synastry since people seem to think it's the best and usually there when people are deeply in love. In my case it's not that way; therfore I don't care about it.

That is all.

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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted August 05, 2010 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message
rasberry - be careful because I had a friend's Venus exactly on my Pluto (I was not in love with him but I did -and still do- appreciate his friendship). At the time, when we were younger he tried to commit suicide. I had a bf, and he thought I was being dismissive towards him. To be honest I was slightly dismissive because up until the suicide attempt it did not HIT me that he liked me that much or that he felt so hurt. I thought it was a passing crush and I didn't make much of it.

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Ami Ann
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posted August 05, 2010 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
So, are you saying ,Dyn-a, to treat Pluto synastry with care cuz it is SUPER powerful?

Ami

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angel100
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posted August 05, 2010 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel100     Edit/Delete Message
Raspberri, I'm so glad you posted this because Im fascinated with venus/pluto synastry. A guy I know very well has his venus EXACTLY conjunct my pluto in scorpio...its exact to the minute and I'm the one obsessed with him...obsession has been going strong for three years now. He has a girlfriend though so he's off limits (for now lol). My juno is also sitting exactly on this conjunction so maybe that accounts for me seeing him as the ideal? I personally think that the orbs have to be kept SUPER tight for pluto/venus synastry.

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raspberri
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posted August 05, 2010 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
^ Now we are getting somewhere. Is your Pluto conjunct any other planets? Is it well aspected? What house is it in and what sign? I'm guessing Scorpio?

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angel100
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posted August 05, 2010 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel100     Edit/Delete Message
As regards the synastry between me and my obsession my pluto is only conjunct his venus? My pluto is widely conjunct my libra sun...pluto is in scorpio in the 3rd house?

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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted August 05, 2010 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message
Ami - Yeah for the person who is NOT in love (if that is the situation) - I think they need to be extra caring, mainly with harsh aspects: conjunction, opposition and square. I tried my best to make him feel good. We saw a psychologist together. This actually helped!

Raspberri - Not sure if you were asking me, but..
"Is your Pluto conjunct any other planets?"

His Mercury is in Scorpio as well but not close by degree. But my Pluto is also square his Moon in Leo.

"Is it well aspected? What house is it in and what sign?"

My Pluto is in the 5th house in Scorpio: opposite Venus/NN and BML, sextile Mars/Neptune/DC, trine AC, trine Jupiter, conjunct SN.

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Ami Ann
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posted August 05, 2010 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for explaining that, Dyn-a.
It makes a lot of sense.
Deep emotions are NOT to be trifled with.

Ami

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