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Glaucus
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posted August 07, 2010 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
There is an asteroid called Cetacea.
2089 Cetacea (1977 VF) is a main-belt asteroid discovered on November 9, 1977 by Thomas, N. G. at Flagstaff (AM).
It has an orbital period of around 4 years.

Cetacea is the order that whales, dolphins, and porpoises belong too. Cetus is Latin and is used in biological names to mean "whale"; its original meaning, "large sea animal", was more general. It comes from Ancient Greek κῆτος (kētos), meaning "whale" or "any huge fish or sea monster". In Greek mythology the monster Perseus defeated was called Ceto, which is depicted by the constellation of Cetus. Cetology is the branch of marine science associated with the study of cetaceans.


There is a transneptunian called Ceto.
65489 Ceto is a binary trans-Neptunian object (TNO) discovered on March 22, 2003 by C. A. Trujillo and M. Brown at Palomar. It is named after the sea goddess Ceto from Greek mythology. The object was identified as a binary on April 11, 2006 by K. Noll, H. Levison, W. Grundy and D. Stephens using the Hubble Space Telescope; the companion object is named Phorcys after the Greek sea god. The Ceto system is considered the second known binary Centaur,using an extended definition of a Centaur as an object on an non-resonant (unstable) orbit with the perihelion inside the orbit of Neptune.
It has an orbital period of 998 years.

Ceto is a relatively small transneptunian object,and so it doesn't meet dwarf plane criteria.
I only use 1 degree orb except for an aspect pattern. 30 minutes extra for an aspect pattern.

In Greek mythology, Ceto was a primordial deity, a hideous female sea monster, daughter of Gaia and Pontus. She was the personification of the dangers of the sea, unknown terrors and bizarre marine creatures. Her name came from the neuter noun kētos, "sea monster", which gives us the term cetacean today. Her husband was Phorcys and they had many children, collectively known as the Phorcydes or Phorcydides.

Iqjhunk said that Autistic Kids existed in Dolphin or Whale lifeforms here or on other planets.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/004075.html

I don't agree with the stuff that he said about autism, but I am open to the ideas.

I also wonder if what he said pertains to other neurodivergents. Not all autistics are like,and that's the first myth of autism that's addressed. Like Temple Grandin said at a presention, Autism is a continuum of traits (from completely nonverbal to brilliant scientists). Temple Grandin is an autistic that fits the latter. Neurodivergence is just continuum of traits too. Most neurodivergents have more than one neurodivergent condition like I have Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD. Founder of Developmental Neuro-Diversity Association (DANDA) Mary Colley also has Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD. DANDA was the result of her realizing that these neurodivergent conditions often co-exist with each other in the same person. It's just a spectrum of traits in connection that diverge from the neurotypical (the normal neurological processing people). It could be people who just are too rightbrained for the leftbrained world.

Acquired autism can be very different from a genetic autism too. I believe that autism can caused by vaccines,heavy metal poisoning,toxins. This wouldn't cause the type of autism that Temple Grandin has.


In my own chart:
Cetacea in 4'19 Scorpio in 2nd (3rd in whole sign)
conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd (3rd in whole sign)
conjunct transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio in 2nd (3rd in whole sign)
trine Moon in 3'11 Pisces in 6th (7th in whole sign)
quincunx Saturn in 5'08 Gemini in 9th (10th in whole sign)
biquintile Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini

My Moon in the sign of the fishes already has aspects to mythological character connected to the seas,oceans
square Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius in 3rd (4th in whole sign) - Neptune, Roman God of the Seas,Oceans
square transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Varuna in 3'01 Gemini R in 9th (10th in whole sign) - Varuna, Indian God of the Seas,Oceans
sextile transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Sedna in 2'06 Taurus R in 8th (9th in whole sign) - Sedna, Inuit Goddess of the Seas, Oceans (39 minutes of arc in Right Ascension)


My Moon is involved involved in a very strong sea,ocean theme
This is what probably factored into my joining/serving in the US Navy,my childhood fascination with merfolk, and my natural ability as swimmer (I learned to swim when I was 3 and it took me only a week. I was an excellent since that time).


Ceto in 18'57 Taurus R in 9th
oppose chart ruler Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio in 3rd
square transneptunian/plutino Rhadamanthus in 17'33 Leo in 12th
(T-Square)
Rhadamanthus is named after one of the 3 judges in the Underworld in Greek Mythology. As a plutino, it has 2:3 orbital resonance just like Pluto does. As a rule, plutinos are named after Underworld characters in mythology. It's a relatively small transneptunian,and so it doesn't meet dwarf planet criteria. I only use a 1 degree orb except for an aspect pattern. 30 minutes extra for an aspect pattern.


Do any of you that identify with neurodivergence (Autistic Spectrum including Aspergers Syndrome, Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia, AD(H)D, Tourette Syndrome) and/or Indigo,Crystal,Starseed have a strong Cetacea and/or Ceto influence influence?

Cetacea and Ceto in connection to the following can be valid too:
Declinations
Right Ascension
The Geocentric Nodes
The Heliocentric Nodes
The Heliocentric Chart
The Draconic Zodiac-Tropical Zodiac

You can use the following page http://www.true-node.com/eph1/


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Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts

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amowls*
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posted August 07, 2010 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
He made himself clear down thread about children with Down Syndrome, that's what he really meant.

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Glaucus
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posted August 07, 2010 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
He didn't come close to saying that the first time

he said the following:

"Autistic Kids are starting out the human experience. They existed in Dolphin or Whale lifeforms here or on other planets. This lifeline is an experiment for them. Their minds are Autistic to us Neurotypical people but in their heads they need to be able to connect to both their previous existences and to learn the basics of human functionality"


He referred to Autistics having a pastlife dolphin/whale background.
He wasn't referring to Down Syndrome which is not even close to being related to autism. Down Syndrome is not a form of autism. They are completely separate conditions.


I also made a point that not all autistics are alike because the autistic spectrum varies in not only functioning and intelligence, but also its causes.


I also raised the point that many autistics benefit from early intervention therapies.

I also pointed out the severity of my Dyslexia and Dyspraxia mimicked low functioning autism, and it got me misplaced with intellectually handicapped children in 1st grade. I explained that it was early intervention therapies that made me high functioning. Without them, I wouldn't be very different from low functioning autism.


Early intervention is very important to help people with autism and other neurodivergent conditions to live similar to neurotypicals.


any ways

I just want people to discuss their Cetacea and Ceto aspects and what they think of them.

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Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts

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popcorn
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posted August 08, 2010 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
I've not an diagnos like that but its interesting to see I have it so strong in my chart.

I've cetacea in my Star of David spectrum

Hatsepeut 10 in SAG
Alma 11 in SAG
Medea 12 in SAG
CETACEA 13 in SAG

DC 10 in aqua
Angel 11 in aqua
asteroid lilith 12

MC 12 in aries
eris 10 in aries

baccus 12 in gemin

AC 10 leo
Sun 10 leo

IC 12 libra
P fortuna 14 libra

CETO

CETO 5,08 in taurus in aspect to
osiris 6,59 in taurus
DNA 9,23 in taurus

trine to

persepone 6 virgo
merk 7 virgo
uranus 8 virgo
kaali 9 virgo
pluto 12 virgo

square to
destinn 6 aqua
psyche 8 aqua
DC 10 aqua
angel 10 aqua
AC 10 leo
sun 10 leo
makemake 7 leo
fortuna 7 leo

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