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FrozenQueen
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posted August 07, 2010 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message
EVIL = LIVE

I don't know what caused this but I was wondering if some people really are evil. Are there any indicative in the natal that describe it?

And if this is true, then are they doomed to be hated and reviled? And left behind to rot?

And can there be 100% Good in this world or will it be like Yin-Yang: always one would contain the seeds of another.

And does God discriminate among us based on how good or bad we are? And if He does then how can His Love be unconditional?

And if He doesn't, then who are we to judge?


If you feel that I'm talking nonsense, it's ok. I just am so sad and am crying for the past half an hour and this stuff is buzzing inside my head.

Maybe, I'm simply under the blues...or its the Moon again.

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maira
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posted August 07, 2010 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Frozen, lots of hugs!!

If "evil" is shown in the natal, I think it would have something to do with Pluto, Scorpio, at least in my experience.

But you asked more than astrology, so I'll share my two cents (it's what I've read and I'm still trying to integrate it, as I believe it to be the truth).

There is no good or evil per se. They are just two facets of the same coin (you mentioned Yin and Yang). Maybe evil is just an absence of good, just as dark is an absence of light. Extrapolating, maybe evil is an absence of God.

I see God as "all there is". And no, "he" doesn't discriminate. We do. We volunteered for this experience, this "ride", and we judge, and we're evil, envious and feel fear and hatred. Most of all, we judge ourselves, and when we judge another, it is ourselves who we judge. We chose to feel the experience of "separateness", just for the fun of it. And one day, we'll choose to experience "Oneness". Until then, we suffer.

And I'm sorry you do!!! My heart goes out to you! Just know that - astrologically and non-astrologically, this too shall pass.

(In my country we have a saying, "do as the preacher preaches, not as the preacher does", I'm a the lowest point in my life ever, and I do not care that it's just a ride. But in theory, it sounds good...)

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posted August 07, 2010 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
*hugs*... I have been crying all day too (and yesterday) and this is not normal for me!

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Ami Ann
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posted August 07, 2010 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Sweet Friend, Frozen Queen
I don't think God made anyone to be a throw away person--ever,ever.
People can get so abused that they harden themselves until they can do and say horrible things to other people i.e. evil.
It is an aberration of human nature.
I don't think those people are too far gone to get back to a place among men.
There are examples of people coming back from horrible, inhuman places to "normality" like Son of Sam.
Did my mother's thread upset you?
If you ever want to talk you can e mail me, go on msn or call--K?

Ami

PS I will tell you ,later ,on a thread about my convo with my mother today.
I TOLD her about IQ's reading lol


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Diana
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posted August 07, 2010 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Evil definitely exists. Just like good exists, so does evil. It has always been and will always be. There is no way to change it. It's human nature for some. Don't cry over it, because it's completely futile.

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FrozenQueen
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posted August 08, 2010 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message
Maira:

Thanks for responding and understanding. I'm just confused by this...all of this...

We choose to experience separation in order to Evolve (LOVE).

SEPARATION = PART EON

So, every soul has made a contract to learn some lessons in their lifetime.

LIFETIME = MEET TIME
A soul is time-less. It MEETS TIME or embraces mortality in the flesh form to learn.
LEARN = EARN NEAR
Through this, the soul EARNS to become NEAR to God.

And lessons...we learn lessons from our past, from history.

LESSONS = EONS LESS, SONS LOSS
We have wasted a lot of time(eons loss) in fighting amongst ourselves(sons less). So the major lesson we need to learn is of peace.

HISTORY is HIS STORY as generations of humans have SORT-ed out the role of women and they have gone from being revered as goddesses to being the reason of humanity's fall. As Linda showed, to EVOLVE means to LOVE EVE.

SEPARATION means NOT A PART but it could also be interpreted as NOT APART. So it all depends on one's view or perspective.

PERSPECTIVE contains RESPECT and also the Lexigram code EVICT SPITE.

And how does the discussion on the nature of evil fit in this....

I'm thinking


P.s. Diana, I UNDERSTAND or in Lexigram, READ UR STAND.
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Mblake81
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posted August 08, 2010 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYCjMrs61eQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qmglGWMsdk

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FrozenQueen
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posted August 08, 2010 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message
*hugs* to you too racole and Love to Ami.

Please keep posting people, I'm trying to make sense(SEE) of this.

And I mean it when I say Please... It is a PLEA for a LEASE.

Do respond with your own views...
For to RESPOND is to DON your thinking cap and PONDER upon my words/madness (it's the same) and SPEND time to answer.


If anybody feels I'm trying to mess with your minds, then please don't mind me but this stuff is better out of my head where it only ends up with me getting my God-forsaken neurons in a twist.

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posted August 08, 2010 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the links, MBlake...I'll watch them later.
I'm using my cell(no Flash support). Would you just tell me the gist of the videos...I'll definitely watch them.

Till then I'm going to keep getting my neurons into a twist

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FrozenQueen
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posted August 08, 2010 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the links, MBlake...I'll watch them later.
I'm using my cell(no Flash support). Would you just tell me the gist of the videos...I'll definitely watch them.

Till then I'm going to keep getting my neurons into a twist

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Mblake81
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posted August 08, 2010 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
George Carlin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw

George is a taurus, a self-admited left brain predominate. Physical world, one half of a greater whole.

doug stanhope, aries

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS5DaTIF1a0

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FrozenQueen
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posted August 08, 2010 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message
Wait,
in all this CONFUSION there is NO FUSION
and all my thoughts are in separation
or...
are they ON FUSION
trying to fuse in one as they are NOT APART
and all my confusion is just a CON and the druids are winking
that CONFUSION is a CON resulting from NO FUSION
and I'm the SCION of this verbal madness
and the Lexigram is sinking
in.

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Ami Ann
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posted August 08, 2010 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I love you, Frozen Queen.
I hurt that you would think I, or anyone would think you are messing with them.
That was a aberrant moment with Mblake but HE is such an awesome thinker and person.
I thank God for him cuz I am really changing.
KEEP reaching out, ok?
I reached and reached out and I am doing better.
It hurts badly to heal i.e. face ourselves.
The pain is phenomenal but you unearth the real person and the reward is so much more than the pain of the process.
I am here--in any way--as I said ok?
I have free cell so I can even call you and I will whenever you need it.
If you are going through a bad time or just want to talk, I am here.


Ami

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FrozenQueen
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posted August 08, 2010 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message
Ami, the truth is that I myself am not sure what I'm talking about.
And I'm pretty convinced that if I'm confusing someone it Damn sure is me
Still, it always helps to have a disclaimer in place

Keep healing, Ami.

P.s. Anyone got any insights on the original topic...whatever THAT means.

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