posted August 07, 2010 05:53 PM         

thanks for looking/helping if you can

We have been friends for 12 yrs, extremely close in college- we were protective and loyal, but not romantic. He went into the military after college and was stationed in Europe up until 2010- now in the US. We kept in communication while he was over there and in April 2009 we started planning/getting excited about him coming home so we could spend time together. We were actually talking about living together.

The first week he came home everything turned romantic (which we both secretly wanted it to happen), we were both highly excited about the romantic chemistry since we were already compatible as friends. He started making jokes about us getting married for a couple months. Then he was shipped to his station (which was only 4 hrs away). March 14th we made plans for him to come visit me that upcoming weekend but he never showed up. He didn't contact me until May 11th- which he completely blew off everything that happened and all the plans we made and told me he was in a new relationship and he was sorry, but still wanted us to stay in communication with me. So, of course I was completely triggered and went off on him- saying, how can I stay friends with you when you have no integrity in your word, withhold communication and blah blah blah... so, it's almost 3 months later I haven't heard a word from him BUT he has been traveling all over Colorado (which that's where I use to live) going to all the place I told him I would take him once he came home from Europe. My heart sunk after I heard he was doing all that. I just don't understand how he can throw away a 12 yr friendship and I thought we would work through this. I'm heart broken in a way I haven't felt before... I feel like I lost my best friend.

I haven't directly asked what is going on, like starting a new thread to seek help, but I have asked through another thread and people directly jump to the sun signs... which, I'm sorry, there is more to astrology than sun signs and yes, I'm a Sag and he's a Pisces... but my Sun conj Neptune, MC and Sun/Moon midpoint in Pisces is plenty enough Pisces to balance this out or we wouldn't of had a 12 yr friendship...

I'm tired of going around in circles in my head about this and I don't know what to do to get things back on track or I should just leave things be.

So here is are charts...
He also have his Amor/Jupiter conj to my Destinn if that matters (I couldn't get anymore asteroids on it.

And another thing I thought was different is that both of our Unions are opposite each other's 7th house ruler.

And I have noticed I have a pattern with my close friends/romantic partners having their Velentine conj my 11th house cusp (maybe it's b/c it's opposite my 5th house?)

I would greatly appreciate any advice... I'm ready for my head and my heart to have a break from this

posted August 07, 2010 06:21 PM         

x o x Ami

posted August 07, 2010 06:35 PM         

x o Ami

posted August 07, 2010 06:47 PM         

You have Taurus moons conjunct. This should be a warm sense of understanding and knowing of each other.
He has moon conjunct Jupiter.This makes him warm hearted, generous, forgiving of others, big hearted , ethical and with a good sense of humor.
He is the one to help when someone needs it.
His emotional nature(moon) works hand in hand with his higher mind/ethics (Jupiter).
It seems like he is a decent, trustworthy person.

His Uranus is on your Venus. This is attraction, Girlfriend lol.
It is filled with excitement.
This aspect shows attraction not staying power so to speak

His Saturn conjunct your Jupiter shows that you can have a working partnership.
Jupiter is the idea person, the bigger picture. Saturn can bring it in to reality.

This looks like it would bring stability to the Uranus/Venus excitement aspect.

Pluto in your 5th may make love have unheavels. You may have a hard time balancing the various parts of "love" such as sexuality/intimacy etc.
You may feel roller coaster--like in your relationships. Am I right?

His Pluto is in your 5th. Perhaps, it got really, really powerful as you said and he fled.
His Jupiter is on your Descendent.
Jupiter may want to take the relationship from intimacy to marriage cuz it is the planet of contacts and legal matters.

When you give the degrees, I can look at other aspects such as trines and oppositions.

Ami

PS I don't know much about asteroids but I think it is Juno which has strong aspects.
Your Juno (the wife ) is on his Eros(erotic love)
His Mars in on your Juno.

That seems like it would be a DW in the sense of what it means i.e. stable energy(the wife) coming together with erotic /drive energy.
I hope I have Juno right

posted August 07, 2010 07:09 PM         

Ok, here is the other aspect that Mr. Birkbeck seems to feel that is a very important in Synastry:

Venus Conjunct (uniting with) Uranus
Love Brings Change

posted August 07, 2010 07:22 PM         

Everybody brings up the Uranus conj Venus and say it's not meant to last... and then I say well we have been friends for 12 yrs so there is something stable in our chart to keep us together but I'm extremely worried we won't get over this

It was extremely intense and passionate... if it was someone else other than him I would of ran away...

The double Juno aspects and the Psyche conj Eros has me concerned too along with the Saturn square Venus- but there has to be something positive about those as well.

posted August 07, 2010 07:24 PM         

Yes, I really think it's that simple.

Of course, NOT ALL PISCES MEN ARE THIS WAY, but a lot are, way too many to ignore. I read this same story about pisces all the time. I lived this story, which is how I found out they do this -- I found out after it happened. There were literally hundreds of the same story, they all were the same exact story, the same script.

Sun signs are very accurate. I went away from them for awhile, but the more I learned, the more it kept coming back to sun sign. Each sun sign has a shadow to it. Not everyone will express that shadow because some people are more evolved and mature than that. Some people express the higher octave of the sign, in pisces case it would be fidelity and a reluctance to hurt anyone, because it would hurt them more. In this case, he is doing the lower octave of pisces, which is to elude and run away from anything real, to avoid responsibility in telling you it was over.

The sun is the driving force of the personality. All the other planets will color it, like spices added to a recipe, but the core remains the sun.

posted August 07, 2010 07:42 PM         

Ami
PS It is so wonderful that you are back, Diana.
I eat up your posts

PPS I guess Diana gave the answer you did not want to hear, Racole.
We have ALL been there, Friend.
There are things we want that the Universe/God won't let us have. I am so sorry about this relationship.

I never completely lose hope , though, cuz God can do miracles IMO.
If I were you, I would give him up to God, go on and know that there is always the possibility he could come back but God would have to bring him and it is out of your hands.

That is just how *I* would view it. Others may see it differently.

posted August 07, 2010 09:54 PM         

I place a big emphasis on the sun, but a lot of people don't. Yes, for all signs there is a lower and a higher expression of it. I find when someone is under some sort of duress that their shadow description of their sun manifests. Like when an aqua sun is under stress they will go up into their head, maybe detach, become erratic, contrary...etc. A scorpio under stress will react according to their sun's shadow in some way -- maybe becoming obsessed, wanting revenge, crying, manipulating.

If either of these signs I used as an example are more mature, these shadow sign behaviors will be muted or even absent, because they deal with things according to the lighter expression of their signs, so the scorpio may rise above it and transform themselves from the situation. The aqua will be able to make sense of their feelings and adopt a live and let live attitude and maybe parlay it into group efforts.

posted August 07, 2010 10:06 PM         

x o Ami

posted August 08, 2010 11:43 AM         

All my long term relationships have been Pisces... but they have all acted negative but in a different way. This has been the first time I have really taken a stand for myself and letting him be aware of how he impacted me and how he's been acting. I just thought Mr. Pisces (the above one) would react differently (since in the past he was all about being aware and acting with integrity) Anyway, in the past, with all the other Pisces, I was the one that reached out first, even though they were the ones that acted ****** . I told myself I wasn't going to give in and continue to take my stand for myself... I just been having a weak moment, plus I do miss him. We always worked through our issues before (I guess the DW Venus to Sun Trine and the Moon/Moon conj really helped with that) but sometimes I guess it's just not enough...

Anyway, with him traveling and seeing everything I was suppose to show him... it seems he likes being in emotional pain (I don't know if that's the right way of saying it)... acting all brooding and analyzing things or maybe it's just him punishing himself. Grrr.

Thank you for helping me get thru this week moment... he needs to come to me if we even have a chance of working thru this and saving our friendship (but I'm honestly thinking it's dead- especially the longer he waits...)

I guess I don't know Pisces men like I thought. LOL

I'm just seriously ****** at him b/c I know how he is with relationships (it can't stand to be out of one...) and I thought with our situation (with me living 4 hrs away) would be great for him to still be in a relationship but have the time to learn who he is outside of one. (he always complained he only knows himself in a relationship) The girl he is dating now it's completely out of convenience (b/c she is right there, and working in the same dept as him)...