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FrozenQueen
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posted August 14, 2010 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron is the maverick, wounded healer and represents the wound that will never heal unless we 'die' to it first.

With Cancer. the wound is in the home...early troubles with parents, child abuse etc.

I wonder what a 12th house wound is like?

Maybe, a hidden wound or a wound that belongs to all of humanity.

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posted August 15, 2010 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have chiron in 12th house but in aries. Self worth afflicted by wounds but something that no one would ever know because I keep it so well hidden?
I can see the 12th house hiding these wounds. Something we all suffer in silence with.

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posted August 15, 2010 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12th house Pisces. Not sure what to say really!

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posted August 15, 2010 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

This is from Solar Fire

Chiron in 12th
You suffer from deeply-buried wounds and moments of overwhelming pain. In exploring the depths of this pain you may later become a catalyst for healing others - a spiritual healer.

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posted August 15, 2010 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

self worth sign is Taurus


This is from Solar Fire

Chiron in Taurus
You will experience a crisis of values. You may experience a lack of self-worth and over-compensate by accruing money and possessions. You may also distrust your body, or feel that your body is not beautiful. You will learn to rely on your own and your body's experiences, and could become a healer.


Chiron in Aries
Your sense of being has been violated in some way and you may fear asserting yourself. You may also over-compensate by attempting to be the first at everything. Physically you may suffer head wounds. You may become a pioneer in a way which will be of service to humanity.


Chiron in Pisces
You will have difficulty gaining your own sense of individuality. You have an ability to feel others' pain and may need to detach and meditate. You may also suffer from your own deep and personal grief. You may work for or serve within a healing institution.

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posted August 16, 2010 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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...but something that no one would ever know because I keep it so well hidden?

I think that description fits, leastways to me, CAPPY.

My Cancerian Chiron meant that I didn't really have a "happy" childhood but if you met, you'd guess but you'd never know, unless I told you first.

That could be it...

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Chiron in 12th
You suffer from deeply-buried wounds and moments of overwhelming pain. In exploring the depths of this pain you may later become a catalyst for healing others - a spiritual healer.

How does one explore the "depths" of one's pain?

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posted August 16, 2010 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

probably through psychoanalysis,hypnosis,and pastlife regression

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posted August 16, 2010 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron in Taurus.

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posted August 16, 2010 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer can be the proverbial "doctor who is the worst patient" in that one often doesn't heed his or her own advice to others. I believe committed and disciplined self-care is imperative. Cancer contains the words: can care (re)again

I like this: http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Chiron

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posted August 17, 2010 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Cancer can be the proverbial "doctor who is the worst patient" in that one often doesn't heed his or her own advice to others.

OOPS!!!

Mermaid, you got me there.

I'm sort of a universal counsellor and a lot of people come to me for advice regarding their life or simply to share their thoughts with me and that includes friends, parents, relatives, teachers and believe it or not, call-centre workers whom I call up to enquire about something. Maybe, it's cause I talk softly and am somewhat polite.

But...even though I do try to be objective towards me, I still have a long way to go.

P.s. The 12th house means no one ever figures out this shade of me.

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posted August 17, 2010 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have wanted to and enjoyed 'counselling' others. some people find i really am able to help..

my Chiron is in Cancer in the 12th house..

childhood troubles.. well, iv had no abuse, iv just had an unstable raising perhaps.

my mother relapsed and suffered with bipolar over and over, she didn't associate with the best of people..

it meant i had to live with my Granma everytime, the first times was the hardest as i was toddler and didn't understand why my mum wasn't there.

my Uncle, my Granmas youngest son, was like an older brother figure.

in hindsight, im very happy i livedwith them everytime, it changed me for the better i feel, and i was exposed to more positive people and my Granma to be honest, could 'raise' me better than my mum could in terms of responsibility.

my mum cared and showed me love the most that cant be disputed fortunately.

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posted August 17, 2010 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
<< Cancer can be the proverbial "doctor who is the worst patient" in that one often doesn't heed his or her own advice to others. >>
Very true....

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posted January 24, 2012 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marina123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I like this: http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Chiron[/quote]

Thank you for sharing this, that was really helpful to me.

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Chironrising
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posted January 24, 2012 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chironrising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have chiron in the 12th side 9 degrees away from teh ascendant in gemini and 9 degrees away from my nn in taurus in the 12th...

any clues my friends>?

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posted January 24, 2012 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
<< Cancer can be the proverbial "doctor who is the worst patient" in that one often doesn't heed his or her own advice to others. >>
Very true....

nice one
http://www.moonsweb.com/ast/chiron.shtml http://www.aquarianage.org/west/planets/ch-nat01.html http://www.astrotherapy.eu/Chiron.htm http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/chiron21.5.html http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/chiron.html http://www.martinlass.com/chiron.htm http://www.zanestein.com/chiron_a.htm http://www.pathwaytoascension.com/astrology/lesson6.html
http://books.google.com/books?id=4rnvfxrc4LwC&pg=PT1&dq=astrology+chiron&lr=lang_en&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_brr=0&ei=wMfUSoj-HI6MNdHKzYcO# v=onepage&q=astrology%20chiron&f=false

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posted January 24, 2012 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I think your wound is hidden from you.

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posted January 24, 2012 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
<< Cancer can be the proverbial "doctor who is the worst patient" in that one often doesn't heed his or her own advice to others. >>
Very true....

nice one
http://www.moonsweb.com/ast/chiron.shtml http://www.aquarianage.org/west/planets/ch-nat01.html http://www.astrotherapy.eu/Chiron.htm http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/chiron21.5.html http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/chiron.html http://www.martinlass.com/chiron.htm http://www.zanestein.com/chiron_a.htm http://www.pathwaytoascension.com/astrology/lesson6.html
http://books.google.com/books?id=4rnvfxrc4LwC&pg=PT1&dq=astrology+chiron&lr=lang_en&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_brr=0&ei=wMfUSoj-HI6MNdHKzYcO# v=onepage&q=astrology%20chiron&f=false

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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

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posted January 24, 2012 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chironrising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, I think your wound is hidden from you.



Like having a lisp and not knowing? Or htalking like stalone?

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posted January 25, 2012 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Simply saying the 12th denotes anything that is "hidden" is over simplification and therefore as a consequence, incorrect.

Having understood the 12th better since posting this topic, I realise that the 12H Chiron is not merely a hidden wound. In my case, with it being in Cancer, it is a desire, a yearning, a soul-deep craving for a "home", for a sense of belonging, knowing deeply my own origin. Who am I? Why am I here? But since the 12th is also the house of the collective, it transcends from a simple personal question regarding my own origins to encompass that of the origins of humanity, of the souls and ultimately of the Universe itself.

Why are we here and for what reason?

What is a soul's purpose? Where is its home?

Unlike the popular belief about the 12th, I consider it a very spiritual, very sublime house and planets placed here can enlighten one to the inner mechanics of the Universe. Sublimation is not as easy as it sounds. As sublime as our souls are, we are more used to our physical body, to this 3D world our bodies inhabit. A 12H Venus for example is capable of understanding the mystery of Love as the basis of all dimensions 5 and upwards and make one capable of manifesting their Twin or it can confuse the lesson and continue to be trapped in situations where Love seems out of reach, unattainable, manifesting as the continuous cycle of falling for "unavailable" people.

Similarly, a 12H Chiron can also open one to wounds of the collective. We humans are lost and it is true. How many of us dare to look beyond our 3D bodies to the souls that inhabit these vessels? That is also the realm of Chiron

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posted January 25, 2012 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chironrising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Frozen Queen:
Simply saying the 12th denotes anything that is "hidden" is over simplification and therefore as a consequence, incorrect.

Having understood the 12th better since posting this topic, I realise that the 12H Chiron is not merely a hidden wound. In my case, with it being in Cancer, it is a desire, a yearning, a soul-deep craving for a "home", for a sense of belonging, knowing deeply my own origin. Who am I? Why am I here? But since the 12th is also the house of the collective, it transcends from a simple personal question regarding my own origins to encompass that of the origins of humanity, of the souls and ultimately of the Universe itself.

Why are we here and for what reason?

What is a soul's purpose? Where is its home?

Unlike the popular belief about the 12th, I consider it a very spiritual, very sublime house and planets placed here can enlighten one to the inner mechanics of the Universe. Sublimation is not as easy as it sounds. As sublime as our souls are, we are more used to our physical body, to this 3D world our bodies inhabit. A 12H Venus for example is capable of understanding the mystery of Love as the basis of all dimensions 5 and upwards and make one capable of manifesting their Twin or it can confuse the lesson and continue to be trapped in situations where Love seems out of reach, unattainable, manifesting as the continuous cycle of falling for "unavailable" people.

Similarly, a 12H Chiron can also open one to wounds of the collective. We humans are lost and it is true. How many of us dare to look beyond our 3D bodies to the souls that inhabit these vessels? That is also the realm of Chiron


how do you go about lookin beyond? With chiron in gemini? what would it be?

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