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Peri
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posted August 16, 2010 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This seems to be an interesting interpretation of the quincunx aspect, what do you guys think?

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...The quincunx aspect:

The quincunx aspect is a little like a bridge between signs that are different by element and modality. Therefore they allow the person to have a rather quirky, flexible approach to situations that may cause puzzles or problems to those who don’t have planets in these signs. For this reason it often appears in the charts of those who are skilled at problem solving.

Quincunxes often describe a sense of humour – the ability to see the funny side of life in almost all circumstances – so they regularly appear in the charts of comedians. This is particularly emphasised if the quincunx is involved in a Pythagorean triangle (three or more planets in a square, quincunx and trine interlocking aspect) the type of humour is shown by the planets involved in the configuration...
The quincunx aspect by itself will always show when there are changes in the life. The signs and houses involved describe the area of change. As the unexpected is a keynote of the quincunx, these changes require you to be both flexible in approach and ‘on your toes’ when they are activated.

The potential for Long distance travel is almost always shown in the chart by a quincunx, either through transits, progressions or directions involving a planet in the 9th house or the ruler of the 9th house. It shows so frequently at times of travel because travel itself requires you to be flexible and open to changes

The quincunx aspect is almost always present when there is death as death also describes a period of considerable change both for the person who dies and their family and friends. The quincunx will involve the eighth house or the ruler of the eighth and the house that describes the person who dies. E.g. if there is a transit of Jupiter in the 4th house making a quincunx to Venus in the 8th house, which in turn rules the sign on the cusp of the 4th house, then a parent is likely to be the person who dies.

Home moves also almost always have a quincunx transit, progression or direction as does conception and childbirth.

It can even show up when you meet the love of your life as this is likely to completely change your life.



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Geocosmic* Valentine
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posted August 16, 2010 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like it. But I haven't researched it. I like it because it doesn't seem like the other explainations of Quincunx's. The old "adjustment" excuse. I'm gonna enjoy researching this, especially with comedians. The thing is, they are involved in so many charts, how can someone just pinpoint comedians? Either way, I like it just because it's new. Thanks for posting it.

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posted August 16, 2010 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I must politely disagree with the humorous side of the quincunx. I have never seen that.
The life changing part, well that could be possible.

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Peri
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posted August 16, 2010 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
haha you may be right, IQ. Quincunx is too difficult to handle to be humorous about it but at the same time I see the author's point: humour / wit "is the quick apprehension and ingenuous and apt expression of the connections or analagous properties between things seemingly unlike." Or as Mark Twain said: "Wit is the sudden marriage of ideas which before their union were not perceived to have any relation." ~ this sounds very quincunx to me.

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posted August 16, 2010 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I don't agree either

I have some quincunxes in my chart

retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th
quincunx Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
quincunx Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio


I have a Pythagorean Triangle
Sun in 5'20 Scorpio,Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio in 2nd trine Moon in 3'11 Pisces in 6th,and Saturn quincunxes Sun and squares Moon.


In Right Ascension:
I have Sun quincunx Varuna
it's also part of a Pythagorean Triangle
Sun trine Moon, and Varuna quincunx Sun-Ixion and square Moon


In Right Ascension,
I have a yod of Eris quincunx Venus-Haumea sextile


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posted August 16, 2010 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You don't agree with what? or you just don't agree in general?

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posted August 16, 2010 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I don't agree with the humourous side of the quincunx

I am not sure about the travel stuff either

I have Saturn in 9th that quincunx the Sun-Ixion

I did travel when I was in the US Navy


of course, I have a strong Jupiter influence with Jupiter in Sagittarius conjunct/oppose the Midheaven/Imum Coeli
I have Moon square Jupiter (it's closer in Right Ascension). I have Jupiter on the Moon/Ascendant midpoint and Venus on the Sun/Jupiter midpoint. I even have Venus trine Geocentric North Jupiter Node too.

All those things could factor into travel and humor.

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posted August 16, 2010 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


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posted August 16, 2010 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is very interesting Peri and I'm glad you posted it.

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The potential for Long distance travel is almost always shown in the chart by a quincunx, either through transits, progressions or directions involving a planet in the 9th house or the ruler of the 9th house. It shows so frequently at times of travel because travel itself requires you to be flexible and open to changes

The quincunx aspect is almost always present when there is death as death also describes a period of considerable change both for the person who dies and their family and friends.


I will check this with travel, moving and death dates - and get back.
I've moved 15 or 16 times in my life.. and I've traveled long distance also. So I have plenty of data to assess this lol

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posted August 16, 2010 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peri, your take is inspiring. Let me reword it as:
Apply witty humour to adjust better to the innately gloomy Quincunx

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posted August 16, 2010 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've moved around quite a bit, both shorter distances and overseas... I know that I have my Moon, Venus and South Node quincunx my Uranus/ascendant, and Jupiter is also quincunx my ascendant from the other side (in Aries) but it's wide so it might not count.

Saturn quincunx Neptune is the only other one that I can remember.

I'm not that funny, usually, but my Dad did talk about my being a favourite with people, when I was younger, adding, "You were a little sh*t." In a good way.

I'd like to see Jim Carrey's chart, amongst others, just because he seems so silly and lighthearted, but he isn't in reality (at least from what I read, a long time ago). Owen Wilson was another - lighthearted to a point, finding humour in things that aren't so funny. (That just came to mind, with Geocosmic's mentioning the usual 'adjustment' thing with the Quincunx.)

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posted August 16, 2010 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus was conjunct my 3rd house cusp, when we moved back to the States, when I was fifteen. I think that makes it quincunx my Moon, Venus and Node from the other side (Capricorn).

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posted August 16, 2010 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

maybe quincunxes involving Saturn are exceptions

Transiting Saturn is quincunxing my Moon-Sedna sextile for a yod, and I certainly don't feel like being a comedian. It's pretty much the opposite.

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posted August 16, 2010 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't want to derail thread, but I wanted to say a warm Hello to Ms Peri.

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Peri
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posted August 16, 2010 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey sweetie, I've been missing you and wondering how you are, hope all is well

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posted August 17, 2010 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so now I think having a natal quincunx between Mercury and an outer planet (in its best manifestation of course) may signify a profound and highly original thinker?

e.g. Merc Q Pluto > a brillaint detective
Merc Q Chiron > an intuitive therapist
Merc Q Neptune > a creative composer/poet/artist
Merc Q Uranus > a scientist, ahead of his time
Merc Q Jupiter > a philosopher, profound in ethics/metaphysics etc
Merc Q Saturn > a talented architect or sculptor maybe?

What do you think IQ (and others)?

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posted August 17, 2010 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
shrugs

that could just be from the the 2 planets in aspect to each other and not the angular relationship between the 2 planets.

Mercury in aspect to objects beyond Saturn (outerplanets,some centaurs,Neptune trojans, transneptunians) would seem to indicate outside the box thinkers.


my best friend is a shaman,healer,psychic and a neurodivergent, and he has Mercury quincunx Neptune.

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posted August 17, 2010 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent keywords, Peri.
I would add Innovative Spiritualist to Mercury quincunx Neptune. Mercury quincunx Neptune is mathematically the best Neurodivergence Indicator aspect using planets alone.

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posted August 17, 2010 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well.....it says that Dyslexia (a type of neurodivergence)involves thinking mainly in pictures,being highly imaginative and strong 3D visualization abilities, and that does fit with Mercury-Neptune aspects
it's mainly the right hemisphere doing what the left hemisphere should be doing when it comes language processing.

My shaman,healer friend is Dyslexic, and he has Mercury quincunx Neptune, His Mercury quincunx Neptune-Midheaven sextile, and so his Mercury oppose Neptune/Midheaven midpoint.
Yes..he can relate to thinking mainly in pictures,highly imaginative,and strong visualization abilities.
He also has Sun-Mercury-Eris conjunction which I believe plays a big part in his neurodivergent.

I am Dyslexic ,and I can relate strongly to thinking mainly in pictures,highly imaginative, and strong visualization abilities

I have Mercury parallel Neptune,Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint

I also think that my Mercury square Makemake and Mercury biquintile Eris also factor as well as Mercury,Saturn,Uranus,Sedna 11th harmonic isoceles trapezoid that has corresponding midpoint pictures: Mercury oppose Saturn/Sedna and Sedna oppose Mercury/Uranus.

any ways...Mercury-Neptune aspect could indicate a highly imaginative,visual,picture thinker

Neptune in 3rd could indicate the same thing. I have that placement.

I was into writing poetry,short stories,and reading a lot of mythology.

I won't really get into psychic,channeling stuff though. That's stuff that I'd keep to myself.....My Mercury in Scorpio in 3rd.

my Mercury-Neptune connections really played out big time


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posted August 17, 2010 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably you *need* a lot of humour to deal with the quinkunx.


Different element, different modality. There is just NO common ground in quinkunx and semisextiles, maybe they are the most difficult aspects at all.
Even a square has something in common (modality), which of course means that squarins signs may be locking horns constantly (especially in fixed signs) or are always slipping away like quicksilver (mutable signs).

The opposition has the same modality, too, but with supportive elements.

But quinkunx and semisextiles. Phew *wipes sweat away* different modalities, different and *incompatible* elements -t his sounds like much work to come to a balanced agreement.

Not easy to reach understanding that comes so naturally with a trine.

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posted August 17, 2010 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
great explanation DD!

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posted August 17, 2010 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks, Peri.

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posted August 17, 2010 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Wouldn't the semisextile (30 degrees) be a minor easy aspect with it being half a sextile (60 degrees) though?

there are disagreements among astrologers when it comes to what the semisextile is about

also half a semisextile is the quindecile (15 degrees).


I like the interpretation of the semisextile here:
The semi-sextile (abrv. SSx) is an angle of 30° (1/2 of a sextile [60°]). A separation of 30±2° is considered a semisextile. It is the basis of all the major aspects aside from the conjunction and the quintile. This aspect signifies a moderate rapport with the involved planets, where they both support the cause of the other but might not have enough of a realistic understanding of that same cause to contribute much. It will be important pragmatic effort be taken to reconcile this issue and create results. Alternate names include confinis and inconjunct. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect#Semi-sextile


The quincunx (or inconjunct, abrv. Inc) is an angle of 150°, which is five-twelfths of the 360° ecliptic. A separation of 150±2° is considered a quincunx. The quincunx is said to be of moderate but somewhat unpredictable influence, bringing strain. It indicates difficulty and stress, due to incompatible elements being forced together. It can mean an area of self neglect in a person's life (especially health), or obligations being forced on a person. This aspect is also sometimes called the inconjunct, though this usage is technically incorrect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect#Semi-sextile


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posted August 17, 2010 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A German astrologer, Bernd Mertz, used to say:
"There are no half-aspects".

I think it depends on your view on aspects in general.

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posted August 17, 2010 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
shrugs

yeah

but the word, semisextile technically means half a sextile. Maybe it needs to be changed.
We could just use the word,inconjunct

Robert Blaschke wrote some good stuff about 12th harmonic aspects in his book, ASTROLOGY A LANGUAGE OF LIFE: Volume II - Sabian Aspect Orbs.

I will share some of it later.

I also have the book, THE INCONJUNCT. I don't like how the author, Alan Epstein uses up to 10 degree orb for a semisextile and quincunx. I am like "WTF"

using orbs that wide, would run into other harmonic aspects like the biquintile,triseptile in regards to wide quincunx
undecile in regards to wide semisextile

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