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Topic: power struggles in relationships: dominance and control
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electricmind Knowflake Posts: 411 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 20, 2010 11:13 AM
hi lovely knowflakes.today i am thinking about how scorpio/pluto/8th house contacts are prevalent in all of my relationships...synastrically and in the composite as well (is tht a word?) i personally have mars conjunct saturn in scorpio and pluto in scorpio widely conjunct my libra midheaven. i wonder why i am attracted to/addicticted to the power struggles that arise with these placements. i have to know everything about a person. i have a compulsion to find out what their weakness is. its a type of psychological dominance. its happening now with a person whose mars is exactly conjunct my pluto. its crazy because once it happens i feel like i can no longer relate to this person because i'm over them mentally so to speak. sounds a bit power hungry too... i can't believe i'm just now identifying this...of course pluto is transiting my moon and ascendant right now. go figure! IP: Logged |
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 236 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted August 20, 2010 01:34 PM
Mine is similiar yet it differs in the fact that once this process starts i already know what the end game will be. **I got into one this morning, No it wasnt good. I have to let go and move on on purpose, because i wouldnt move on otherwise.
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electricmind Knowflake Posts: 411 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 20, 2010 01:49 PM
i can totally relate. once i dominant or read people in that way, they are like in love with me or become even more attracted, intrigued with me. although on my part, i can see how this behavior to i express inhibits people from really getting close to me. they think they are close to me because i'm in their head. but they don't ever really know me... on another note, there is a part of me that feels like i am unknowable. it could be the neptune conjunct ascendant/square moon...those parts of me are seem ethereal. or uncontainable by the mind. IP: Logged |
naturalbeige Knowflake Posts: 31 From: Portland, OR Registered: Jul 2010
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posted August 20, 2010 02:25 PM
I have Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio at the MC, and I think that suggests power struggles in my relationships. There are times where I wish that my relationship can mature into something more, and that leads to some frustration. However my relationship with my bf is not bad though, and we get along very well. I just feel like we're more platonic than romantic. There are positive aspects in our characters that nurture the relationship, too.IP: Logged |
naturalbeige Knowflake Posts: 31 From: Portland, OR Registered: Jul 2010
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posted August 20, 2010 02:27 PM
Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think Mars focuses more on assertiveness and aggression, where as Pluto is more subtle, secretive, powerful and possessive. I know that Scorpio is ruled by the two planets, yet I think it's more accurate to say that Pluto rules Scorpio, whereas Mars rules Aries.IP: Logged |
Peri Knowflake Posts: 1208 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 20, 2010 02:35 PM
I have Venus/Mars (2) opposition Pluto (8) natally. So yes, I used to have power struggles in the past too, however the last relationship was based on mutual trust, respect and unconditional love, it healed me and showed me how it really should be and I learnt that from a double Scorpio.IP: Logged |
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 236 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted August 20, 2010 02:47 PM
I rarely get into someones head anymore, or when i do i am very cautious about it.Like playing chess or chinese go. Step and make moves carefully. Ive become prone to not caring to do it on anything more than a removed/vicarious method of learning of others. I simply just don't want to get involved in the mess anymore. Im trying to balance this out because this makes me appear reclusive, Which makes people want to ask you why you are that way. Ill find a solution soon. The answer id like to give them is "im human." I tried that a few times, after so many deer in the headlight looks i couldnt take it anymore. Peoples idea of what being human is and what it means is so very different, case by case basis. Its none of my business what others do, but im just as curious as anyone else is, How ive tempered this is by reminding myself "it really is none of your d--n business, keep to yourself" People respond so much better when they are not judged, something in the act of having one human telling them something is wrong/ or right with another, It can cause extreme behavior. ___ I understand in my own way the "distanced feeling" you refer to. IP: Logged |
electricmind Knowflake Posts: 411 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 20, 2010 05:23 PM
@Mblake81yea i think that my resolution will be to just mind my business. but my aqua sun likes to treat people like science experiments. that combined with all of scorpio in my chart is like sherlock holmes. i really identified with the way he was portrayed in the movies recent release. i felt like it was me on the screen. dissecting people and situations ... combo of a scientifuc/intuitive ability to get to the bottom of anything. that sounds like aqua/scorpio energy to me ...
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Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 236 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted August 20, 2010 07:06 PM
Interesting,What keeps you going? i dont know how your mind works. IP: Logged |
electricmind Knowflake Posts: 411 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 20, 2010 07:36 PM
its like everything and everyone is a mystery to be solved. me and my bff joke that i could be a detective or private investigator. beyond my intuitive abilities, i can find out almost anything about anyone given just a few clues. and i generally pick up on clues without trying.most times, its quite exhausting for me to be in a room full of people. i tune in so intently that it wears me out. it takes me days to recover from large social gatherings. IP: Logged |
racole12 Knowflake Posts: 450 From: Cincinnati, OH, USA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted August 20, 2010 10:41 PM
I completely relate to the "its like everything and everyone is a mystery to be solved" but I don't have any planets in my 8th except a progressed Sun, DSC and Mars. (I do have Venus and Uranus in Scorpio) Pluto is exactly sextile to my Sun and inconj to my moon. But I thought it was caused by my Gemini Rising and my 4 saggie planets that allowed me to look at people as a puzzle... IP: Logged |
FrozenQueen Knowflake Posts: 132 From: The boundary where 'reality' ends and Dreams begin Registered: May 2010
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posted August 21, 2010 05:40 AM
Aries Mars in the 8th and power is my middle name.I'm fascinated by what makes people tick, what they are like away from the spotlights and glitter, what they are on the inside...and I would never respect someone who does not measure up. By measure up, I mean, I expect people to be true to themselves: what you see is what you get and unapologetic about it. I don't care if you are one "evil" person but you have to own up to that aspect of your personality. Extreme repulsion to any phoniness, especially if a person tries to hide it from themselves too(can't hide anything from me for long )...and terra firma has more than enough of these kinds and they're everywhere. ------------------ Damaged Love, brought us together... IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 3328 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 21, 2010 05:45 AM
Dear Frozen Queen If you lived near me, you would be my friend . x o x Ami ------------------ To will to be the self which one truly is,is indeed,the opposite of despair. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 1540 From: Ohio Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 21, 2010 04:17 PM
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hippichick Knowflake Posts: 445 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 21, 2010 04:43 PM
I dated a {psycho} Cancer whose asc was the same as mine....down to the degree.Now, he had his Sun, Venus and Mars, all conj in Cancer in the 8th, so guess what??? Fell in my 8th too.....control was the name of the game with this individual, but I do wonder if his Cap moon had something to do with it>>> t IP: Logged |
FrozenQueen Knowflake Posts: 132 From: The boundary where 'reality' ends and Dreams begin Registered: May 2010
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posted August 22, 2010 04:52 AM
Hey Ami...long time, huh?I second that...we could be real close friends ------------------ Damaged Love, brought us together... IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 3328 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 22, 2010 08:59 AM
Yes, Frozen Queen, most definately Ami
------------------ To will to be the self which one truly is,is indeed,the opposite of despair. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 3328 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 22, 2010 09:03 AM
Mblake helped me a lot on our 400 reply thread if no one noticed For me, I see a path ahead, with a light. I have to allow each of the energies(planets, aspects etc) to speak to ME. I don't have to use them in situations just know them and have them accessible. Also, and this is a psychological thing rather than astrological,I have to know and accept myself. This is the hardest part, perhaps. Accepting all of you is hard,I think. It is for me. What about other people? Ami
------------------ To will to be the self which one truly is,is indeed,the opposite of despair. IP: Logged |
FrozenQueen Knowflake Posts: 132 From: The boundary where 'reality' ends and Dreams begin Registered: May 2010
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posted August 22, 2010 09:10 AM
Actually, I did... but I didn't want to butt in in your discussion as I could see it was going well.Cheers to both of you. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 3328 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 22, 2010 09:38 AM
Oh, it was so weird. I felt like we were talking at a private dinner and then I had to remind myself that the whole internet was watching x o x Ami
------------------ To will to be the self which one truly is,is indeed,the opposite of despair. IP: Logged |