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mcmlxix
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posted August 21, 2010 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message
I've been feeling rather Martian for the past several years, so here's what I cobbled together from other sources and added my own self-observations that I thought were relevant. What do you think?

Mars in Sagittarius

Mars in Sagittarius can be a little hard to understand. Sometimes they seem to be the most easy-going of people; they love a good joke and a good time. Other times they are on fire, intense, and impassioned about something or other. Then without warning, they're the ones who will run away when things get too serious or dull. And finally, they'll likely be back soon; it's just that they need to feel free for a while or they go batty.

Most of the time, Mars in Sagittarius is playful and fun-loving. They love to talk, and vacillate between deep, philosophical entreaties and light and humorous anecdotes, with which they delight in entertaining and amusing their friends. They have vivid imaginations and are into creating colorful fantasy worlds. However, if they stay in these worlds too long, they loose the ability to manage their responsibilities of the material world. Their boundless curiosity and adventurousness may inspire them to explore distant realms, and they enjoy nothing more than traveling. They don't have a lot of patience to wait or spend a lot of time with complicated planning. They would rather just do it.

They love friendly debates, although they can go to extremes. When these people argue, their inability to always stick to only one point of view can drive more single-minded people crazy. They can also all too easily pick up a moralistic stance that really drives everyone around them crazy. More likely than not, however, they jump off their high horse sooner than later, and get back to having fun. Mars in Sagittarius is used to getting their way, and they are persuasive, but every now and again, they face the few that don't quite buy their grand theories and plans. This is when these normally fun-loving people get bored, frustrated, or angry.

When people with Mars in Sagittarius get angry, they feel like running. They have to do something, not about it, but something else altogether. If they don't already do so, people with this position of Mars should seriously consider physical activity as the best means of anger management. They probably already enjoy sports, or anything to expend energy or express speed. Since Sagittarius rules the legs, they might excel at basketball, soccer, skiing, running, or bicycling. However unless there are some stabilizing influences they are unlikely to develop the discipline and determination to develop their talent fully. They want to have a good time, and once it becomes work, they loose interest.

People with Mars in Sagittarius generally have a number of projects going at once. They are not known for their follow through, however! They start up new projects with admirable gusto, but their vision and optimism can get in the way of completing what they start. They want to do so much, and they trash things too easily when a new idea takes hold. Mars in Sagittarius loves to "wing it". They have a tendency to scatter their energy, and like the mythical Centaur, they shoot their arrows high and in every direction just to see where they land. Since their attention span is short and interest many, they often start things and fail to finish them on time or at all. It seems they are always late and rushing madly from place to place.

They see wit, optimism, and adventurousness as desirable qualities in others. Proud of their sense of humor and playfulness, they enjoy nothing more than hanging out with their pals, joking around, drinking, and getting lost in adventure. Free and easy with their time and money, they also often lack the ability to deal with life's mundane issues or making their payments on time. These things often slip their mind.

They believe that they are invincible, and their optimism can get them through tough times. Often they succeed only because they don't stop to think about failing. They are con artists, and can even manage to convince them self that their snake oil really works. Even when their fanciful schemes don't pan out, they bounce back, and move on to new fancies. To them it's all a game, and it's not the rules nor the winning that counts, but they playing.

Love is also a game to be enjoyed, but not taken too seriously. Although loyal, it's difficult for them to fully commit to one person. This paradox (remember that they're hard to understand) is due to their terror of being trapped or possessed. They will break through a short leash. Give them space, share their grand plans, and they'll stick around. Showing them your independent side and sharing your quest for adventure will make you attractive to them.

Mars in Sagittarius people see themselves as warm-blooded folk. They are, but they sometimes run roughshod over others' feelings, particularly when they're on fire. They can be blunt with people, although if they have a more tactful Mercury placement, this quality will be subdued. Their direct, blunt approach is most obvious in bed. They're passionate lovers, and are turned on by open-mindedness and good humor. But, they are not usually patient when sex gets too intricate or serious. Sex is just like any other sport to them.

Jupiter rules Sagittarius, and like their ideas, passions, and energy, their sexual desires are expansive. These lovers are direct and forthcoming with their needs and desires with an almost innocent frankness. They love to have fun in bed, or just as often outdoors. Laughing and roughhousing are huge turn-ons, but they are actually a bit selfish in sex. Their need to get their way will almost always be expressed. Games are acceptable for Sagittarius lovers, just as long as they are not too time consuming or intricate. They have little patience with people talking about or deciding everything in advance. If you play hard to get or beat around the bush with them, you will end you without them. The same goes for too much seriousness or romancing. The best way to approach sex with these people is to just do it.

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posted August 21, 2010 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
My son has this... he's on the basketball team, track team, and he loves skateboarding and bicycling.

He's an awesome dude, but I am a bit partial.

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posted August 21, 2010 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message
I was was an avid soccer player in my youth and was practically born on a bicycle...I haven't had a car in the past 10 years, which is possible with being very urban.

My love of speed and aggressive riding style has led to a few mishaps, but what's a little road rash. I also find my bike to be my best friend when I need to get away from what I perceive as other's clinginess.

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posted August 21, 2010 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message
GypseeWind...does your son have the stabilizing influences to help him with disciplining his sports skills? Since he's on teams, I'd assume he does.

I really don't think I do. One would think that my Virgo Sun (luckily not squared to Mars) would help with this, but it doesn't seem to. And my Mars-Pluto square makes things a bit challenging.

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posted August 21, 2010 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
I have this but I hate most team sports. Just seems boring and pointless, I don't even like watching it. But I love dancing. I did ballet for 9 years and was on the dance team in high school.

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posted August 21, 2010 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message
amowls...in my 20s you couldn't keep me off the dance floor...but it certainly wasn't anything that would require the discipline that I expect ballet would.

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posted August 21, 2010 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Actually, he's a pretty good team player (and dancer, btw..!) I was pretty surprised at his ability to take alot of crap from his coach when things weren't going good.
I personally have trouble with that..
Here's his chart.

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posted August 21, 2010 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message
amowls...I'd also concur with the watching sports thing. My position would be if you like, just do it, not watch others doing it. The exception to this for me is martial arts...and baseball when the Twins are doing well. But with martial arts I do end up doing it, but after a course in a particular style, I loose interest.

GypseeWind...one hemisphere...wow...I'll have to look at that.

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posted August 21, 2010 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Yep, MCM, he's an intense little guy..
I've always been fascinated by his chart.
He's The Golden Child. Loved by all.
Seriously, I've never met a person so well loved in all my life.
Wherever he goes, he makes friends.

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posted August 22, 2010 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message
GypseeWind...

Since Mars & Sag are the topics here, I looked at that most.

As far as the single hemisphere...yes I see that it's not strictly the eastern hemisphere between midheaven and nadir...but it is 6 contiguous houses. This might activate the Sagittarian independence and action orientation.

Likewise the Sun in Scorp & Moon in Cap combination is also likely to activate the sense of independence and will to debate, as well as a sense of duty.

Mercury in Libra is supposed to make the bluntness of Mars in Sag more diplomatic, but in my case, I'm not so sure that's true. My friends and family would certainly deny this.

The strong Scorpionic (Sun & Venus) influence, will attenuate the emotional abstraction of Sag, but it also might set up a double standard here. Scorpio likes to possess, while Sag wants not to be possessed.

Of course Sag and Jupiter are intimately linked. Jupiter square its opposite Saturn is interesting. Besides being about karma, the contraction implicit in Saturn will conflict with the expansiveness of Jupiter. This is where the discipline comes from...and that Cappy Moon doesn't hurt either and increases competitiveness. A sense of duty is also implied...to society, family, and team. Unfortunately the 9th house is empty as far as seeing how that plays with Sag.

The packed first house...especially with the inclusion of Mars there, is particularly Martian. Independence, activeness, directness, and spontaneity, are both Arian and Sagittarian. Saggitarian expansiveness, generosity, love of travel, and philosophical bent are influenced by Jupiter here. Yet again, Aires is empty.

I also see conflict, independence and duty aren't the most harmonious bedfellows...or maybe they should be. Independence seems to be prevalent though. Whatever it is, he has a powerful personality.

Ok, I'm probably full of it, but that's my amateur interpretation.

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posted August 22, 2010 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message
GypseeWind...yes, this kid has gravitational pull...he has "orbit".

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posted August 22, 2010 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Nah, you know your stuff.

Now what I find amusing, for lack of a better word, is that I am a Sag sun with Aries rising, and his father is a cap sun.
Cappie moon is a family trait on my fathers side. Weird, huh?

His very existance has always felt very karmic to me.
He was a total surprise, although I dreamt of him for two years before he got here, AND I was told by two psychics of a strong male presense that wanted to be born to me.
We both nearly died during labor, it was an extremely difficult birth, and we both had to stay in the hospital for one full week.

When he was small he could recall his past lives, and he used to tell me of those that we had been together.

Most people say that we are just alike, but I notice with him, he's very adaptable to his surroundings. Which is probably why he's very popular. Not to say that he's a follower, he is just able to fit in very well in a multitude of surroundings.

I think the Cappy is good for him too.
I have a Cap Mc, and, in his case I see his cappy manifesting in such a way that he is able to make long range plans for his life much advanced for someone his age.
He's like a mini adult, always has been.

He does have BOTH the strong Arien drive to win, AND the cappy responsibility to the team.
He never misses a practice.
I personally think that this is a good combo for an athelete.
He also has the saggie positivity going for him.
He's pretty short for his age, and he probably won't grow much taller if genetics have anything to say about it, but, he doesn't let that get him down.
Even though he might be suited better for some other sports, he doesn't let anyone deter him from his love of basketball.

He has scored above average on all his tests with minimal effort.
I have been told a scholarship will probably be in his future, and I believe it will.

But, also, I sense an innate struggle with depression, although he hides it well.
Depression runs in our family as well.
Anyway, thanks for your interps on my very best friend on this earth, and a truly gifted individual who everyone is blessed to know.
I know, shut up Mom, huh?

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posted August 22, 2010 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message
"...he's very adaptable to his surroundings. Which is probably why he's very popular. Not to say that he's a follower, he is just able to fit in very well in a multitude of surroundings." Why not? Scoripo is not a follower, but it is a chameleon and Sagittarius is mutable. "...an innate struggle with depression..." There's that Jupiter-Saturn square.

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posted August 22, 2010 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message
Instead of "Why not?" I should have said, "And why wouldn't he be?"

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posted August 22, 2010 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message
Speaking of karma, mine surrounds the 7th & 12th houses and Venus.

Venus square Saturn is not the best thing for love, which is unfortunate, because Venus in Leo is all about loving being in love with love.

My North Node is in the 7th house and Venus in the 12th. The lesson I'm supposed to learn is to surrender myself and loose my ego to love and relationships. But my packed 1st house and strong Martian influence make this a bit of a challenge along with the Venus-Saturn square.

Oh well, I have free will, but I also have my work cut out for me.

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posted August 22, 2010 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?

Of course it's going to be different for everyone, and I consider myself extremely immature, BUT, I didn't start really working towards my NNode until I was in my 40's, which is why I was curious about your age...

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posted August 22, 2010 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message
41 in a couple weeks.

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posted August 22, 2010 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message
I forgot to add that my NN in the 7th is also in Pisces. But the self-negation of Pisces in love/relationships is also covered by Venus in the 12th. I guess what my chart is saying here is...come on, are you paying attention to this!

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