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Ami Ann
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posted August 23, 2010 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
My experience with Chiron and my mother is that she came to my Chiron for HER healing.
Her Sun(ego ) is in exact conjunction with my Chiron.
My theory is the planet person comes to the Chiron as one would go to a doctor/any kind of healer

I think it has to be a conjunction and very close(1-2 degrees)

In this case, it was bad for me cuz I was a child and could not heal my mother, of course.

However, my theory is that it can be good in some relationships where one person helps another person.

My theory is also that THAT particular planet (of the planet person) will get healed.
In other words, if a Sun hits a Chiron, the ego will get healed. If Mars hits a Chiron , the drive will get healed.
If Venus hits a Chiron, one's sense of one's beauty and worth will get healed.

Please write any Chiron stories.
Thanks so much,

Ami

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raspberri
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posted August 23, 2010 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
Healing only happens when the Chiron person has the strength to be a healer. Sometimes they havent yet achieved this and their life is still in the process of finding that strength.

I have Venus (me) conjunct Chiron (him) exact and his Chiron is badly aspected so he hurts me but I think it's because he still hasn't learned how to be a healer. However as time goes by and he gets older I'm sure the pain he is causing me now will be healed by him and will only be able to be healed by him.

Venus/Chiron in synastry is really quite beautiful. It's deep and there are no boundaries between the people and thats not easy for everyone to take.

I haven't experienced any other Chiron synastry.

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DD
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posted August 23, 2010 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I have a guy`s Sun conjunct my Chiron.
I was the one being hurt.

Or let`s put it differently. I was in a very vulnearable place. Just through being himself (Sun) he confronted me with my basically unhealable wound, which I experienced as severe wounding for many years.
BUT once I had accepted that this wound IS unhealable, the healing started.
I realized that healing came through accepting this wound.
It also means that I am very aware of other people`s wounds, if they are similiar to my own (retro Chiron in Aries in 4th house), and often people come to me for healing or to show them a way how to heal themselves concerning selfassertiveness and emotions.
Nearly all of my friends have severe problems with their parents, especially their mothers.
I have a loving family background, maybe that is the reason why they think I can show them a way to handle their own background family relationships.
My mum`s mum died when my mum was 17, and this feeling of loss and the fear of losing loved ones was transferred from her to me. Though I did not DIRECTLY experienced the premature loss of my parents, I did it through my empathy (or maybe even genetics), which probably is one of the explanations for why my family and me are so closely knitted. We just KNOW how it feels to lose a loved one, when you need them the most.

But as it is I experienced my Chiron as my wound and my healing, which makes sense to me, as Chiron signifies a wound, and since it is my Chiron, it has to be my wound.
But of course once projection comes into play, noone can be certain anymore who wounds and heals whom.


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Peri
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posted August 23, 2010 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
ohhh, it is really difficult to tell who hurts/heals who judging just by Chiron aspects but taking into account the aspects I listed below I think the planet person benefits from the Chiron person. (whether it is painful or not for the planet person depends on the aspect I think)

here's the list of synastry aspects between me and someone who had a profound healing effect on me emotionally:

his Chiron trine my Moon (orb=1°)
his Chiron trine my Neptune (2)
his Chiron square my ASC (1)

my Chiron opposite his Sun (orb=1°)
my Chiron conj his Mars (1)
my Chiron square his Jupiter (1)
my Chiron sextile his Saturn (2)
my Chiron trine his NN (sextile SN) (2)
my Chiron square his ASC (1)

As you can see his Chiron makes supportive aspects to my planets (except ASC) so I got more healed by him than he by me (his own words btw)

I did have some healing effect on him too but only a tiny bit compared to what what he did for me; also our relationship was very painful for him because it made him face and acknowledge some deeply hidden fears that he used as a protection from knowing something about himself that he did not want to know ...he was also going through tr. Pluto conj n. SN (eliminating old stuff) and sextile n. Sun transits so eventually he became a totally new person, he had literally shed his old Self like a snake sheds its skin.

As you can see we have Chiron square ASC/DSC double whammy so our relationship and communication ended due to some factors that I think are partially beyond our control but I will always think about him with LOVE and gratitude.

btw he has Chiron conj MC natally, a wounded healer indeed!

so yeah, the nurse is the Chiron person, the ass is the planet person and if the aspect is stressful it is very 'ouch'!
if the aspect is supportive is it more like

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raspberri
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posted August 23, 2010 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
It's not hard to tell who hurts who for me because he hurts me I know that much I'm the planet person. I give love to him unconditionally.

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Peri
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posted August 23, 2010 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
raspberri, yes you are the planet person so you are the one that gets a bitter pill because it looks like you put him before yourself that's why it hurts you to love him unconditionally so he is there to heal you = read teach you in a painful way to love your Self

*just my 2 cents

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Healing only happens when the Chiron person has the strength to be a healer.

I agree. When the Chiron person cannot heal the planet person, he/she tends to hurt the latter thus highlingting the problem area so that the planet person does it themself. This reminds me of Gary Oldman's line from The 5th Element: If you want something done right do it yourself.

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raspberri
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posted August 23, 2010 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
Peri, makes sense...

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Lioness
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posted August 23, 2010 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
My Natal Chiron is in my 1st house. (Aries)
Chiron opposite my Uranus. (uranus in the 7th)
Uranus Sextiles my Sun,Moon,Mercury
Then Sun,moon,Mercury sextiles Saturn
Uranus rules my 12th house.
My Mars is in the 6th..
Pluto conjunct my DSC but in the 6th.
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I usually have strong Chrion links with most people. Its usually my Chiron to them,rarely is it their Chiron to me.

It seems as if all of a sudden people seek me out for some sort of advice, or just understanding and support...This is done secretly and privately as a never discuss these matters with anyone.. Some of these issue's has been so deep ,that other people just wouldn't understand. These are people from all walks of life..I just seem to understand what they are going through,and what they need.. The words sometimes just flow through, sometimes I dont even know where the words come from.. ITs kinda strange.. Then one day they go away and I never see or hear from them again.. These are both men and women, but for the most part its men.. Usually these are not romantic interests.

I have also been witness to accidents, and have jumped into action, staying with the person until an ambulance has arrived just holding there hand and giving comfort... I always just seem to be right there when It happens..

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Ami Ann
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posted August 23, 2010 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Gonna come back and read ,later.
I am so glad this thread resonated with people.

I wanted to get the sense across that it is an energy and not that someone is a jerk if their planet goes to the Chiron person

The interchange may or may not work, depending on the people, but it is an energy which is there between the two people and I wanted to discuss that.

I will be back to read,later

x o x Ami
PS I think the Chiron person has to be strong enough to heal the planet person, for sure.
I think that is a key to a successful Chiron/planet relationship

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DD
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posted August 23, 2010 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm, strange that I experienced it so differently from you all.
But maybe the reason is that my Saturn is squaring my Chiron by 3 degrees. :shrugs:

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Ami Ann
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posted August 23, 2010 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
You know, I am reluctant to share this and you will know why when I do.

My son who died had his Chiron conjunct my Mercury,exactly.

He was a very "with it" person. He was young but he always seemed to have an understanding of people and was popular in whatever setting he was in.
He was academically smart ,too.

I say that to say that His Chiron, perhaps, fed my Mercury even though I NEVER wanted it that way.
I never wanted to take from my children,just to give.

However, the charts ARE the charts.
I wonder if I relied on his street smarts cuz I was going down in to a hole.

You know, I think I did.
I remember one incident where the dog was sick.
I let it go and thought she would get over it.
He said,"Mom, take her to the vet"
I did and she would have died that night if I had not.

He was very "with it" as I said. I bring this up to say maybe I DID feed my Mercury from him.
I think I did.

I bring it up to show Chiron. I am reluctant to even leave this post here cuz I feel so exposed and really ,horrible , about myself.
I will leave it for now.

Ami
PS I just looked at my other son's chart. My Venus is on his Chiron.
What is the lesson in all this?
Do we have to make sure we don't go to the wrong people for healing?
I mean, you obviously cannot control your chart.
I wonder what IQ thinks if he is reading.


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Alvarella777
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posted August 23, 2010 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
PERI: Is it possible for you to analyze that Chiron-square-ASC-aspect in your synastry more specifically? How would you describe it? I'm curioous because I am interested in a person, currently - We have got a classically "mixed" or "mediocre" Synastry (which basically soothes my nerves - because I certainly don't want to get pulled into anything "obsessive" again, like my last love). But THIS aspect does worry me a bit: His CHIRON squares my ASC by 0 degree. Furthermore: Right now, since spring and up untill autumn he's got his Chiron-return and transiting Chiron is squaring my ASC. Tr. Chiron is about at 27° Aquarius right now - right on his natal Chiron. My ASC ist at 27° Scorpio. So that square in our Synastry is triggered RIGHT NOW ... We're not a couple o something - just maybe about to get closer in a very shy, timid way ... What do you think, PERI?

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Peri
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posted August 23, 2010 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
Alvarella, I have come to a conclusion that lots of things depend on how willing you are to maintain a healthy relationship with someone and how considerate you are of their feelings, it is easy to make the other feel inferior and stupid even without this aspect and with this aspect in particular you need to be very compassionate and empathetic about their 'quirks'. In my relationship with the person mentioned above, we were both good to each other so we never had this problem.

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