posted August 24, 2010 12:09 PM            

(And YES, non-believers-in-past-lives, that means, there is absolutely no need to try and convert anyone here ).

Jokes aside.

It seems to be that certain asteroids, linked to particular times, in the natal chart might be a hint to past lives.

(Of course we have to keep in mind, that it also might "just" point to incorporating the ideas of the asteroids into our lives - like KNIGHT shining a light on our protective sides- or relates to interests we have).

Still, the asteroids and DRaco charts, may be our "best bet" on pointint towards past lives (which is just a hypothesis, and still has to be proven).

But to me it clearly makes NO sense at all to consider all possible aspects, like 5 degree sextiles, or so.

Personally (and that is only my opinion, though since it is mine, I am pretty certain it is not too far fetched, if I believed otherwise, it would not be my opinion at all),

so personally I think that ONLY conjunctions show where our IDENTITY melts with PAST LIFE (asteroids).

So I thought about what could be seen as identification objects, in a physical, emotional and spiritual sense?

I have come up with these (and yes, there WILL be ast`roids):

Sun
Moon
ASC
IC
Venus (for women)
Mars (for men) - oh boy I feel so sexistic today!
Spirit
Aura
DNA

I also find these karmic pointers interesting:
Saturn
Pluto
South Node
Karma

posted August 24, 2010 01:13 PM            

btw I have asteroid Portugal sesquiquadrate/semisquare the Midheaven/IC, and I am part Portuguese on my mom's side of the family

I have asteroids Africa-Africano sextile/trine Midheaven/IC, and I am part African on my father's side of the family

I have asteroid Niger sextile Ascendant, and I am part Black from my father's side

Niger is the Latin word for Black and not just the name of a country in Africa.

I have Mesopotamia oppose/conjunct the Midheaven/IC
That can definitely suggest Mesopotamian family ancestry which is actually true for me on my maternal grandmother's side.

------------------
Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted August 24, 2010 01:16 PM            

My Tropical Chart:

Sun: Cancer 8
Moon: Capricorn 8
ASC: Libra 12
IC: Capricorn 13
Venus: Gemini 14
Mars: Pisces 22
Spirit: Libra 16
Aura: Scorpio 23
DNA: Aquarius 3

Saturn: Sagittarius 28
Pluto: Scorpio 9
SN: Virgo 16
Karma: Virgo 12

My Draconic Chart:

Sun: Cancer 21
Moon: Capricorn 22
ASC: Libra 26
IC: Capricorn 27
Venus: Gemini 27
Mars: Aries 6
Spirit: Libra 29
Aura: Sagittarius 6
DNA: 16 Aquarius

Saturn: Capricorn 12
Pluto: Scorpio 23
Karma: Virgo 25

His Tropical Chart:

Sun: Libra 9
Moon: Taurus 24
ASC: Taurus 2
IC: Cancer 20
Venus: Virgo 13
Mars: Virgo 14
Spirit: Cancer 22
Aura: Taurus 19
DNA: Cancer 6

Saturn: Scorpio 25
Pluto: Scorpio 3
SN: Scorpio 9
Karma: Sagittarius 19

His Draconic Chart:

Sun: Virgo 0
Moon: Aries 15
ASC: Pisces 23
IC: Gemini 11
Venus: Leo 4
Mars: Leo 5
Spirit: Gemini 12
Aura: Aries 10
DNA: Taurus 26

Saturn: Libra 15
Pluto: Virgo 24
Karma: Scorpio 10

I see so many things here but this connection is very strong it feels like he is my other half. The emotions are very intense; I only included very tight conjunctions and oppositions...

-His Draconic ASC exactly conjunct my Natal Mars which rules my 7th house.

-His Draconic Saturn on my Natal ASC

-His Draconic Moon on my Natal DSC

-His Draconic IC on my Natal Venus rules my 1st house

-His Draconic Spirit on my Natal Venus

-His Draconic Aura on my Natal DSC

-His Draconic DNA on my Jupiter/Aphrodite

-His Draconic Karma on my Natal Pluto

-His Draconic Moon oppose my Natal Spirit

-My Draconic Sun on his Natal IC

-My Draconic Sun on his Natal Spirit

-My Draconic Moon oppose his Natal Spirit

-My Draconic Pluto oppose his Natal Moon

-My Draconic Pluto conjunct his Natal Saturn

-My Draconic DNA oppose his Draconic Pluto

-My Draconic Karma conjunct his Draconic Pluto

-My Natal Sun conjunct his Natal DNA

-My Natal ASC conjunct his Natal Sun

-My Natal Aura oppose his Natal Moon

-My Natal Aura conjunct his Natal Saturn

-My Natal Aura oppose his Natal Aura (NICE!!!!)

-My Natal Pluto conjunct his Natal SN

-My Natal SN conjunct his Natal Venus/Mars

-My Natal Karma conjunct his Natal Venus/Mars

posted August 24, 2010 01:21 PM            

yes, of course.

IT does not need to be "limited" to past life stuff, but it could indicate that, too.
Though maybe the Draco`s, calculated with the South Node would be more relevant here?

Anyway,

if conjunctions to identifications-objects are present,

I would proceed to check:

° conjunctions / oppositions within 3 degrees

° other aspects within 1 degree.

I have seen an example of:

ARTEMIS on 16.3 Libra conjunct IRELAND on 15.2 Libra
trine DNA on 16.5 Aquarius
trine EXCALIBUR on 15.5 Gemini

posted August 24, 2010 01:32 PM            

why Sirius / Mars?
Oh, my mistake, I was thinking of Celtic asteroids only, but of course I kept my writing open to anything. lol

Anyway Merlin / Sun, Vivian / IC, Lancelot / Karma and Arthur / NN seem to point to a strong link there.

With Arthur / NN, I am not sure if it points to a past life, as NN is tied to your present life - so you are developing into a mature, idealistic, humanitarian character?

Merlin / Sun (I have it, too) could point to you having a "way with words" (and please remember: language/ words ARE magic) or if the asteroids in tropical point towards possible past lives, you might have been a Merlin-like character, having to do with magic, witchcraft and probably also playing the role of teacher / tutor.

Lancelot / SN - a Lancelot character played a role in your past life. Either it was you, or you had a relationship with some "Lancelot".

In your case I would proceed checking this out, in the Draco`s, too.

RAsperri,

posted August 24, 2010 01:38 PM            

TRISTAN conjunct Venus (2)

GUINEVERE conjunct Spirit exact
ISOLDA conjunct IC (1)
ISOLDA conjunct AURA (1)

MERLIN conjunct Sun

IRELAND conjunct ATLANTIS conjunct ASC (2/1)

WHITEKNIGHT conjunct Karma (2)

I think I most probably was a female in my celtic past life. (Well, I know that from my dreams )

TRISTAN conjunct Venus is not just an aspect of identity, but Venus also usually signifies what we love. So it would not be surprising if I loved a Tristan, especially since TRISTAN / Venus square ISOLDA /Aura/IC exact and opposes EXCALIBUR.

posted August 24, 2010 01:52 PM            

for past life relationships, I would mainly focus on Draco-Draco-comparision.
To see how that transfers into the present incarnation, we of course have to consider conjunctions to tropical planets, too.

So in your case - past life technically-:

Your Sun trine his ASC (2)
your Moon trine his DESC (1)
Your Moon trine his Pluto (2)
your IC trine his DNA (1)
Your Mars trine his Venus (2)
Your Mars trin ehis Mars (1)
Your Aura trine his Venus (2)
Your Aura trin ehis Mars (1)
Your DNA trine his Saturn (1)
Your Saturn square his Aura (2)
your Pluto trine his ASC (0)
Your Karma conjunct his DESC (2)
Your Karma trine his DNA (1)
your Karma conjunct his Pluto (1)

The strongest ones are conjunctions, and so the "anchor" might be Karma/Pluto and Karma / DESC.

There are also some connections implying a spiritual "relation" as well as some "attraction"-markers.
Most of them are trines, which speaks of basic (past life) compatibility, but I am not sure how strong trines are on their own.
Could be that there was a feeling of potential compatibility and attraction, which would not have led into anything (but good feelings, independently of any kind of relationship), if it was not for the Karma aspects to DESC and Pluto. Sounds pretty intense karmic stuff to me.
But with the trines there, you probably had a good chance to make a "good job" in that past life.

The hot spot that is like the "door" to your past life relation is around 23-25 Virgo.

As you can see that opposes your Pisces-Mars, so through your Mars you can access this "old" story.
He doesn`T have planets opposing or conjunct there, so maybe he is not as aware of it as you are?

To see if there was an intimate relationship between you, you might also want to check the Draco`s in term of:

Ceres
Psyche

Juno
Amor
Valentine

Eros
Aphrodite
Lust

posted August 24, 2010 01:55 PM            

i find it synchronistic that they are all from the same period/legend and that very few of the other pastlife periods we have looked at here signify much with my chart, though there are some conjunctions to be sure.

i put sirius/mars because it is a strong conjunction. i realize that theme belongs more in IQ's starseed thread....and was forgetting i also have isis conj mars!

posted August 24, 2010 01:57 PM            

My neat little list for celtic asteroids is (as of now):

adulterous lovers:
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Arthur, Lancelot, Guinevere
Marc, Tristan, Isolde

witchcraft / covens / druids / cult
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Vesta
Artemis (?)
Hekate
Walpurga
Brigitta
Merlin

Warrior
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Excalibur
Knight
Whiteknight
Galahad
Gawain
Parsifal
Lancelot

posted August 24, 2010 02:01 PM            

Great point!

My belief in reincarnation includes a belief that past incarnations as both male and female are a regular for souls.

I believe that I have strong female pastlife history, but then could just be my high estrogen levels factoring in.

------------------
Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted August 24, 2010 02:01 PM            

yes, Karma and SN, I mistyped there. But I think Karma has similiarities to SN on the one hand and Saturn on the other hand anyway.

Either you WERE a Lancelot character, or a Lancelot character played a big part in your past, and yes, it is now the time to develop a more Arthurian theme.

BTW my Lancelot is pretty near your 20 Scorpio stellium, though not precise. It is on 16.4 Scorpio conjunct Walpurga on 18.4 Scorpio.

posted August 24, 2010 02:03 PM            

yes, I am not very happy with that dichotomy myself, and I actually concentrate more on Sun, Moon, ASC and some others anyway.

But for most folks today, they are born into a certain biological gender (I know that it is not true for everyone) and according to it Venus or Mars might be stronger, though as I said, I am not really satisfied with it.

Sure we all had past lives as both, male and female, but I think this will become visible in the gender of the theme asteroids probably.

Like Guinevere / Isolda falling onto Sun and ASC for example, and in another case Arthur and Lancelot falling onto Sun and ASC.
I am not sure though that this relaly indicates a biological gender, but maybe more so a psychological one?

posted August 24, 2010 02:04 PM            

Off the top of my head I know his Natal Eros is at 24 Virgo.

Im gonna check the other asteroids you listed b back in a min.

posted August 24, 2010 02:09 PM            

Check.

So it is through his erotic attraction, that the door to your soul-connection is opened.

posted August 24, 2010 02:20 PM            

° ARTHUR conjunct GAWAIN conjunct SUN/MOON-mp conjunct Antivertex, opposite EROS

° LANCELOT conjunct WALPURGA opposite my name

° TRISTAN conjunct VENUS opposite EXCALIBUR

° TRISTAN conjunct KNIGHT conjunct VESTA conjunct STONEHENGE

° GUINEVERE conjunct SPIRIT

° MERLIN conjunct Sun conjunct Mercury

° WHITEKNIGHT conjunct ASTARTE conjunct KAALI conjunct INANNEN conjunct KARMA

° IRELAND conjunct ATLANTIS conjunct ASC conjunct LUST conjunct ANGEL conjunct AMOR

under one degree aspects
--------------------------

ARTHUR conjunct Sun/Moon-mp
ARTHUR conjunct Antivertex
ARTHUR conjunct GAWAIN
ARTHUR opposite EROS
GAWAIN conjunct Sun/Moon-mp
GAWAIN conjunct AVX
GAWAIN opposite Eros

LANCELOT square Moon
LANCELOT trine Saturn
LANCELOT trine Juno

TRISTAN square ISOLDA

GUINEVERE conjunct Spirit

VESTA conjunct KNIGHT
VESTA conjunct STONEHENGE
KNIGHT conjunct STONEHENGE

ARTEMIS trine VAlentine

HEKATE square ASC
HEKATE square Atlantis
HEKATE square Lust
HEKATE square Angel
(I guess I was a bad bad girl )

BRIGITTA trine GALAHAD

EXCALIBUR opposite Venus

WHITEKNIGHT trine Aphrodite
(WHITEKNIGHT conjunct Kaali and Inannen)

IRELAND conjunct Mars

ATLANTIS conjunct Lust
ATLANTIS conjunct ASC (1.1)
ATLANTIS conjunct Angel

posted August 24, 2010 02:22 PM            

For example:
my DRACO Vesta/Knight/Stonehenge/(Tristan) conjuncts my Chiron by one degree and opposes my DNA by one degree.

posted August 24, 2010 02:26 PM            

Ceres: Aries 13
Psyche: Scoprio 23
Juno: Cancer 8
Amor: Aquarius 8
Aphrodite: Gemini 8
Valentine: Cancer 22
Eros: Aries 22
Lust: Taurus 1

My Natal Chart:

Ceres:Pisces 22
Psyche: Scorpio 10
Juno: Gemini 24
Amor: Capricorn 25
Aphrodite: Taurus 24
Valentine: Cancer 8
Eros: Aries 9
Lust: Aries 17

His Draconic Chart:

Ceres: Cancer 9
Psyche: Taurus 10
Juno: Virgo 19
Amor: Libra 14
Aphrodite: Virgo 3
Valentine: Libra 24
Eros: Leo 15
Lust: Virgo 22

His Natal Chart:

posted August 24, 2010 02:36 PM            

The "identification-analysis" (I couldn`t think of a good word here) of this guy was:

WALPURGA conjunct Moon
HEKATE conjunct Karma

But no conjunctions to the "lovers".

Does t hat mean he didn`t have a past life in ancient England?
No locations conjunct his identification objects either.
There seems to be a past life dealing with witchcraft, though was it in England?
Without conjunctions of "persons" and "locations" I doubt that vehemently.

BUT his ISOLDA is exactly conjunct my TRISTAN. What does this mean?

I interprete it this way:
I did not know him in my celtic life, as his natal just doesn`t give enough hints towards a past life in Ancient England.

BUT what probably took or takes place is a relation-mechanisms that shows features of the Tristan/Isolda-story.
It doesn`t mean we WERE Tristan and Isolda, only that we maybe were LIKE them, as they are archetypes / rolemodels for a certain kind of relationship. and this is what they seem to indicate in our synastry,

Actually we have a DW
His Tristan is trine my Isolda within 2 degrees, too.
In our composite Tristan is trine Isolda with only 7 minutes of orb, the tightest aspect.
Composite Isolda conjuncts his SN and my Moon exactly, Composite Tristan opposes his Sun and my Draco Sun exactly.

posted August 24, 2010 04:17 PM            

Kat,