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kfn327 Knowflake Posts: 34 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 26, 2010 11:38 AM
Are you often called stuck up or snobby, when you're actually not? Or, do you have friends or loved ones who people think are snobby when you know they're open, kind, and loving -- and perhaps just a little shy and reserved? I wonder if this is connected to anything astrological? Perhaps it's just an individual temperament (clashing with another's), or a way people are raised, or a response to society? IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 4398 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2010 11:48 AM
my mother told me that people thought she was stuck up because of her reserve and not talking much to others, but she was just very shy I truly believe in the saying "You can't judge a book by its cover"
maybe it's more of a social thing
my Mom's Venus is conjunct Uranus but her Venus square Neptune-Sedna opposition. She has Saturn in Scorpio in 5th trine Cancer Ascendant it might also be to her extreme sensitivities
her Ascendant,Mercury,Venus,Jupiter,and Uranus in Cancer along with Moon and Saturn in Scorpio, and so she's very strong in water. The South Lunar Node is also in Cancer which conjuncts her Mercury She also has Sun in Gemini that is located in the 12th house trine Neptune,sextile Pluto.
She has transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Orcus conjunct her Ascendant with 10 minutes of arc. That is similar to having Pluto conjunct the Ascendant. It can indicate extreme sensitivity,intensity,and nonconformity that lead to one desire privacy and lead one to be reserved
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Nephthys Moderator Posts: 665 From: California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2010 11:55 AM
quote: I truly believe in the saying "You can't judge a book by its cover"
No one can know what is in another person's heart, soul, or their life experiences. You truley cannot know a person until you have walked in their shoes. The outward appearance does reflect the individual somewhat, (grooming habits, health, etc.) but is an illusion to the true self. You can't know someone else's personality until you spend time with them and get to know them. IP: Logged |
kfn327 Knowflake Posts: 34 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 26, 2010 12:06 PM
When I get to know people, I am regularly told, "You seemed so stuck up when I met you." This happened today again, so I started this thread.My sister jokes that it's my facial features (piercing dark eyes, thick dark eyebrows, a small mouth). Also, socially speaking, women are often expected to smile a lot, and I don't smile unless it's natural because I smile showing my teeth, and I don't know how to fake that. I do gaze at people with love and try to smile with my eyes, but sometimes people think you're crazy when you gaze at them upon your first meeting with crinkled eyes and delight. But hey - it won't stop me! :-) IP: Logged |
amowls* Knowflake Posts: 1438 From: richmond va Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2010 12:51 PM
quote: women are often expected to smile a lot
YUP. It's so annoying. My default facial expression makes me look mad or upset. People are afraid to approach me. I have Saturn/Uranus opposite ASC, Venus square ASC and Chiron conjunct ASC. IP: Logged |
Nephthys Moderator Posts: 665 From: California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2010 12:59 PM
At one of my jobs, I worked there for 4 years. There was a girl who went to work there after me. She never met me in person but for 1 year they talked about me there. THEN she came to work at my next job, that I was working at. When she met me in person, her eyes bulged out, she smiled, laughed and said, "OHMYGOD!!! YOU ARE NOT WHAT I EXPECTED AT ALL!!!! NOT AT ALL!!!! I heard about you for 1 year, and you are sooo different than I expected!" And I laughed. I'm like, one year, huh? That's pretty ridiculous that they couldn't stop talking about me for 1 year. She said, "oh, they didn't say anything bad, they just always talked about you." Gossip = poison IP: Logged |
Unmoved Moderator Posts: 1816 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 26, 2010 01:20 PM
I am often called snobbish and stand-offish, but only by... yes... only by people who don't know me. This is why:-I don't smile for no reason. I smile when there is a feeling inside of me that inspires a smile. -I don't laugh at things that don't amuse me. -I don't talk for no reason either. -I'm slightly reserved so I will observe new people before I engage with them. I do this not only for my own protection but also to make sure that I communicate in the best way with that person. -I will question someone if I hear that they are speaking meringue (hot air) lies, or incorrect info. -I always ask for clarification when I don't understand which usually exposes some people for phonies. -I also get bored easily by mainstream conversations, so I will usually be quiet when people talk about their jobs, crushes, their money, or how fabulous they are. I don't mind touching on these subjects, but not for too long. Maybe I am a snob, if a snob is someone who is reserved, not pretentious, careful and interested in esoteric/fringe subjects. Astro: As Glaucus has said, I have a strong transneptunian influence, which I assume would make me "rebellious" against the mainstream, that including smiling, laughing and being fake because it is expected in order to present myself favourably to others. Basically, I always say that those who stick around and get to know me are only those with an eye to see beyond first impressions. Of course, I can shmooze, but it gets more difficult the more I live. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 1090 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 26, 2010 02:14 PM
Yeah, and thats because I rarely ever smile or be openly expressive. What do I say to that? Sorry but I'm a Capricorn Rising and I believe good fences make good neighbors? Its annoying when you have to justify yourself to complete strangers. I'm just reserved, sorry. IP: Logged |
jupitersgirl Knowflake Posts: 81 From: Registered: Oct 2009
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posted August 26, 2010 03:05 PM
I've been often told things like that but when people get to know me it's surprising for them to see that I'm actually quite the opposite. I blame it on my cancer ascendant. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 3562 From: Pluto/Mars/Anywhere where someone is fighting mad Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 26, 2010 03:12 PM
I think snobbery is usually fear when it is true snobbery. It is fear that you are NOT OK. Ami
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jupitersgirl Knowflake Posts: 81 From: Registered: Oct 2009
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posted August 26, 2010 03:17 PM
I think so Ami.IP: Logged |
Herz_Aus_Stein Knowflake Posts: 17 From: Aries</3Cap Registered: May 2009
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posted August 26, 2010 05:23 PM
not really 'snobby' but some people thought i was autistic because i don't seem to be capable of showing emotions, and am wary of strangers. i think Cap rising fits me perfectly but i'm not autistic lol....------------------ happy introvert IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 4398 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2010 05:56 PM
Many people with autistic spectrum can show too much emotion, especially if they are in emotional meltdown. They tend to be ultrasensitive people, viewed as having sensory integration issues, getting overwhelmed by sensory input in their environment. I have read autistic spectrum people describing their feelings as very intense, feeling too much. "Autistic children usually display intense emotions. Mrs Pillay is a mother whose 5-year-old son, Somesh, has been diagnosed with mild autism. "Even though it's just mild autism, he is extremely sensitive and cries over nothing at times. He is in normal day care but when these episodes take place, he has to be separated until he calms down. Sometimes he stares into oblivion for hours," explains Mrs Pillay about Somesh." http://ezinearticles.com/?Autism---Handling-an-Autistic-Child&id=1603621
Many autistic spectrum get treated with antipsychotic medications like Risperdal to treat problems with irritability and aggression. sensory integration issues are said to be common in people with with neurodivergence in general, especially ADHD and Autistic Spectrum.
"While research indicates that sensory integrative problems are found in up to 70% of children who are considered learning disabled by schools, the problems of sensory integration are not confined to children with learning disabilities. SID transfers through all age groups, as well as intellectual levels and socioeconomic groups. Factors that contribute to SID include: premature birth; autism and other developmental disorders; learning disabilities; delinquency and substance abuse due to learning disabilities; stress-related disorders; and brain injury. Two of the biggest contributing conditions are autism and attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)." http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Sensory+integration+disorder
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mcmlxix Knowflake Posts: 32 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted August 26, 2010 08:40 PM
I have a certain amount of grandiosity to me at times:Venus in Leo Mercury, Jupiter, and Uranus all conjunct one another Sun and Pluto in the 1st house Some in my family call me The Barron, which really tees me off, because they're all quite stuck up. Maybe it's their projection defense mechanism kicking in. Also I can be a bit aloof, reticent, shy with people I don't know...Virgo Sun with Cancer Moon. People who don't know me might interpret that as snobby. Why do some people expect/demand everyone they come across to be a cheerleader or open book?! My default facial expression (I think) is neutral. I can have extreme poker face. Others interpret that as mad or sad, and nothing makes me happier (yes I'm being sarcastic...there really should be an emoticon for that) than people I don't know coming up to me and saying, "What's wrong". The implication is that there's something wrong "with me". I think they're intimidated (even if they think they're being concerned) because they can't read me. With people I know however, you can't shut me up, stop me from laughing, grinning from ear to ear, gesturing wildly, etc. There's that Mars in Sag. Shy grandiosity can make for an interesting paradox.
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Unmoved Moderator Posts: 1816 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 26, 2010 08:50 PM
mcmlxix - is your username your year of birth?I'm also a Virgo Sun with Cancer Moon. I agree, by the way, that those who call other's snobbish are usually intimidated by the person (but not always as there must be real snobs out there). IP: Logged |
mcmlxix Knowflake Posts: 32 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted August 26, 2010 09:00 PM
Yes 1969."I also get bored easily by mainstream conversations..." YES, but more than this. I have a hard time tracking conversation containing too many people. It all becomes noise to me, and I go into a zone. IP: Logged |
dinobleue Knowflake Posts: 124 From: Arizona, USA Registered: May 2009
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posted August 27, 2010 12:10 AM
I have been told I am snobby and/or stuck-up quite often. I have Cancer Moon and Rising. I've been told I am hard to approach and aloof. I think I can just be very shy...and once I warm up I am very open and friendly and chatty.I also have an 8th House Sun which I think makes me avoid small-talk bullsh!t... IP: Logged |
dinobleue Knowflake Posts: 124 From: Arizona, USA Registered: May 2009
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posted August 27, 2010 12:16 AM
Also, I HATE when people I don't know tell me I need to smile when I have a blank expression on my face. Am I supposed to walk around grinning like an idiot 24/7?!IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 1542 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 27, 2010 01:53 AM
"which I think makes me avoid small-talk bullsh!t...""Also, I HATE when people I don't know tell me I need to smile when I have a blank expression on my face. Am I supposed to walk around grinning like an idiot 24/7?!" H8 Sun here, too, and I completely agree. IP: Logged |
swirl-kitt Knowflake Posts: 181 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 27, 2010 05:46 AM
I sometimes attract people who think I'm a snob (and they like that) but after a while they realize I'm just not a serious person at all, just very goofy, and I think they get a little disappointed, lol. So I know what it feels like to look like a SNOB.I have cancer asc as well. I have so little energy on some days I just can't waste it by socializing or smiling or talking too much. Personally, I don't care what people think of me. I used to care about 'my image' when I was younger and would try to look cool. In fact I was a bit shy. I just care about making people around me feel good and loved. That's all that matters. IP: Logged |
belgz Knowflake Posts: 2054 From: Planet love :) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 27, 2010 07:19 AM
I don't think anyones ever said I'm snobbish before but my best friend olivia is very quiet and cold to people she doesn't know. It took me 2 years to get her to relax when we met ten years ago. She was always serious and didn't smile for noone. I happily laughed and smiled and put effort into making her r e l a x lol. She is very different now and jokes around but I see the same Olivia ten years ago when I introduce her to new people. She is a tenth house sun conjunct mars and mercury in aqua and a 12thhouse Pisces moon with an Aries ascendant. I on the other hand am very easy going and always smiling. I think I am too affectionate to be cold. When I meet new people I always aproach them with a smile and do my best to make them feel comfortable.. If I sense someone is uncomfortable or I don't know them well I concentrate on that person till I feel a mutual comfort zone. I have Saturn conjunct Pluto in first. IP: Logged |
jupitersgirl Knowflake Posts: 81 From: Registered: Oct 2009
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posted August 27, 2010 07:42 AM
I also have saturn in the 5th house trine ascendant.IP: Logged |
belgz Knowflake Posts: 2054 From: Planet love :) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 27, 2010 10:09 AM
Olivia has Saturn in fifth tooIP: Logged |
nigel Knowflake Posts: 35 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 27, 2010 10:17 AM
I've never been called snobby or stuck-up to my face, and the people who know me well would never think of me that way.However, I know how turn it off or on when I want to. For example, if I go dancing with friends I can put on the impression that I'm snobby so no one will talk to me. On the other hand, I can be super approachable when I put that wall down. Leo rising 5 planet stellium (Sun, Merc, Neptune, Saturn, Uranus )in 5th house opposing a Gemini Moon IP: Logged |
Herz_Aus_Stein Knowflake Posts: 17 From: Aries</3Cap Registered: May 2009
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posted August 27, 2010 03:08 PM
Glaucus, thanks for the interesting read (and links)! (i am actually capable of feeling emotions, just never like showing it in public.) ------------------ happy introvert ISTJ IP: Logged |