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Lyra
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posted September 12, 2010 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyra     Edit/Delete Message
I've found that certain people with Venus in Scorpio have always been jealous of me - my mother, various friends and now the guy I am seeing. This isn't necessarily sexual jealousy, it's more concerned with, I don't know, perhaps popularity or talent. It's total rubbish because even though I've had some moderate success (getting published etc.) this has come about through sheer hard work and determination on my part, simply getting down to business and putting the effort in.
I notice that these individuals try to put me down in various ways, either they NEVER come to things I invite them to (entirely self-centered), even though I make the effort for them - or, they put spanners in the works and/or badmouth me to other people (there's an idea here of "I can make or break you" - which is rubbish too, as everyone secretly knows WHAT THEY ARE) - or, they latch onto me in the hope that whatever "magic" it is I seem to have will rub off on them.
Yesterday I was speaking with my boyfriend on the phone and it was obvious he was screamingly jealous following an event we both did together, he could hardly contain himself as he felt that I was getting much more attention than him - I pointed out that it was simply because he didn't have any product to sell!
In all fairness he did help me to sell some product by organising the event and he demanded a cut of however much money it was I made, which I did agree to pay him. However he was also suggesting we enter a business agreement whereby he could sell my stuff and get commission, and I am really not comfortable with doing that as by his own admission he is "always looking round for people to sue". Hm. I said I would think about it. He was wanting to jump in with both feet and when I said I would think about it, got cheesed off and said he would only do the bare minimum in terms of promotion. Hm. Why do I get the feeling this guy is only in the relationship for what he feels he can get out of it? The thing is that I have been in business with people before (including with ex-spouse) and the way that I find works for me is doing things completely on my own, at least I don't have to deal with loads of aggro, and when running a business with people you will inevitably get aggro or people trying to screw you over, which I don't want!!!
My mother, a Sag with Venus in Scorp, is divorced from my father and has always been ridiculously jealous of me for all sorts of reasons, though she would never admit it. I am certain that she badmouths me to the rest of the family on a regular basis, as they always act very oddly whenever I try to communicate with them. This could just be lack of interest, but I know that she has ways of keeping people apart, as she would not want me (potentially) telling them what she had told me about them. My father still pays maintenance to her - he is still working at 70 and finding things very tough. She has not worked for 45 years, yet not really done anything in the home either. She came to London to see me precisely once in 5 years (which was when she needed to get her passport renewed) - when she had the opportunity to come up with my Dad recently, she just declined - their relationship broke up because she just never went anywhere with him and had problems socializing. I despair of my Dad as he just follows everything she says blindly - I think he is still in love with her pretty face and still cannot come to terms with the fact that she is a monster - but I think he is also somewhat resigned to the fact that she will never change.
The thing I notice about all these people is that a) they like to give advice, yet are rarely successful themselves (usually living on handouts from other people); b) they are lazy; c) they will never promote anyone else UNLESS there is something in it for them at the end of the day (ie reflected glory) and may even badmouth you whilst being a "yes-person" to your face; d) they are NARCISSISTS; e) they are terrified and frightened inside, mostly of themselves.
I know what you're all thinking and yes, I don't need anyone to tell me that I should give all these people short shrift and keep a safe distance. I do tend to attract these types time and time again and I have no idea why. (I'm an Aries/ Pisces type).
But does anyone else have problems with these guys' entirely self-centered attitude? Are there any other placements for jealousy/ narcissism?


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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted September 12, 2010 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
yes lyra i have noticed that, but in a very covert way, like you said, they want you to succeed, but not more than them. you have an interesting take on it.

jealous people are so easy to spot, they are the ones making little remarks to cut someone down.


i know someone with those placements that wants me to succeed, but when i get more attention than them, they get a bit snarky. i play music with a person with those placements, who is quite talented and this individual gets visably jealous when people yell and clap more for me, or tell me how good i am. i think though it's because it means more to them than it does to me...and always has.

i think love and understanding is required, unless someone becomes so jealous they turn back biting. that is just obvious.

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