posted September 15, 2010 01:51 PM
Pelion and Bienor are centaurs. They are not asteroids.
As centaurs, they would be social or social-generational objects compared to asteroids which are personal-social objects.
outerplanets and transneptunian objects are generational objects including especially Sedna which is a multi-generational object
The following is from Philip Sedgwick:
Centaurs: Cosmic High Horses
Centaurs are a unique group of bodies more or less part of the Kuiper Belt, a region of icy dust and asteroid-like bodies near the edge of our solar system. There may be hundreds of thousands of Kuiper Belt Objects. A smaller subset of this collection, Centaurs, by definition, must possess a perihelion distance greater than that of Jupiter and a semi-major axis that does not exceed Pluto's aphelion distance from the Sun (originally defined as a semi-major axis less than that of Neptune, but ignored as definition of the bodies continued).
Chiron: The wounded healer who possesses insight, wisdom and grace. Orbital Period: 50.27 yr.
Positive - healing, just, wise, fair, insightful, knowledgeable, skilled in arts, medicine, healing, philosophy, focused, positively full of one’s self, sense of soul’s purpose
Negative - opinionated, teaching others the lessons needed by oneself, wounding, corrupt, illicit, irritating demeanor, clinging, feeling homely or unwanted, estranged from parents
Mundane - healing of all types from allopathic medicine and surgery to chiropractic and all forms of homeopathy and naturopathy, soul retrieval, justice, mentoring programs, cave exploration, illegitimate offspring, archery
Ceremonial - soul retrieval, any natural healing modality, chiropractors, retreats - especially in caves, ceremonial chambers or kivas, making a talking stick or ceremonial arrow
Pholus: Keeper of the sacred wine and host to Hercules. Orbital Period: 91.95 yr.
Positive - just, wise, nurturing, meeting the needs of others while keeping own needs in balance, conscious of choice, ceremonial, pacifism, self nurturing, attentive
Negative - opinionated believing rules of cosmic forces do not apply to oneself, addicted to food or alcohol, careless regarding weaponry (or security tools), ignoring spiritual needs, indulgent, reclusive, meddling
Mundane - food and drink - especially regarding celebrations, daily ceremony and ritual
Ceremonial - toasting, blessings and grace, celebrations, creating a daily hour of power
Nessus: Ferryman at the River Evenus. Orbital Period: 120.76 yr.
Positive - generous, benevolent, compassionate, willing to lend a helping hand, cooperative, respectful of boundaries, aware of the power of life force energy, healthy use of sexual energy
Negative - coveting, possessive, jealous, vengeful, manipulative, resorting to negative alchemy for personal gain, negative use of sexual energy
Mundane - bad blood between parties, feuds over money especially regarding relationship dissolution, diseases transmitted by blood, transport ferries over water, potions, tonics and elixirs designed to cast spells, therapy specifically designed for healing sexual or monetary issues
Ceremonial - prosperity ceremonies, sexual healing rituals, ceremonies involving Earth fertility
Asbolus: An intuitive Auger. Orbital Period: 75.78 yr.
Positive - intrepid, courageous, leading the charge, motivated to reach the top, intuitive, wise, common sense insightful, solid advice
Negative - lack of sensibility, blind action, failing to follow instincts, intuitions, omens or sensors, easily intoxicated, unable to receive advice from self or others
Mundane - common sense, intuitive forces, mountain climbing - specifically in the face of obvious danger, risk taking especially under the influence, abstract logic, extreme sense of smell
Ceremonial - meditation, visualization of tasks before setting to action, climbing to reclaim a sense of nature
Chariklo: (Female) Consort to Athena and healing assistant to Vesta in the temples. Orbital Period: 63.05 yr.
Positive - boundary sensitive, wise, just, non-assumptive especially regarding personal relationship, interrogative about touchy or delicate issues
Negative - judgmental, feeling of being victimized at a glance, assumptive, intolerant, biased by gender archetypes
Mundane - swimming in the nude, eyesight, hearing, flirting, sexual harassment, motivation oriented
Ceremonial - a see no evil, hear no evil scenario, energetic healing, work to clear intent and motive
Hylonome: (Female) Grief stricken at the loss of her mate in battle. Orbital Period: 125.25 yr.
Positive - relationship devotion, sense of self with or without relationship, accommodating
Negative - grief stricken, co dependent, sacrificial, self esteem based upon relationship, self destructive in the face of relational difficulty
Mundane - grief counseling, bereavement work, relationship healing
Ceremonial - bonding ceremonies between couples, cathartic emotional relief regarding lost love, lost money or missed career opportunities
Pelion: Self-confidence for effort and the climb to accomplishment in life. Sacred Space, professional status, gratitude and sense of destiny. Orbital Period: 89.05 yr.
Positive - driven by dharma, balanced ego in professional status, giving, nurturing and sharing with co-workers with an extraordinary generosity.
Negative - Demanding, infantile in work relationships, flaunts social status as a result of accomplishments, showcases with past laurels
Mundane - job recognition, awards and accolades, merits, medals and certificates
Ceremonial - rites of passage, passing of baton, graduation ceremonies into higher spiritual orders
Elatus: Expression of self and ego through word and writing. Orbital Period: 42.16 yr.
Positive - Excellent communication, articulate, precise.
Negative - Verbose, boastful, shallow in conversation.
Mundane - creative writing, affirmations, self improvement courses, poetry
Ceremonial - reciting affirmations, chanting, writing spiritual treatises, ceremonial magic
Thereus: Relational and professional attitudes based upon others. I am what I am in this relationship because of my career status or the ornamentation of this relationship. Orbital Period: 34.63 yr.
Positive - Balance between relationship and work, money and sexuality.
Negative - Object oriented, status seeking, mercenary in work ethics, stunned by glamour and beauty of partner
Mundane - resumes, bios, promotional photos that project an image, any status object whether relational or professional
Ceremonial - tandem energy exercises, hiking for spiritual purpose with a partner, sitting in audience with an enlightened person
Okyrhoe: Daughter of Chiron and Chariklo she promotes principles of discernment and conscious life skills. Orbital Period: 24.38 yr.
Positive - affirming, supporting, common sense based, acute logic skills, organized, detailed
Negative - critical, judgmental, whining or whingeing, prophecies of doom, using logic to find fault, works in perpetual worst case scenarios
Mundane - mental attitude programs, tapes and other repetitive tools for reminding the psyche of a healthy state of mind, failure analysis in technology, spreadsheets and lists - especially those geared at mental health, affirmations, mantras, chants
Ceremonial - chanting, affirming, drumming (establishes cadence), Om exercises, cleaning to promote godliness.
Cyllarus: A handsome, devoted centaur, he represents positive sensual expression, willingness to fully embrace life in the physical plane. Orbital Period: 134.48 yr.
Positive - artistic, soothing, tactile, healing, comforting
Negative - shut down, defensive, protected, lack of creative outlet
Mundane - any body healing including massage, rebirthing, Shiatsu and those involving physical contact, artistic work that comes from full expression, such as painting with the hands, musical skill, culinary ability
Ceremonial - water rituals that include coming back on shore upon completion, rebirthing, creating ceremonies that involve contact with earth elements and water simultaneously.
Bienor - This centaur offers a sense of creative spirit, belief in urge of the soul, confidence. His name means literally, “strong man.” Orbital Period: 66.81 yr.
Positive - creative, inspired, talented, motivated, burning with creative vigor
Negative - repressed, sullen, withdrawn, resentful that life does not respond and bestow rewards
Mundane - benefactors, creative sanctuaries, places of recognition (Halls of Fame, etc.), awards, grants and prizes for projects seeking funding support
Ceremonial - mediation upon the heart, Hatha yoga, meditation in general, creating while listening to or dancing with music, dance ceremonies
Amycus - The longer period of this centaur seeks longevity and notoriety. Orbital Period: 126.38 yr.
Positive - intuitive, questioning, insightful, progressive, determined, reliable
Negative - doubtful, skeptical, withdrawn, often late, unreliable, lacking resolve, insecure
Mundane - doctrines and policies designed to produce a result (policy manuals, creeds), any mechanical device that enables a shift in energy, for instance a clutch for shifting gears, monuments, commandments (as in carved in stone), pictographs and petroglyphs
Ceremonial - stretching, yogas that shift fixed structures, chiropractic sessions, watching storms as a mediation, drumming, descent into the underworld (use of caves or kivas)
Crantor - Emotional declaration stands out as the quest for Crantor, not actually a centaur, but killed by one. A bit of the "What did I every do to you?" syndrome applies. Orbital Period: 86.09 yr.
Positive - sensitive, emotional expressive, strong sense of emotional boundaries, nurturing and passionate
Negative - emotionally abuse, manipulative through feelings, projects guilt, shame and blame upon others, substance abuse
Mundane - acute sense of emotional motivations, cathartic therapies and the ability to lead them, comprehension of emotionally based traumas and phobic responses, grief counseling
Ceremonial - cathartic ceremony, Wailing Wall-like rituals, water cleansing rituals, baptisms, fervent declarations of faith, ceremonies of emotional renewal
Echeclus - The mental balance between the abstract and linear logic. Swift decision making criteria resulting in polarized good idea/bad idea scenarios. Orbital Period 35.24 years.
Positive - mentally integrating, solution oriented, non-judgmental, abstract, conceptual, will shift opinion when new information or consciousness prompts a new set of beliefs
Negative - critical, opinionated, twisted logic, rationalizing, able to justify anything
Mundane - abstract art, conceptual theories, spatial relations, forced decisions under time pressure, close calls, head injuries
Ceremonial - celebration of the coyote or trickster, meditation on time/space warps
No..I am not a Virgo.
Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group.